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| masashi910 | #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting | 09:00 |
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| brlogger | Meeting started Thu Nov 12 09:00:00 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masashi910. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| brlogger | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| brlogger | The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' | 09:00 |
| *** brlogger changes topic to " (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 09:00 | |
| masashi910 | #topic rollcall | 09:00 |
| *** brlogger changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 09:00 | |
| masashi910 | please say hi if you're around | 09:00 |
| pave1 | hi | 09:00 |
| iwamatsu | hi | 09:00 |
| wens | hi | 09:00 |
| patersonc | hi | 09:00 |
| ebardie | hi | 09:00 |
| yoshidak[m] | hi | 09:00 |
| masashi910 | Let's get started. | 09:00 |
| masashi910 | #topic AI review | 09:00 |
| *** brlogger changes topic to "AI review (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 09:00 | |
| masashi910 | 1. Combine root filesystem with kselftest binary - iwamatsu | 09:00 |
| iwamatsu | I dont have a upodate about it. | 09:01 |
| masashi910 | iwamatsu: Noted. Thanks. | 09:01 |
| masashi910 | 2. Check whether CVE-2019-0145, CVE-2019-0147, CVE-2019-0148 needs to be backported to 4.4 - Kernel Team | 09:01 |
| masashi910 | Based on the discussion last week, I sent out an email to cip-dev saying that we are ignoring these patches. | 09:01 |
| masashi910 | Ben-san responded as follows. | 09:01 |
| masashi910 | https://lore.kernel.org/cip-dev/9c52fda6f710d3aad6fd9f781b33c4034dee4d10.camel@codethink.co.uk/T/#t | 09:01 |
| masashi910 | Iwamatsu-san prepared some patches to be reviewed by contributors from Intel. | 09:02 |
| masashi910 | iwamatsu: Thanks for your work. Could you proceed to ask them for patch reviews? | 09:02 |
| iwamatsu | I dont have a upodate about it. | 09:02 |
| iwamatsu | OK | 09:02 |
| iwamatsu | oh sorry. | 09:03 |
| masashi910 | iwamatsu: Let me confirm. Is it OK for you to proceed your patches? As a first step is it to ask Intel contributors for their review? | 09:05 |
| iwamatsu | masashi910: I will send patches with RFC. | 09:06 |
| masashi910 | iwamatsu: Thanks very much! Then, I will keep this AI open for a while. Thanks! | 09:06 |
| masashi910 | Any other topics? | 09:06 |
| masashi910 | 3 | 09:07 |
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| masashi910 | #topic Kernel maintenance updates | 09:07 |
| *** brlogger changes topic to "Kernel maintenance updates (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 09:07 | |
| pave1 | I have reviewed patches queued for 4.19.156. | 09:07 |
| iwamatsu | I reviewed 4.4.243 and 244-rc | 09:08 |
| wens | I already sent out report to ML, but to summarize: 4 new issues this week, nothing needs to be done as far as CIP is concerned | 09:08 |
| masashi910 | pave1, iwamatsu, wens: Thanks for your works! | 09:08 |
| wens | iwamatsu: we could consider removing SUNKBD from 4.4.y-cip-rt/x86/siemens_i386-rt.config. I doubt anyone is really using this. | 09:08 |
| wens | this hardware is 20+ years old. | 09:09 |
| iwamatsu | wens: I see. I will ask about this to Siemens. | 09:09 |
| iwamatsu | haha | 09:10 |
| wens | that's all from me | 09:10 |
| pave1 | Agreed. It would be nice if Siemens cleaned up their config. It seems they simply neabled everything. | 09:10 |
| pave1 | enabled. | 09:10 |
| masashi910 | wens, iwamatsu, pave1: Thanks. Hmmm. | 09:11 |
| patersonc | pave1: It's a bit hard to predict what future customers would want supported though? | 09:11 |
| pave1 | patersonc: Well... Noone uses Sun keyboard. Certainly noone uses it for embedded project. | 09:12 |
| pave1 | Kernel has drivers for a lots of obsolete hardware. | 09:12 |
| patersonc | heh fair enough ;) | 09:12 |
| masashi910 | Any other topics? | 09:12 |
| masashi910 | 3 | 09:13 |
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| masashi910 | #topic Kernel testing | 09:13 |
| *** brlogger changes topic to "Kernel testing (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 09:13 | |
| patersonc | Not a huge amount from me (as usual) | 09:13 |
| patersonc | Tristan from Codethink has offered to help me out, which is great :) | 09:14 |
| patersonc | So hopefully there will be some more movement in the coming weeks | 09:14 |
| patersonc | Is anyone having any issues with the test infrastructure? | 09:14 |
| patersonc | Any new requirements? | 09:14 |
| pave1 | patersonc: Well.. :-) | 09:15 |
| pave1 | Having green ticks for just the situation where the tests passed would be nice. | 09:15 |
| pave1 | As would be really starting realtime tests, including failures when latencies grow over 150usec on Altera board. | 09:15 |
| patersonc | Yea. However I plan to use a KernelCI instance for that | 09:15 |
| pave1 | :-) | 09:15 |
| pave1 | Oh, btw. | 09:16 |
