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| leon-anavi | morning | 07:21 |
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| fredcadete | good morning | 07:28 |
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| RzR | leon-anavi, are you using agl on minnowmax ? | 07:56 |
| leon-anavi | RzR, not yet. I have recently booted AGL on Intel NUC. | 07:57 |
| RzR | leon-anavi, just tested latest snapshot and weston does not start | 07:57 |
| leon-anavi | RzR, can you please share a log of the failure? May be you should report the issue in JIRA. | 07:58 |
| RzR | /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so: is missing | 08:03 |
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| RzR | Tarnyko, hi | 08:04 |
| Tarnyko | RzR: hi | 08:04 |
| RzR | Tarnyko, I just rebuilt latest snapshot for minnow | 08:04 |
| Tarnyko | RzR, yes ? | 08:04 |
| RzR | /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so: is missing | 08:04 |
| Tarnyko | RzR: strange. if you built Mesa on your desktop, you would probably need the "--with-dri-drivers=i965" configure flag, and then investigate your config.log ;) | 08:05 |
| RzR | I will compare with published image | 08:06 |
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| Tarnyko | RzR: if you are trying to build non-release Mesa, beware, the "src/intel" subfolder has new requirements (including Python 3). | 08:12 |
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| leon-anavi | btw RzR, Tarnyko while we are discussing AGL. Could you please review my change for setting specific versions of rust crates openssl and hyper (installed through Cargo from meta-rust) in the RVI SOTA client recipe? https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/5635/ | 08:42 |
| leon-anavi | The recipe has been already merged but due to changes in meta-rust I had to make this additional patch. | 08:42 |
| chbae | Hi leon-anavi | 08:43 |
| leon-anavi | hi chbae | 08:43 |
| chbae | today I successfully test to upgrade rpi kernel 4.4. | 08:43 |
| chbae | Next I'll add dtb for 7'inch touch screen and test soon. | 08:44 |
| RzR | Tarnyko, yea released image is not shipping it | 08:44 |
| RzR | Tarnyko, would a bug report help ? | 08:44 |
| leon-anavi | chbae, ok, great! I was also looking at that yesterday. | 08:45 |
| Tarnyko | leon-anavi: sure, looking | 08:45 |
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| leon-anavi | chbae, btw Tizen for rpi was recently updates to kernel 4.4: http://geektillithertz.com/wordpress/index.php/2016/05/05/tizen-3-0-os-on-raspberry-pi-2-linux-4-4/ | 08:46 |
| leon-anavi | chbae, can you please share you recipes for 4.4 kernel? I am interested in trying it out. | 08:46 |
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| Tarnyko | RzR: yes definitely, do not forget to include t.tanikana in the assignee/reviewers, he has the most interest on minnowboard builds | 08:47 |
| chbae | wow. please see https://github.com/chbae/genivi-dev-platform/tree/linux4.4 | 08:48 |
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| Tarnyko | leon-anavi: here you go | 08:48 |
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| gmacario | Hi there! | 09:00 |
| Tarnyko | hello | 09:01 |
| philrob | Hi, there ! | 09:02 |
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| gmacario | Is the TOOL team meeting starting now? | 09:02 |
| * steve_l pokes toscalix | 09:04 | |
| jeremiah | I'm in the telephone conference and I don't think anyone is there? | 09:04 |
| toscalix | ups | 09:05 |
| jeremiah | Nope. Just me. :-) | 09:05 |
| toscalix | apologies, I was working on the tasks | 09:05 |
| toscalix | no no.... | 09:05 |
