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| leon-anavi | morning | 07:06 |
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| jobol | morning leon | 07:09 |
| jobol | how are you this morning? | 07:09 |
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| leon-anavi | jobol, good, how are you? | 07:25 |
| jobol | good to even if my skin became a little bit red this week-end | 07:26 |
| leon-anavi | are you enjoying a good weather in Bretagne? | 07:28 |
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| [AD]Turbo | hi there | 07:35 |
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| leon-anavi | hi [AD]Turbo | 07:36 |
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| voltbit | hello, I managed to build the latest chinook yesterday but I dont how to run it (I am not proficient with yocto), here is what I get: | 07:43 |
| voltbit | https://gist.github.com/VoltBit/865634f184b56559a0152e2e04e2d7d4 | 07:43 |
| voltbit | btw I had a problem with mediaplayer not compiling, I had to add some libraries to that package, hope that doesent matter | 07:44 |
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| akilaw | hi all | 08:36 |
| dl9pf | voltbit: runqemu qemux86-64 | 08:38 |
| akilaw | https://github.com/ostroproject/meta-iot-web/blob/1cd4254c97e3817cc617e2c1d75c9a57e5b0f8d5/recipes-web/iotivity-node/iotivity-node_1.2.0-2.bb | 08:38 |
| akilaw | this recipe | 08:38 |
| dl9pf | voltbit: what did you have to do with mediaplayer and libs ? | 08:38 |
| akilaw | where does do_compile function adding files | 08:39 |
| dl9pf | do_compile is a bitbake function | 08:40 |
| dl9pf | the recipe redefines it for node | 08:41 |
| voltbit | dl9pf: I tried that as well, I updated the gist, it give the same output | 08:41 |
| dl9pf | akilaw: what's your problem with the recipe ? | 08:41 |
| akilaw | hi dl9pf | 08:41 |
| voltbit | dl9pf: as for the mediaplayer, I manually added this libraries to the packages folder | 08:42 |
| voltbit | https://github.com/profusion/lightmediascanner/tree/master/src/lib | 08:42 |
| dl9pf | voltbit: then try and use: runqemu <tmp/deploy/images/...path/to/qemuboot.conf> | 08:42 |
| voltbit | the compile passed, it was complaining about not find a library lightmediascanner.h | 08:42 |
| akilaw | I want to write recipe for setup zebra https://github.com/barmalei/zebkit | 08:42 |
| dl9pf | voltbit: you should be able to add DEPENDS += "lightmediascanner" to the mediaplayer recipe | 08:43 |
| akilaw | for that i'm refering this https://github.com/ostroproject/meta-iot-web/blob/1cd4254c97e3817cc617e2c1d75c9a57e5b0f8d5/recipes-web/iotivity-node/iotivity-node_1.2.0-2.bb | 08:43 |
| RzR | hi | 08:45 |
| akilaw | hi RzR | 08:45 |
| akilaw | I need help with writing the recipe | 08:45 |
| RzR | do you need support for this brillant technology ? | 08:45 |
| RzR | hehe | 08:45 |
| akilaw | yeahh | 08:45 |
| akilaw | :-) | 08:45 |
| RzR | it builds on genivi | 08:46 |
| dl9pf | well, then there's a recipe to look at ;) | 08:46 |
| RzR | I know that , got troubles ? | 08:46 |
| RzR | also agl | 08:46 |
| RzR | but you need to add layer | 08:46 |
| akilaw | do i need to add a layer? | 08:46 |
| RzR | It was rejected for security concerns (npm) | 08:46 |
| RzR | yes I have a patch for you | 08:47 |
| akilaw | here i wrote a recipe for zebra | 08:47 |
| akilaw | https://github.com/akilawickey/meta-genivi-dev/blob/master/meta-genivi-dev/recipes-zebra/zebra/zebra_1.0.0.bb | 08:47 |
| akilaw | then I | 08:47 |
| RzR | akilaw, https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/8685/ | 08:47 |
| akilaw | bitbake zebra | 08:47 |
| voltbit | dl9pf: thank you! it worked, I've read the manual for runqemu but dindn't realize it could receive a .conf file, I was convince I am only supposed to pass a zImage | 08:47 |
| RzR | ok you're working on gdp not agl ? | 08:47 |
| voltbit | the boot failed btw, it said AudioManager failed to start or something like that, I will as the dependecy as you said and try again | 08:48 |
| dl9pf | voltbit: newer runqemu was rewritten ... its a little picky since then. | 08:48 |
