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| CTtpollard | good morning | 07:02 |
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| leon-anavi | morning | 08:11 |
| CTtpollard | hey leon-anavi | 08:11 |
| leon-anavi | hi CTtpollard how are you? | 08:12 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: not bad, back after the easter break | 08:12 |
| leon-anavi | :) | 08:12 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I hope your mailbox is not too full cause I sent a patch on Friday that adds meta-rust to bblayers.conf :) | 08:13 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: heh there is a lot to get through... but I've seen it | 08:13 |
| leon-anavi | yes, I guess so, it always a challenge to catch up with the emails after a holiday | 08:14 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: if we're adding the layers to layer conf (that will probably fix the error the CI server is having re not finding the cargo.bbclass) do you think it should be added to packagegroups to be built by default into the GDP? | 08:15 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, building cargo and rust will require extra time. It could be annoying for someone to wait them if he is not including RVI SOTA client or another Rust application in his GDP image. | 08:17 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: longer than qtwebkit? ;) | 08:17 |
| leon-anavi | :) | 08:17 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I'll push your patch to the ci branch, and then hunt for caffeine | 08:18 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I am not afraid neither of qtwebkit, nor of cargo and rust because I have experience with building Crosswalk as part of Tizen images :) | 08:18 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I'm not aware of it, but your comparison fills me with fear | 08:21 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: branch pushed again with the bblayers patch | 08:21 |
| leon-anavi | thanks | 08:21 |
| leon-anavi | I have a couple of patches for meta-genivi-demo in the queue but first I want to try them with the latest version of GDP on rpi2 | 08:22 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: yeh I've seen the discussion around the structuring there from chbae's raspi inclusions | 08:23 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, yes, I don't find it convenient this way. I would prefer it to be the same as for qemu and do add another layer for rpi specific stuff. | 08:25 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, what is your opinion on this topic? | 08:26 |
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| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I have suggested that the raspi branch could have a separate layer commited to it for raspi specifics, but chbae's implementation is also ok in my opinion | 08:32 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, what is the plan for long term? Are you planning to maintain a separate branch for each supported device? | 08:35 |
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| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I'm hoping to discuss some PoC work around switching to a single branch | 08:39 |
| CTtpollard | at the amm | 08:39 |
| CTtpollard | to make things easier to maintain | 08:40 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I agree. I think that Poky is an excellent example. | 08:42 |
| leon-anavi | In my opinion the easiest to use and maintain way will be a single branch for GDP + BSP layers and eventually additional layers to GDP if there is anything specific for a given platform | 08:44 |
| CTtpollard | agreed | 08:45 |
| CTtpollard | the creation of the gdp submodules repo was a first step into making it easier to create the build environment ( instead of having a readme with a list of repos and sha's and local/layers conf info) | 08:46 |
| CTtpollard | it's something I've been playing around with in spare time, but I don't have enough time to dedicate to it with the AMM so close | 08:50 |
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| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I think that having the same meta-genivi-demo layer for QEMU and rpi is a step in this direction. meta-raspberrypi-gdp should be kept separate | 09:38 |
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| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: having meta-raspberrypi-gdp (or another named dir) as a sub dir in meta-genivi-demo should not be an issue for qemu though | 09:51 |
| CTtpollard | well I know it doesn't have an issue | 09:51 |
| leon-anavi | sure, it is not a problem | 10:17 |
| leon-anavi | according to me, one way or another, it will be convenient to have the same structure of meta-genivi-demo for all targeted devices. | 10:18 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: yes that's the aim, chbae is using a branch in meta-genivi-demo for the restructure. The plan is to merge it so all targets continue to use the same | 10:20 |
| CTtpollard | sorry if I'm misunderstanding your point | 10:20 |
| leon-anavi | ok, we are on the same track :) | 10:29 |
| CTtpollard | so meta-genivi-demo/meta-genivi-demo for common, meta-genivi-demo/$board/bsp for specific board stuff. | 10:33 |