| toscalix | IRC | 09:05 |
| jeremiah | :P | 09:05 |
| jeremiah | Okay, I'll tell Gunnar. | 09:05 |
| toscalix | ==== Tools Team Meeting starts ==== | 09:05 |
| toscalix | Participants | 09:05 |
| * toscalix here | 09:05 | |
| * steve_l here | 09:05 | |
| gmacario | here | 09:05 |
| jeremiah | here | 09:06 |
| toscalix | * AMM evaluation from the team's perspective. Suggestions for PMO for next event. | 09:06 |
| toscalix | * Follow up from the f2f meeting[1] | 09:06 |
| toscalix | * Github migration: follow up | 09:06 |
| toscalix | * IT priorities from TT perspective. | 09:06 |
| toscalix | Minutes of previous meetings: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/TOOL/Tools+Team+Home#ToolsTeamHome-2016 | 09:06 |
| toscalix | Tha is the agenda | 09:06 |
| toscalix | Let's start. | 09:06 |
| toscalix | 1.- AMM eval. | 09:06 |
| toscalix | Yesterday at PMO there was a round table about feedback | 09:07 |
| toscalix | I would like to read from you what the outcome | 09:07 |
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| toscalix | from the tools team perspective | 09:07 |
| leon-anavi | Tarnyko, thank you! | 09:08 |
| toscalix | btw. Klaus apologies for his absence | 09:08 |
| toscalix | Let me start, I think the f2f meeting went well, for being the last activity | 09:08 |
| toscalix | on Thursday | 09:08 |
| steve_l | not much to add beyond what was said in the PMO as I sadly didn't make the Tools f2f | 09:08 |
| toscalix | I am curious about the rest of the Tolls sessions scheduled | 09:09 |
| gunnarx | you missed a lot :) | 09:09 |
| * steve_l curses marketing and their desire to win business | 09:09 | |
| gunnarx | priorities... | 09:09 |
| gunnarx | which session toscalix you mean common-api and such? | 09:09 |
| toscalix | yes | 09:09 |
| toscalix | franca ones...those scheduled from this team | 09:10 |
| toscalix | I would like to know if I have to provide further feedback to PMO about the event | 09:10 |
| toscalix | from this group | 09:10 |
| gunnarx | I was also forced to miss them I'm afraid. Heard positive feedback from others | 09:10 |
| steve_l | I hear klaus had some material in the common api session on franca api testing that should be useful in the test topic here | 09:10 |
| gunnarx | the slides are online | 09:11 |
| toscalix | has everybody uploaded the slides already? | 09:11 |
| steve_l | common api from klaus and pavel are up | 09:11 |
| toscalix | https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/WIK4/14th+GENIVI+AMM | 09:11 |
| toscalix | the minutes from our f2f meeting are also published | 09:12 |
| toscalix | maybe I should add them to this page also | 09:12 |
| gmacario | My AMM feedbacks are in the minutes of the 2016-05-04 SAT telco - unfortunately I forgot everything after returning back to my non-GENIVI work :-) | 09:12 |
| gunnarx | any "non-GENIVI" work is just an illusion, one day you will understand this | 09:13 |
| gunnarx | sorry, off topic | 09:13 |
| gunnarx | go on toscalix | 09:13 |
| toscalix | unless somebody else has anything to add, let's move on | 09:13 |
| gmacario | I did not say "non-open source work" | 09:13 |
| toscalix | 2.- Github migration: follow up | 09:14 |
| gunnarx | gmacario, well that's my point basically | 09:14 |
| gmacario | GT-3284 | 09:14 |
| toscalix | jeremiah: any news from the f2f meeting in this regard? | 09:14 |
| toscalix | from=since | 09:14 |
| jeremiah | Yes | 09:14 |
| jeremiah | We have now added a few repos, three or four | 09:15 |
| jeremiah | We have added more people | 09:15 |
| jeremiah | We now have 27 accounts | 09:15 |
| jeremiah | We currently have a 'regular' GitHub account | 09:15 |