| RzR | akilaw, npm on install is not desired | 08:48 |
| akilaw | ok | 08:48 |
| RzR | you need to "convert" npm package to bitbake | 08:48 |
| akilaw | like iotivity-node_1.2.0-2.bb | 08:49 |
| RzR | that one might not the easiest | 08:49 |
| RzR | https://github.com/TizenTeam/meta-ocf-automotive/tree/sandbox/pcoval/on/master/devel/recipes-devtools/node-rest-client | 08:49 |
| RzR | I think I used a tool to generate that one ^ | 08:49 |
| RzR | # Recipe created by recipetool | 08:49 |
| akilaw | woooow | 08:50 |
| RzR | SRC_URI = "npm://registry.npmjs.org;name=node-rest-client;version=${PV}" | 08:50 |
| akilaw | really | 08:50 |
| RzR | see the idea ? | 08:50 |
| akilaw | so that one will convert npm package to bitbake right | 08:50 |
| akilaw | ? | 08:50 |
| RzR | yea | 08:50 |
| akilaw | cool | 08:50 |
| akilaw | So for zebra | 08:50 |
| akilaw | https://github.com/barmalei/zebkit | 08:50 |
| akilaw | how can I use that tool | 08:51 |
| voltbit | one more question, is the binary image for chinook from the link below supposed to work out of the box with latest QEMU/VirtualBox? | 08:54 |
| voltbit | https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro | 08:54 |
| voltbit | asking because I only get a black screen | 08:55 |
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| RzR | akilaw, is it in npm repo ? | 09:03 |
| akilaw | what I'll check in npm | 09:03 |
| akilaw | wait I'll check | 09:03 |
| akilaw | yeah | 09:04 |
| akilaw | https://www.npmjs.com/package/zebkit | 09:04 |
| akilaw | :-) | 09:05 |
| RzR | so it should be trivial | 09:06 |
| akilaw | which means? | 09:07 |
| akilaw | So can i use the generating tool for this right | 09:08 |
| RzR | sure go ahead ! | 09:09 |
| akilaw | ok RzR | 09:10 |
| akilaw | So no need to think about layers right? | 09:10 |
| RzR | on genivi no need | 09:10 |
| RzR | node is there | 09:10 |
| akilaw | ok RzR | 09:10 |
| akilaw | I creating recipe in this location https://github.com/akilawickey/meta-genivi-dev/blob/master/meta-genivi-dev/recipes-zebra/zebra/zebra_1.0.0.bb | 09:11 |
| akilaw | inside meta-genivie | 09:11 |
| dl9pf | voltbit: yes, it is supposed to work with virtualbox and qemu ... if there are issues, please report on jira.automotivelinux.org | 09:11 |
| RzR | akilaw, maybe open a bug on tracker to ask where should it be | 09:15 |
| akilaw | ok RzR | 09:17 |
| akilaw | where can I find those LIC_FILES_CHKSUM | 09:18 |
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| akilaw | recipetool | 09:26 |
| dl9pf | akilaw: md5sum over the license file in question | 09:42 |
| CTtpollard | the gplv3 dodging in genivi13 is really saddening | 09:49 |
| akilaw | ok dl9pf | 09:52 |
| akilaw | RzR how can I use the recipetool | 10:01 |
| akilaw | I mean to generate the recipe file using recipetool | 10:01 |
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| RzR | akilaw, https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/TipsAndTricks/NPM will help | 10:10 |
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| chbae | hi | 10:56 |
| akilaw | hi chbae | 10:56 |
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| chbae | hello akilaw :) | 10:57 |
| CTtpollard | hi chbae | 11:00 |
| chbae | hello CTtpollard. | 11:00 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: back from Tokyo now? | 11:01 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: Sure. I’m in Korea now. | 11:02 |
| akilaw | moving around the world :-) | 11:02 |
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| fury | hi guys | 16:26 |
| CTtpollard | o/ | 16:26 |
| fury | how's it hangin? | 16:26 |
| akilaw | hi fury | 16:26 |
| akilaw | fine | 16:27 |
| leon-anavi | hi fury | 16:28 |
| fury | :D | 16:28 |
| leon-anavi | I have to go away from the keyboard. See you later | 16:34 |
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| dl9pf | ronan__: ping, you there ? | 16:57 |
| dl9pf | anyone reflashed an m3 lately ? | 16:58 |
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| mranostay | dl9pf: define lately | 18:15 |