| CTtpollard | where we can't use upstream of course | 10:33 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, so meta-genivi-demo is heading to option 4 from these options: http://lists.genivi.org/pipermail/genivi-projects/2016-March/001577.html right? | 10:33 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: without further objections, yes | 10:34 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, ok, very good | 10:34 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, why don't we adjust meta-genivi-demo branch qemu-ci to this structure right away? | 10:35 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: if you want to add a review for the restructure patch from chbae to the list, it will bring it closer to merging to master | 10:36 |
| CTtpollard | ah sorry slight problem their, the patch was too big for git email. I believe he provided an external github link to the diff | 10:37 |
| leon-anavi | I had a look at the whole discussion but it is quite long so I didn't read it carefully. | 10:37 |
| CTtpollard | yes, I'll try digging out the list | 10:38 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: here http://lists.genivi.org/pipermail/genivi-projects/2016-March/001646.html | 10:39 |
| CTtpollard | another instance of where gerrit would make things cleaner | 10:40 |
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| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, yes, Gerrit would make these reviews cleaner | 10:45 |
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| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I will write a short reply at the mailing list to note that I hope this will be merged in branch qemu-ci | 10:48 |
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| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: great | 10:56 |
| leon-anavi | According to the article for GDP on rpi2 branch chbae/raspberrypi should be used: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/Raspberry+Pi+2+%28RPi2%29+Hardware+Setup+and+Software+Installation | 10:59 |
| leon-anavi | I don't see such branch. There is chbae/raspberrypi2. Is this the right branch? | 10:59 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: good spot, yes 2 | 11:00 |
| leon-anavi | ok, I fixed the wiki | 11:01 |
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| CTtpollard | chbae: hi chbae | 11:15 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: Hello. | 11:15 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: I wonder that youtube in browser is played in other devices? | 11:24 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: I tested in raspberrypi2. It doesn’t work. | 11:24 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: yep, doesn't work | 11:25 |
| CTtpollard | no html5 support maybe | 11:25 |
| CTtpollard | I think there's an effort to get Chromium into the GDP | 11:25 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: Ah. ok :) | 11:26 |
| leon-anavi | hi chbae | 11:26 |
| chbae | hi leon-anavi | 11:35 |
| chbae | Anyone can follow up https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-149 issue? | 11:38 |
| leon-anavi | chbae, I still have follow-up tasks for RVI SOTA client. After that I can ask my bosses and eventually if allowed I can spend several hours working on the rpi2/3 ports. | 11:44 |
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| waltminer | AGL Dev Meeting in five minutes | 12:56 |
| chbae | leon-anavi: Thanks. :) | 12:59 |
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| waltminer | AGL dev meeting. Slight mixup in meeting time due to time change in Europe. | 13:07 |
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| waltminer | ALS Demo apps and Hardware | 13:12 |
| waltminer | Microchip will provide a two display MOST ring | 13:13 |
| waltminer | Video server running on Porter board providing connectivity to MOST | 13:13 |
| waltminer | Need schedule from Renesas for their Porter Expansion board | 13:14 |
| waltminer | Microchip also to provide video input from MOST in V4L2 | 13:15 |
| waltminer | Need a media player with video capability | 13:15 |
| waltminer | AM/FM Tuner app waiting on Audio manager updates | 13:17 |
| waltminer | Need a parts list for assembly (assuming we use bluetooth dongles and such rather than the Porter Expansion) and for displays | 13:19 |
| waltminer | Walt will put together an initial schedule for hw and sw development for the ALS demo | 13:22 |
| * JEEB wonders what would be the requirements licensing-wise for the video player | 13:23 | |
| waltminer | Chris pointed out that we will need to recompile the kernel for V4L with the correct settings | 13:26 |
| waltminer | Media player needs to be updated for video support | 13:30 |
| waltminer | Walt to contact Hitachi about navi updates | 13:31 |
| waltminer | Another option might be to use OpenStreetMaps and try to resue the JLR POC that was done for Tizen. | 13:36 |
| waltminer | AGL Call ended | 13:42 |
| waltminer | Thanks everyone | 13:42 |
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| leon-anavi | waltminer, are you referencing as another option the Maps application from JLR HTML5 app suite for Tizen? | 15:35 |
