IRC logs for #cip for Thursday, 2020-11-12

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masashi910#startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting09:00
brloggerMeeting started Thu Nov 12 09:00:00 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masashi910. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
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brloggerThe meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting'09:00
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masashi910#topic rollcall09:00
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masashi910please say hi if you're around09:00
pave1hi09:00
iwamatsuhi09:00
wenshi09:00
patersonchi09:00
ebardiehi09:00
yoshidak[m]hi09:00
masashi910Let's get started.09:00
masashi910#topic AI review09:00
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masashi9101. Combine root filesystem with kselftest binary - iwamatsu09:00
iwamatsuI dont have a upodate about it.09:01
masashi910iwamatsu: Noted. Thanks.09:01
masashi9102. Check whether CVE-2019-0145, CVE-2019-0147, CVE-2019-0148 needs to be backported to 4.4 - Kernel Team09:01
masashi910Based on the discussion last week, I sent out an email to cip-dev saying that we are ignoring these patches.09:01
masashi910Ben-san responded as follows.09:01
masashi910https://lore.kernel.org/cip-dev/9c52fda6f710d3aad6fd9f781b33c4034dee4d10.camel@codethink.co.uk/T/#t09:01
masashi910Iwamatsu-san prepared some patches to be reviewed by contributors from Intel.09:02
masashi910iwamatsu: Thanks for your work. Could you proceed to ask them for patch reviews?09:02
iwamatsuI dont have a upodate about it.09:02
iwamatsuOK09:02
iwamatsuoh sorry.09:03
masashi910iwamatsu: Let me confirm. Is it OK for you to proceed your patches? As a first step is it to ask Intel contributors for their review?09:05
iwamatsumasashi910: I will send patches with RFC.09:06
masashi910iwamatsu: Thanks very much! Then, I will keep this AI open for a while. Thanks!09:06
masashi910Any other topics?09:06
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masashi910#topic Kernel maintenance updates09:07
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pave1I have reviewed patches queued for 4.19.156.09:07
iwamatsuI reviewed 4.4.243 and 244-rc09:08
wensI already sent out report to ML, but to summarize: 4 new issues this week, nothing needs to be done as far as CIP is concerned09:08
masashi910pave1, iwamatsu, wens: Thanks for your works!09:08
wensiwamatsu: we could consider removing SUNKBD from 4.4.y-cip-rt/x86/siemens_i386-rt.config. I doubt anyone is really using this.09:08
wensthis hardware is 20+ years old.09:09
iwamatsuwens: I see. I will ask about this to Siemens.09:09
iwamatsuhaha09:10
wensthat's all from me09:10
pave1Agreed. It would be nice if Siemens cleaned up their config. It seems they simply neabled everything.09:10
pave1enabled.09:10
masashi910wens, iwamatsu, pave1: Thanks. Hmmm.09:11
patersoncpave1: It's a bit hard to predict what future customers would want supported though?09:11
pave1patersonc: Well... Noone uses Sun keyboard. Certainly noone uses it for embedded project.09:12
pave1Kernel has drivers for a lots of obsolete hardware.09:12
patersoncheh fair enough ;)09:12
masashi910Any other topics?09:12
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masashi910#topic Kernel testing09:13
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patersoncNot a huge amount from me (as usual)09:13
patersoncTristan from Codethink has offered to help me out, which is great :)09:14
patersoncSo hopefully there will be some more movement in the coming weeks09:14
patersoncIs anyone having any issues with the test infrastructure?09:14
patersoncAny new requirements?09:14
pave1patersonc: Well.. :-)09:15
pave1Having green ticks for just the situation where the tests passed would be nice.09:15
pave1As would be really starting realtime tests, including failures when latencies grow over 150usec on Altera board.09:15
patersoncYea. However I plan to use a KernelCI instance for that09:15
pave1:-)09:15
pave1Oh, btw.09:16
pave1In future -rt team should start publishing prerelease versions of the -rt patches in git somewhere.09:17
pave1It would be very good to test them, in a same way we test -stable.09:17
patersoncSure09:17
patersoncLet me know when they start09:18
pave1I hope they let me know :-). But yes, I believe I'll learn, eventually.09:18
masashi910patersonc: That's great that Tristan-san joined to work on testing! Also, thanks for your works.09:19
masashi910any other topics?09:19
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masashi910#topic CIP Security09:19
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yoshidak[m]1. Development process requirements09:20
yoshidak[m]Requests to each working group regarding the development process are currently being summarized at SWG weekly meeting.09:20
yoshidak[m]In some cases, a few questions have already been asked individually, but we will set up a meeting after completed to summarize, so please wait for a while.09:21
yoshidak[m]2. Security features gap assessment09:21
yoshidak[m]No update today, because the review meeting w/ Exida that originally planned at the last Friday was skipped to this week.09:21
yoshidak[m]That's all from me.09:21
masashi910yoshidak[m]: Thanks for your works!09:22
masashi910any queries?09:22
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masashi910#topic AOB09:22
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masashi910Are there any business to discuss?09:22
masashi910If there are no topics, then, let's close the meeting.09:23
masashi910#endmeeting09:23
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masashi910Thank you, and stay safe!09:24
pave1Thank you!09:24
iwamatsuThank you!09:24
wensThank you!09:24
yoshidak[m]Thank you!09:24
patersoncpave1: https://gitlab.com/cip-project/cip-testing/linux-cip-ci/-/issues/41  Feel free to expand if/when you know more. Thanks!09:24
wensregarding ancient hardware, I recently saw a post about someone digging out an actual working TTY from a junkyard09:24
wensthen having to cobble up a Raspberry Pi and a whole other bunch of parts to actually test it and use it to browse the web09:25
pave1wens: Yes, I mean... lot of people are preserving ancient hardware now.09:26
pave1wens: But if siemens steals Sunkbd from museum and uses it with their embedded system, we can laugh at them :-).09:26
wenslol09:27
ebardieI've had an old Sparc box lying aorund in my home office for the past fifteen years. Not that it's been switched on in sixteen years :)09:28
masashi910Still working!09:29
ebardieUnproven09:30
pave1ebardie: It is still cool hardware :-)09:30
pave1I have pentium MMX notebook somewhere. Likely can still boot Linux :-)09:31
wensuntil distros start moving to i686 lol09:32
pave1Yeah, distro is likely to be bigger problem than kernel. Other machine has Geode CPU, and that's too bad :-(.09:34
ebardieTurns out that I have *most* of a Sun keyboard (we won't talk about keyboard hygiene standards). That mouse!  https://flic.kr/p/2k5KzYh09:43
pave1:-). You also need special pad for that mouse.09:46
ebardieYes! That'll be several strata down in the corner of doom IIRC09:48
pave1Good! And it is great that mainline still supports that hardware, but please don't try to connect it to any of the -cip machines.09:52
ebardieheh09:52
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tlater[m]o/15:04
tlater[m]I'm Tristan by the way :)15:04
tlater[m]Sorry, I didn't realize there was a meeting at 9 am15:04
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patersoncHi tlater :)15:35
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sudipHi All15:57
patersoncHi15:57
* sudip didn't expect helmut here15:58
* helmut is more of a silent observer here as there is theoretical overlap with debian bootstrapping that didn't turn out practical thus far16:48
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