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| fury | is it just me or does anyone else hear a high pitched whine when listening to radio on the RTLSDR? | 18:35 |
| mranostay | fury: no but i have a little tinnitus at times :) | 18:39 |
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| mranostay | fury: doesn't happen with mediaplayer? | 18:40 |
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| fury | nope | 18:54 |
| fury | and i recall having the same high pitched whine when i was playing with the command line util until i upped the sample rate on the radio | 18:54 |
| fury | is it just usign the command line utility to do its thing? | 18:54 |
| mranostay | that would be a smurray question. | 18:55 |
| smurray | fury: I do sometimes. I have experimented a bit with the command-line rtl_fm utility, and didn't have any success w/o tuning it away | 18:55 |
| fury | hmm | 18:55 |
| fury | i found a sweet spot around 200khz where it seemed to go away, but maybe that was just for my ears | 18:56 |
| fury | is there an easy way to adjust that in the existing app or does it need a recompile | 18:56 |
| fury | cause i dunno how to rebuild the current demo apps | 18:56 |
| smurray | fury: I've repurposed the code from the cmd-line utility, but you would need to tweak the code | 18:56 |
| fury | oh ok | 18:56 |
| smurray | fury: sampling rate of 200kHz | 18:56 |
| smurray | ? | 18:56 |
| fury | yeah | 18:57 |
| fury | if i recall correctly | 18:57 |
| fury | i tried higher and higher and the radio got quieter but not better quality | 18:57 |
| fury | don't know if there's a specific multiple it needs to be in order to be ideal | 18:58 |
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| smurray | fury: I'm using 200 KHz as sampling rate, 48 KHz as resampling rate | 18:59 |
| fury | oh | 18:59 |
| fury | hmm | 18:59 |
| fury | maybe i cranked it up to 400 then | 18:59 |
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| smurray | I'd be curious if the CPU load goes up a bunch from that | 18:59 |
| fury | me too | 19:00 |
| smurray | I can do some experiments here later, need to wire some stuff back up after being on vacation | 19:00 |
| smurray | if you want to tinker with the app, you'd need to use externalsrc in your configuration to point at a local repo | 19:02 |
| smurray | INHERIT += "externalsrc" | 19:03 |
| smurray | EXTERNALSRC_pn-radio = "/home/scottm/dev/agl/radio" | 19:03 |
| smurray | or the like in your site.conf or local.conf | 19:03 |
| smurray | and clone the radio repo to wherever you point at | 19:03 |
| fury | sounds good... i saw iotbzh released an alpha version of the SDK, what would be really neat is if that came with instructions on how to draw up a custom home screen or customize the existing apps (or if it's easy enough I could just do it and draw up a wiki/docs entry or something like that) | 19:04 |
| fury | was rocking the pi with the 7" DSI display last week at WWDC, the AGL demo UI is tiny on that thing :D | 19:04 |
| fury | was gonna try and do a landscape orientation instead | 19:05 |
| smurray | I think homescreen customization would need someone from Qt or maybe Mentor to work through | 19:05 |
| smurray | it's not really an app f/w thing | 19:05 |
| fury | oh | 19:05 |
| mranostay | fury: use a stylus :) | 19:05 |
| fury | :P like, say, Apple Pencil? | 19:05 |
| smurray | and the current homescreen is admittedly full of hard-coded hacks | 19:05 |
| dl9pf | mranostay: I had to reflash u-boot 10 times for it to really use the new u-boot ... the procedure is very tedious | 19:06 |
| smurray | fury: wrt customizing the existing demo apps, that's probably less painful to start. I believe the goal is they should all build with the SDK as well as part of the build, and I don't think that works yet | 19:08 |
| smurray | fury: for the homescreen, it might be the case that you want to join the appropriate work group call to get status on what the state is, I believe there's planning going on for enabling what you're asking about (as well as dropping in complete replacements, etc.) | 19:10 |
| smurray | dl9pf: so is an u-boot update required on m3? | 19:10 |