| jeremiah | This means that we are not paying anything | 09:15 |
| jeremiah | We will have to pay when we want 'secret' repos | 09:15 |
| gmacario | Are you making some burn-out chart to target the completion date for migration (2016-07-01 IIRC)? | 09:16 |
| jeremiah | Or if we want git large file storage | 09:16 |
| jeremiah | gmacario: Not yet. | 09:16 |
| jeremiah | I suppose I should. | 09:16 |
| gmacario | Sounds like a good idea | 09:16 |
| gmacario | we are only 7 weeks until the due date | 09:16 |
| jeremiah | AI: Jeremiah -- create burndown chart for GitHub transition | 09:16 |
| jeremiah | yep | 09:16 |
| gunnarx | s/when/if/ I don't expect any secret repos on github | 09:16 |
| jeremiah | cool | 09:16 |
| gmacario | I wrote burn-out - sounds like a Freudian lapsus | 09:17 |
| toscalix | I have integrated github and jira but still have not used it. https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/GENIVI+Development+Platform+management#GENIVIDevelopmentPlatformmanagement-Githubbestpractices | 09:17 |
| jeremiah | gmacario suggested that I join EG telcos to speak with maintainers. | 09:17 |
| gmacario | And BTW GitHub has just lowered price for private repos for individuals | 09:17 |
| jeremiah | toscalix: Thanks for doing that | 09:17 |
| toscalix | my pleasure | 09:17 |
| steve_l | can you recap the process for adding a user to the org again. I had a look and I can't see how to add myself | 09:17 |
| jeremiah | gmacario: Can I join EG SI and speak next week? | 09:17 |
| gunnarx | jeremiah, directly addressed emails is another option | 09:17 |
| gmacario | As long as someone calls the EG-SI telco yes | 09:18 |
| jeremiah | gunnarx: Yeah, I'm definitely going to go that route. | 09:18 |
| toscalix | sorry guys, something unexpected. I have to drop. Can you keep going ? | 09:18 |
| jeremiah | Ah, okay, perhaps direct emails are the only route left. :) | 09:18 |
| gmacario | You know we have no EG-SI leads | 09:18 |
| jeremiah | toscalix: yep, we can continue | 09:18 |
| toscalix | thanks | 09:18 |
| jeremiah | gmacario: Okay, then I'll contact folks directly. | 09:18 |
| gmacario | Sounds good, just CC EG-SI or the project mailing list so the info is not lost | 09:19 |
| jeremiah | Lifecycle and persistence are projects that need some attention | 09:19 |
| gmacario | We have also User Management IMHO | 09:19 |
| gmacario | but no maintainers left | 09:19 |
| gmacario | so I wonder what we should do with those repos | 09:19 |
| jeremiah | I know that BMW is looking closely at the GitHub terms and conditions so I'm hopeful that they will migrate in the next few weeks. | 09:19 |
| jeremiah | I propose we move them to GitHub and then we can do 'non-maintainer' maintenance if needed. | 09:20 |
| jeremiah | We have this issue with a number of repos that are essentially unmaintained | 09:20 |
| gmacario | Sounds good, will you or should someone else migrate the repos to GitHub (I may but have no rights) | 09:20 |
| jeremiah | I'm happy to do it, I have been doing it bit by bit as I get in contact with maintainers. | 09:20 |
| gmacario | OK then go ahead, thanks! | 09:21 |
| jeremiah | It is easy and we're getting closer to completeness. :-) | 09:21 |
| jeremiah | I'm resending the email about git remotes to genivi-projects | 09:21 |
| gmacario | We could probably write a go.genivi.org pipeline to speed up the migration :P | 09:21 |
| jeremiah | gmacario: I'll leave that up to you. :-) | 09:21 |
| gmacario | I have no write/admin rights (nor I want them) | 09:22 |
| jeremiah | In any case, I think there is a lot of progress, and I'm still optimistic we'll hit the July 1 deadline | 09:22 |