| pave1 | In future -rt team should start publishing prerelease versions of the -rt patches in git somewhere. | 09:17 |
| pave1 | It would be very good to test them, in a same way we test -stable. | 09:17 |
| patersonc | Sure | 09:17 |
| patersonc | Let me know when they start | 09:18 |
| pave1 | I hope they let me know :-). But yes, I believe I'll learn, eventually. | 09:18 |
| masashi910 | patersonc: That's great that Tristan-san joined to work on testing! Also, thanks for your works. | 09:19 |
| masashi910 | any other topics? | 09:19 |
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| masashi910 | #topic CIP Security | 09:19 |
| *** brlogger changes topic to "CIP Security (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 09:19 | |
| yoshidak[m] | 1. Development process requirements | 09:20 |
| yoshidak[m] | Requests to each working group regarding the development process are currently being summarized at SWG weekly meeting. | 09:20 |
| yoshidak[m] | In some cases, a few questions have already been asked individually, but we will set up a meeting after completed to summarize, so please wait for a while. | 09:21 |
| yoshidak[m] | 2. Security features gap assessment | 09:21 |
| yoshidak[m] | No update today, because the review meeting w/ Exida that originally planned at the last Friday was skipped to this week. | 09:21 |
| yoshidak[m] | That's all from me. | 09:21 |
| masashi910 | yoshidak[m]: Thanks for your works! | 09:22 |
| masashi910 | any queries? | 09:22 |
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| masashi910 | #topic AOB | 09:22 |
| *** brlogger changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 09:22 | |
| masashi910 | Are there any business to discuss? | 09:22 |
| masashi910 | If there are no topics, then, let's close the meeting. | 09:23 |
| masashi910 | #endmeeting | 09:23 |
| brlogger | Meeting ended Thu Nov 12 09:23:54 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:23 |
| brlogger | Minutes: https://irclogs.baserock.org/meetings/cip/2020/11/cip.2020-11-12-09.00.html | 09:23 |
| brlogger | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.baserock.org/meetings/cip/2020/11/cip.2020-11-12-09.00.txt | 09:23 |
| brlogger | Log: https://irclogs.baserock.org/meetings/cip/2020/11/cip.2020-11-12-09.00.log.html | 09:23 |
| *** brlogger changes topic to "Civil Infrastructure Platform Project. Find the logs at https://irclogs.baserock.org/cip/" | 09:23 | |
| masashi910 | Thank you, and stay safe! | 09:24 |
| pave1 | Thank you! | 09:24 |
| iwamatsu | Thank you! | 09:24 |
| wens | Thank you! | 09:24 |
| yoshidak[m] | Thank you! | 09:24 |
| patersonc | pave1: https://gitlab.com/cip-project/cip-testing/linux-cip-ci/-/issues/41 Feel free to expand if/when you know more. Thanks! | 09:24 |
| wens | regarding ancient hardware, I recently saw a post about someone digging out an actual working TTY from a junkyard | 09:24 |
| wens | then having to cobble up a Raspberry Pi and a whole other bunch of parts to actually test it and use it to browse the web | 09:25 |
| pave1 | wens: Yes, I mean... lot of people are preserving ancient hardware now. | 09:26 |
| pave1 | wens: But if siemens steals Sunkbd from museum and uses it with their embedded system, we can laugh at them :-). | 09:26 |
| wens | lol | 09:27 |
| ebardie | I've had an old Sparc box lying aorund in my home office for the past fifteen years. Not that it's been switched on in sixteen years :) | 09:28 |
| masashi910 | Still working! | 09:29 |
| ebardie | Unproven | 09:30 |
| pave1 | ebardie: It is still cool hardware :-) | 09:30 |
| pave1 | I have pentium MMX notebook somewhere. Likely can still boot Linux :-) | 09:31 |
| wens | until distros start moving to i686 lol | 09:32 |
| pave1 | Yeah, distro is likely to be bigger problem than kernel. Other machine has Geode CPU, and that's too bad :-(. | 09:34 |
| ebardie | Turns out that I have *most* of a Sun keyboard (we won't talk about keyboard hygiene standards). That mouse! https://flic.kr/p/2k5KzYh | 09:43 |
| pave1 | :-). You also need special pad for that mouse. | 09:46 |
| ebardie | Yes! That'll be several strata down in the corner of doom IIRC | 09:48 |
| pave1 | Good! And it is great that mainline still supports that hardware, but please don't try to connect it to any of the -cip machines. | 09:52 |
| ebardie | heh | 09:52 |
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| tlater[m] | o/ | 15:04 |
| tlater[m] | I'm Tristan by the way :) | 15:04 |
| tlater[m] | Sorry, I didn't realize there was a meeting at 9 am | 15:04 |
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| patersonc | Hi tlater :) | 15:35 |
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| sudip | Hi All | 15:57 |
| patersonc | Hi | 15:57 |
| * sudip didn't expect helmut here | 15:58 | |
| * helmut is more of a silent observer here as there is theoretical overlap with debian bootstrapping that didn't turn out practical thus far | 16:48 | |
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