| fury | awesome | 19:10 |
| fury | yeah, i should start joining the calls again | 19:11 |
| fury | i used to lurk | 19:11 |
| fury | need to lurk more | 19:11 |
| fury | i got close to building soemthing with the sdk, i think... i built something and then it didn't show anything on the screen | 19:16 |
| mdp | smurray/fury, it's not just homescreen that's full of hard-coded "features" it's also the demo apps that expect a certain layout too. because of the nature of the layer management and how apps have just a drawing area in the middle of the overall screen size, they are organized around that portrait layout and any switch to landscape would require some rejiggering of some apps to make them happy. | 19:16 |
| fury | yeah, i've been getting my feet wet in qml and whatnot, was wanting to try and do some of that rejiggering | 19:17 |
| mdp | probably only mixer is trivial enough to not care | 19:17 |
| mdp | cool | 19:17 |
| fury | i made a qml app that compiles everywhere, even ios | 19:17 |
| fury | orients things whether it's in portrait or landscape | 19:18 |
| fury | so was just wanting to compile that for AGL and see if i could get it up on screen | 19:18 |
| mdp | yeah, take a look at the additional assumption given that the navigation and media areas are always visible from homescreen when an app is up | 19:19 |
| mdp | you'll also need to work around that.. | 19:19 |
| mdp | e.g. do you reorient nav buttons to left or keep with a top strip and waste more space in landscape? | 19:19 |
| fury | i was just thinking that whole top strip could be flipped over on its side | 19:20 |
| mdp | the nice thing is you can do whatever you want ;) | 19:20 |
| fury | yeah | 19:20 |
| mdp | if you try to get some kind of UI consensus you'll only be met with bikeshedding | 19:21 |
| mdp | typically | 19:21 |
| fury | i would love to do whatever i want if i knew where to hackjob it :D i'm guessing i'd have to edit the homescreen source through an externalsrc type dealio too? | 19:21 |
| fury | since i couldn't quite figure out how to build the demo apps with the SDK | 19:21 |
| fury | or i guess that's not quite working yet | 19:21 |
| mdp | fury, if you really want to upset people, go for a modern UI that dispenses with the whole notion of a grid of icons (e.g. android auto) | 19:22 |
| jobol | I dream an html5 homescreen | 19:22 |
| fury | hehe | 19:22 |
| mdp | jobol: lol | 19:22 |
| fury | i actually whipped up an entirely HTML5 ui, it's just that it didn't actually do anything, i was just using js and css transitions/animations to do everything like flip album art over to get to the track list or whatever | 19:23 |
| fury | and hardcoded the art/track list/favorites/etc | 19:23 |
| fury | this was before i knew of AGL | 19:23 |
| mdp | jobol: my recurring dream is a Forth-based homescreen | 19:23 |
| jobol | idea good dup dup approve | 19:24 |
| mdp | +1 ;) | 19:24 |
| jobol | I had a boss who had say I'd better have an APL one | 19:25 |
| mdp | heh, AGL should hold a contest for most ridiculous homescreen implementation. | 19:26 |
| mdp | mranostay: like the reddit ridiculous volume slider contest | 19:26 |
| fury | hmm | 19:26 |
| fury | so i just flashed porter with the latest build as of this morning, i get no audio :D | 19:27 |
| mdp | https://i.redd.it/xwlb42y2nx2z.gif | 19:27 |
| mdp | https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/6gbvr9/redditors_design_worst_volume_sliders_possible/ | 19:27 |
| fury | i loved those volume controls | 19:27 |
| fury | especially the random one | 19:27 |
| fury | click a button, volume is now 32, click it again, it's now 85, woo one button control ftw | 19:27 |
| mdp | hehe, the one had a set of dice to help visualize it | 19:28 |
| fury | pactl says my usb sound card is "running" but yet i hear nothing | 19:28 |
| mdp | one of my favorites: https://i.redd.it/uu79jhp0t12z.gif | 19:28 |
| mdp | fury, does pactl show it muted or corked? | 19:28 |
| fury | mute says no, not sure where to look for cork | 19:29 |
| fury | oh | 19:29 |
| mdp | adjacent field | 19:29 |