| jeremiah | We can move on unless there are other questions? | 09:22 |
| gmacario | Do we also have a target date for completing the migration from Bugzilla to JIRA? | 09:22 |
| jeremiah | gmacario: No. | 09:23 |
| gmacario | Should we? | 09:23 |
| jeremiah | What would be the driver? | 09:23 |
| toscalix | Back. Apologies. Family matters | 09:23 |
| jeremiah | In other words, why would we want to remove that database of potentially useful information in bugzilla? | 09:23 |
| gmacario | IIRC Bugzilla will no longer be the official tool while at.projects.genivi.org/jira is | 09:23 |
| gunnarx | All bugs in one place. | 09:23 |
| jeremiah | That requires transfer of lots of data and that is a blocker | 09:24 |
| gmacario | GDP did the right thing | 09:24 |
| gmacario | and they made it | 09:24 |
| jeremiah | For sure | 09:24 |
| steve_l | How do we add ourselves to the github org? git hub help tells me how to setup a competing org but not join an existing one | 09:24 |
| gunnarx | Bugzilla is deprecated in favor of JIRA. This isn't news. Are you saying to not transfer old issues but stop adding new Jeremiah? | 09:24 |
| jeremiah | And we have a lot of new projects migrating to JIRA | 09:24 |
| toscalix | we only tranfered the "active" bugs | 09:24 |
| gmacario | "transfer of lots of data": I think about OPEN bugs, that should not state open forever right? | 09:24 |
| gunnarx | There needs to be a deprecation / ramp down plan for bugzilla. | 09:24 |
| gmacario | +1 | 09:24 |
| jeremiah | Yeah, transferring active and/or open bugs is the target and is ongoing | 09:25 |
| jeremiah | But what is the driver for closing bugzilla? | 09:25 |
| toscalix | we assume bugzilla will we accessible for history purposes in read-only mode | 09:25 |
| gunnarx | fair enough, and then archiving the rest I suppose | 09:25 |
| gunnarx | the driver is not adding new issues to it | 09:25 |
| jeremiah | Yep | 09:25 |
| gmacario | IMHO The driver is to track OPEN bugs in a single place - which is JIRA | 09:25 |
| jeremiah | I'm trying to make that clear as we migrate to GitHub | 09:26 |
| gmacario | OK I am just repeating gunnarx here | 09:26 |
| jeremiah | Asking folks to move to JIRA too | 09:26 |
| toscalix | did we moved away from the github topic? | 09:26 |
| gmacario | No this is related | 09:26 |
| jeremiah | But if they are actively working on bugzilla bugs they can keep their workflow if it is required to produce software. | 09:26 |
| jeremiah | I monitor bugzilla to see if there are active bugs and I try and close the old ones | 09:26 |
| gmacario | The point is "tracking closure of open bugs" as a way of monitoring project health | 09:26 |
| jeremiah | Exactly. | 09:27 |
| toscalix | https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/TOOL-72 | 09:27 |
| gmacario | OK so jeremiah do you want to take TOOL-72? | 09:27 |
| jeremiah | Sure, but I think we all should help a bit there. | 09:27 |
| toscalix | agree | 09:27 |
| jeremiah | Let's move the task to something higher than 'low' I guess | 09:28 |
| gmacario | agree | 09:28 |
| jeremiah | Now that we want to move a bit more quickly there. | 09:28 |
| toscalix | we send a mail in the ML. We tell PMO to add it as a point in the next meeting | 09:28 |
| * gunnarx is scrambling to open TOOL-72. | 09:28 | |
| jeremiah | But the TOOL-72 work flow looks good and let's include it in our meetings to track progress | 09:28 |
| gunnarx | We need a bot that provides links to JIRA references... | 09:28 |
| jeremiah | I can be assigned that. | 09:28 |
| jeremiah | gunnarx++ | 09:29 |
| toscalix | we define a deadline for putting bugzilla in read-only mode and then, if somebody wants to have access after that date....request it. | 09:29 |