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| waltminer | Yes that was what was discussed | 15:36 |
| leon-anavi | ok, afair it was using Google Maps and actually it offered a very statical demo. Just an embedded Google map with 3-4 predefined routes. | 15:41 |
| JEEB | yeah | 15:43 |
| JEEB | I think it had some audio stuff too, which was nice when it was working with the policy management and audio stuff | 15:44 |
| JEEB | (so you got your music lowered and the navi sounds would pop up at the normal loudness) | 15:44 |
| leon-anavi | For sure it required Crosswalk which caused a lot of troubles for my case :) | 15:45 |
| JEEB | yeah | 15:45 |
| leon-anavi | at least for the particular version of Tizen which I was using. | 15:46 |
| JEEB | also getting crosswalk talk with the policy management was :eff: | 15:46 |
| JEEB | but it kind of worked in the end | 15:46 |
| leon-anavi | well... it was just a PoC after all. | 15:46 |
| JEEB | the ICO side had much stricter policy management (window management included), but it had some quite complex logic so it wasn't 100% perfect | 15:47 |
| JEEB | and it was an engineer UI :) | 15:47 |
| leon-anavi | :) | 15:51 |
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| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I sent a patch that applied chbae recommendations for improvements of the RVI SOTA client recipe. | 16:04 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, soon I will send another patch that updates RVI SOTA client but before that I am waiting for a couple of patches to be merged in the upstream of RVI SOTA client in ATS repo in GitHub: https://github.com/advancedtelematic/rvi_sota_client/pull/47 | 16:05 |
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| AlisonChaiken | Anyone out there in AGL land using a Cortex-R as a system controller? | 22:44 |
| AlisonChaiken | I know that V850 is King of the Hill, but the Grownups are concerned about ASIL levels and suchlike. | 22:45 |
| AlisonChaiken | It seems like Cortex-R in general is scarce, and automotive-grade Cortex-R is as likely as Loch Ness monster and Bigfoot. | 22:46 |
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| rokrau | wonder if anyone is around that's working on the various issues of GDP-9 on RPi hardware or in general, e.g. touch not working properly | 23:16 |
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| rokrau | just adding evtest to my image to see what I can find out about touch support | 23:34 |
| radiofree | rokrau: i think CTtpollard was working on that | 23:35 |
| radiofree | as far as I remember there's some additional things you now have to set in the udev rule | 23:35 |
| rokrau | yeah - i read his comment | 23:35 |
| rokrau | well that i don't quiet get yet | 23:35 |
| rokrau | mod the udev rule to get teh device recognized as a touch screen and then it will actually work? | 23:36 |
| radiofree | rokrau: https://irclogs.baserock.org/automotive/%23automotive.2016-03-22.log.html#t2016-03-22T15:58:21 | 23:36 |
| radiofree | well i'm not sure if it fully "works" yet, however it "works" in the sense weston recognises it | 23:37 |
| radiofree | i think it would be useful to test this outside of ivi-shell | 23:38 |
| radiofree | i.e desktop-shell, "weston-simple-touch" (or whatever it's called) | 23:41 |
| radiofree | then launch weston-simple-touch in ivi-shell/ivi-extension, set the relevant input flags, and test there | 23:42 |
| rokrau | I assume this wasn't submitted as a patch yet? | 23:43 |
| rokrau | weston-simple-touch segfaults immediately last I tried | 23:44 |
| radiofree | wonderful.. | 23:44 |
| radiofree | was that within desktop-shell? | 23:44 |
| rokrau | within ivi-shel | 23:45 |
| rokrau | within ivi-shell | 23:45 |
| rokrau | i also don't know yet howto modify a udev rule to trace this | 23:46 |
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| radiofree | I can't remember what the bodge for the gdp is to start weston without ivi-shell, it's probably easier to add --ignore-config to the systemd unit that launches weston | 23:48 |
| radiofree | sorry, --no-config | 23:48 |
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| radiofree | it would be useful if we could ascertain whether or not this is an issue with upgrading weston/libinput or the upgrade to ivi-extension | 23:48 |
| rokrau | mod weston.ini? | 23:49 |
| radiofree | --no-config would work, you basically just want to say "don't use weston.ini" | 23:49 |
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| rokrau | okay - i assume that all gdp-hmi-* services will fail then too | 23:50 |
| radiofree | actually they do launch | 23:52 |
| radiofree | they just appear as a load of windows within weston | 23:52 |
| radiofree | (at least hte last time i tried any of this it did) | 23:52 |
| rokrau | oh okay | 23:53 |
| rokrau | creating image - will try in 5 mins | 23:53 |
| radiofree | after that modify /etc/udev/rules.d/whatevertheruleis | 23:54 |
| radiofree | add ENV{ID_INPUT_MOUSE}="0" and ENV{ID_INPUT_TOUCHSCREEN}="1" to your touch screen rule | 23:54 |
| radiofree | then I *think* the touchscreen should at least work in weston desktop-shell | 23:54 |
| rokrau | okay - | 23:55 |
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