| fury | pactl sink-inputs says the loopback fgrom my phone is muted | 19:29 |
| mdp | are you running current master? | 19:29 |
| fury | yup | 19:29 |
| mdp | yeah, I'm debugging an issue where module-router/audiomanager are leaving all the sink-inputs muted | 19:30 |
| mdp | was approaching the point to file an issue one I gathered some more info..there's a possibly related issue where audiomanager asserts and systemd has the restart it just by connecting a BT device. | 19:31 |
| mdp | I did file SPEC-660 on the latter | 19:32 |
| mdp | s/has the restart/has to restart/ | 19:32 |
| fury | cool. pactl set-sink-input-mute 3 false worked for now | 19:33 |
| mdp | fury, audio works much better if I disable module-router as a workaround..fwiw | 19:33 |
| fury | ah i remember doing that on the last flash | 19:33 |
| mdp | yup, or just whack the sink input as a quick test | 19:33 |
| fury | do i disable that in default.pa? | 19:34 |
| mdp | yes, it's the last few lines | 19:34 |
| mdp | just comment those | 19:34 |
| mdp | then audiomanager has nobody to talk to | 19:34 |
| fury | ok cool | 19:34 |
| fury | any functionality lost by disabling that atm? | 19:34 |
| mdp | the working functionality it disables is where it manages corking of streams on start. I believe smurray confirmed that it properly corks/uncorks radio if you start media playback. | 19:35 |
| mdp | important feature, but not critical if you are trying to have functional audio elsewhere. | 19:36 |
| smurray | yeah, disabling it loses that | 19:36 |
| fury | ah ok | 19:36 |
| fury | not too worried about that just wanted to have most of the thing semi-functional. i think i've had at least 2 people stop by my office and see it running and go "what's THAT?" | 19:37 |
| mdp | fury, if you are bored, the docs for the generic audiomanager controller that isogai did are pretty good..it makes for some great nightime reading if you can't sleep ;) | 19:37 |
| fury | :D | 19:37 |
| fury | i feel like i've almost started getting a handle on this linux audio stuff | 19:37 |
| mdp | now add all the genivi/agl specific magic in and.... | 19:38 |
| fury | i was having lots of fun a couple weeks ago playing with a headset paired to the system, had to set the default sink and whatnot, and a phone call almost worked but it didn't put the headset into sco mode | 19:38 |
| fury | magic is fun | 19:38 |
| fury | is a reboot supposed to work, or does it always hang on "a stop job is running for weston wayland compositor" and other things? | 19:40 |
| smurray | it should work, if you see that please file an issue in JIRA | 19:52 |
| fury | will do :D | 19:52 |
| fury | well it eventually gets past it, looks like it gives up waiting after a minute and a half and just flips the switch | 19:52 |
| fury | but yeah | 19:52 |
| fury | ooh, just got a phone call and it looked like it was gonna bring up a different screen to let me answer it, but just blank | 19:53 |
| mranostay | so anyone seeing this today? every application fails with this https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9EG4Xcgv/ | 20:03 |
| mranostay | dl9pf: did any new framework changes get merged during the weekend? note this is a debug build but that shouldn't matter | 20:03 |
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| dl9pf | mranostay: see: https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/q/project:AGL/meta-agl+status:merged | 20:07 |
| dl9pf | 9609 | 20:07 |
| fury | hmm. i have not had that happen, and i built all the changes merged up to today | 20:07 |
| mranostay | dl9pf: i take that back only apps that need binders are segfaulting | 20:08 |
| fury | i can even start up hvac | 20:08 |
| mranostay | wonder if it being a debug build is an issue.. if so that is going to be a problem | 20:09 |
| fury | i built agl-demo agl-appfw-smack agl-devel agl-sota | 20:09 |
| fury | but prolly should just leave out the sota stuff until i actually have the time to set up a sota server here i guess | 20:09 |
| fury | never seen it in action | 20:10 |