| gmacario | +1 | 09:29 |
| jeremiah | .oO( perl is perfect for writing IRC bots ) | 09:29 |
| toscalix | perl is perfect for everything...except humans | 09:29 |
| toscalix | :-) | 09:29 |
| * jeremiah stares at toscalix | 09:29 | |
| jeremiah | anyho | 09:29 |
| jeremiah | Let's say we disable new bugzilla account creation June 1? | 09:30 |
| toscalix | fine | 09:30 |
| gmacario | Why not? | 09:30 |
| jeremiah | And then set a date for moving to read-only? | 09:30 |
| toscalix | June 15 | 09:30 |
| jeremiah | I think we can actually close a lot of bugs there. | 09:30 |
| jeremiah | Many are old and stale | 09:30 |
| jeremiah | It would be the perfect thing for a hackathon | 09:31 |
| toscalix | each project should do a clean up....it is one of the very few pros of tools migrations | 09:31 |
| jeremiah | yes | 09:31 |
| gunnarx | Accounts? Disable them now... | 09:31 |
| gunnarx | Disable new bugs June 1 | 09:31 |
| gmacario | > It would be the perfect thing for a hackathon | 09:31 |
| gmacario | TOOL F2F is another topic, hang on! | 09:31 |
| jeremiah | gunnarx: We can do that actually. | 09:31 |
| jeremiah | Why don't I look at the most recent bugs, inform those who are still actively using bugzilla to stop and move to JIRA | 09:32 |
| jeremiah | Then we can disable accounts and press for clean-up? | 09:32 |
| toscalix | Agreement: disable new accounts now. Read only mode June 1st | 09:32 |
| jeremiah | Jeez. | 09:32 |
| jeremiah | You guys move quickly when its not you doing the work. :P | 09:32 |
| gunnarx | that's how we roll. Next topic? | 09:33 |
| philrob | reminder: the moving of bugzilla issues to jira was assigned to IT manager, please sync with Steve who will meet the new IT guys in the coming days | 09:33 |
| gunnarx | oh | 09:33 |
| gunnarx | why? | 09:33 |
| jeremiah | w00t! | 09:33 |
| toscalix | jeremiah: you are right. I would like to get bugzilla out of the way of the new IT guy | 09:33 |
| gunnarx | moving as in copying all data? | 09:33 |
| toscalix | so he only has to move the current one and not worry about LDAP integration | 09:34 |
| gunnarx | what task is assigned to them more exactly... | 09:34 |
| jeremiah | I think the IT guy should jump in the Tools team and help, it will be a good introduction to GENIVI infra | 09:34 |
| philrob | IMHO the IT guy should join the TT , did not we say that during the TT meeting ? | 09:35 |
| gunnarx | I think all that we discussed so far - communication, organization fits well with jeremiah. | 09:35 |
| gmacario | This was planned btw | 09:35 |
| toscalix | philrob: that is the last point of the discussion today | 09:35 |
| gunnarx | Yes sure we did. They will join as soon as they can (earliest next week). we have stuff to assign to them. | 09:35 |
| philrob | ok, missed it | 09:35 |
| toscalix | we need to put everybody in JIRA. Then look at the migration as a pure "data transfer" topic | 09:35 |
| gunnarx | communication, organization: jeremiah. data transfer: The new guys in shorts and hawaiian shirts | 09:36 |
| jeremiah | lol | 09:36 |
| toscalix | philrob: didn't include it in the agenda, but will be there. AOB | 09:36 |
| gunnarx | deal? | 09:36 |
| jeremiah | I want a Hawaiin shirt. | 09:36 |
| gunnarx | earn it | 09:36 |
| gunnarx | :) | 09:36 |
| jeremiah | lol | 09:36 |
| toscalix | So what else on Gityhub migration? | 09:36 |
| jeremiah | I think that is it. | 09:37 |
| jeremiah | We can move on | 09:37 |
| gmacario | Someone has started a build on my go.genivi.org agent, the fan is running crazy! | 09:37 |
| toscalix | 3.- IT priorities from TT perspective. | 09:37 |