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| mdp | fury, the app support for telephony is in a PoC state now. There is no notification of an incoming call or answer/reject button unless you are in the phone app. If you have that app open, then it will show the incoming call number and have answer/reject buttons. | 20:13 |
| fury | yeah, that was pretty cool, saw that a couple weeks ago :D | 20:13 |
| mdp | fury, adding a notification popup or switch to phone app is future work | 20:13 |
| mdp | first some things need to be transitioned to standalone bindings so this will all work properly | 20:14 |
| mdp | fury, oh cool, I'm very thankful it works for somebody else. | 20:15 |
| fury | i am trying to learn how bluetooth works on linux, that's one of the places where i want to help out most cause that's pretty much how i'd use my radio in my car, just pair my phone to it and play whatever app from the phone, and occasionally have to take phone calls from 20th century companies that haven't moved to twitter or text yet | 20:15 |
| fury | :D | 20:15 |
| mdp | fury, we'll need to add fax support next | 20:16 |
| fury | that was what i worked on the most with my last radio, in a tiny MCU system with "free" Bluetopia | 20:16 |
| * mdp was asked to fax something today :( | 20:16 | |
| fury | bluetooth has a fax profile, right? :P | 20:17 |
| fury | oh man. whenever i get a request for a fax or something like that, i just google whatever's the latest and greatest online faxing service, sign up for the free trial there, and send the one fax. every time i have to send a new one, there's always another fax service that's popped up offering me a free trial | 20:17 |
| fury | reminds me of AT&T's old commercials, "you'll be able to video call across the world, you'll be able to send a fax from the beach, and the company that will bring it to you? AT&T" | 20:19 |
| fury | something like that | 20:19 |
| smurray | fury: heh, I have also done the free trial fax with an online service to send something | 20:20 |
| fury | nowadays, it's not faxing from the beach, it's tweeting on the snaptagrams from the beach :P | 20:20 |
| mdp | "then off to dinner in your flying car" | 20:21 |
| fury | AGL will be the head unit of my self driving, flying car | 20:21 |
| fury | i will make it happen :P | 20:21 |
| mdp | crash has so many connotations in the context of that autonomous, flying car of yours with AGL. | 20:22 |
| fury | yes :D | 20:22 |
| fury | i will make the microsoft car joke of 1995 not only a reality, but a sitcom. the new "have you tried turning it off and on again?" | 20:23 |
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| mdp | "I rebooted, but I'm losing altitude *fast*!" | 20:24 |
| fury | debating whether to install the alpha version of the new XDS and try to build an app that comes up on screen on AGL, or push it to tomorrow and call it a day | 20:25 |
| mranostay | hmm non-debug symbols image works | 20:36 |
| dl9pf | mranostay: interesting | 20:37 |
| dl9pf | so you omit'ed the -dbg packages ? | 20:37 |
| dl9pf | smack acl for debug files ? | 20:38 |
| dl9pf | maybe ? | 20:38 |
| dl9pf | or location + acl of debug files ? | 20:38 |
| mranostay | well i'm kicking off another build with the dbg packages to confirm | 20:40 |
| fury | https://www.qt.io/qt-automotive-suite/ is this a thing? does it work with AGL or is it not so open sourcey? | 20:59 |
| fury | btw, i've got like 20 cores sitting here usually doing nothing unless i'm buildng AGL or whatever - if anyone has a theory that involves changing a config and rebuilding stuff, gimme a holler, i'd be happy to try it if it helps save some time | 21:02 |
| fury | this machine eventually will become my CI/CD build server, for now it's just a second workstation that happens to have enough oomph to do a fresh bitbake within about 45-60 mins | 21:02 |
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| jobol | fury, you will gloriously build chromium in less than an hour | 22:39 |
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| fury | :D is that good or bad? | 22:42 |
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