| jeremiah | BTW, once migration is done we start on GitHub hooks and branching policy. | 09:37 |
| toscalix | My question is, what activities do we think it should be a priority for IT the coming months? | 09:37 |
| gunnarx | oh I can even see how your machine is suffering gmacario... | 09:37 |
| gmacario | LOL | 09:38 |
| toscalix | We have identifies 2: go.cd and download infra | 09:38 |
| jeremiah | Its a pentium 4 running Windows 7 | 09:38 |
| gunnarx | no offense but builds are painfully slow when they end up being assigned there :) | 09:38 |
| toscalix | those are new services | 09:38 |
| gmacario | > Its a pentium 4 running Windows 7 | 09:38 |
| gmacario | Is this the new HW sourced by GENIVI :P | 09:38 |
| jeremiah | That's your machine. =) | 09:39 |
| toscalix | any other new service? | 09:39 |
| jeremiah | Do we want to store images on GitHub? | 09:39 |
| toscalix | About the current ones, any point we believe it is a priority? | 09:39 |
| jeremiah | They have a git large file system service | 09:39 |
| jeremiah | which is cheap | 09:39 |
| toscalix | jeremiah: nop | 09:39 |
| jeremiah | might be good for GDP? | 09:39 |
| jeremiah | okay, no takers. | 09:39 |
| jeremiah | I withdraw my proposal | 09:40 |
| toscalix | I will use what genivi provides | 09:40 |
| gunnarx | let's ask IT guys | 09:40 |
| toscalix | if the download infra will take long, yes | 09:40 |
| gmacario | git LFS is interesting but no experiences yet | 09:40 |
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| jeremiah | GitHub uses a CDN and I doubt we'll have a CDN | 09:40 |
| jeremiah | So this means faster downloads for everyone | 09:40 |
| gunnarx | we should just set requirements, they deliver solutions. we can propose github LFS as option | 09:40 |
| gmacario | Can someone share the HW configuration being sourced by GENIVI? Just For My Information and Understanding | 09:41 |
| toscalix | fine with me | 09:41 |
| gmacario | I haven't seen a spec so far | 09:41 |
| jeremiah | gmacario: Top secret Intel Xeon servers | 09:41 |
| jeremiah | Sharks with lasers. | 09:41 |
| gunnarx | a little too detailed concern right now, I feel. but in any case I don't have the answer gmacario | 09:41 |
| gmacario | Well I have a clue about what my company provides for projects... just to draw some comparisongs | 09:42 |
| toscalix | are we going to host the mailing lists? | 09:42 |
| gunnarx | what mailing lists? | 09:42 |
| gunnarx | Oh lists.genivi.org? | 09:42 |
| jeremiah | I think we should migrate mailman mailing lists to the new infra, yes | 09:42 |
| jeremiah | Currently it is at least 24 hours turnaround time. | 09:43 |
| jeremiah | Also, LF will not help in spam fighting | 09:43 |
| jeremiah | So currently there is a lot of work with the lists but no way to access them efficiently | 09:43 |
| jeremiah | So I say we migrate them and Joel / New IT and I continue to maintain | 09:43 |
| gmacario | I personally do not consider migrating mailing list a top priority BTW | 09:44 |
| gunnarx | I don't think that's on anyone's radar until you brought it up now. Important concerns, but I feel we are stepping too far from Tools Team into plain infrastructure now. Traditionally that's more an operations thing (PMO) | 09:44 |
| toscalix | so website+ML+jira/confluence (internal+external) | 09:44 |
| jeremiah | okay | 09:44 |
| toscalix | +bugzilla | 09:44 |
| toscalix | lots of work | 09:44 |
| gunnarx | Anyone on this team care about dev tools, debuggers, that sort of thing ;) | 09:44 |
| philrob | hey, steve will come back to us with a migration plan for the it-infra by the end of the month, please prepare a list of requirements | 09:44 |
| gmacario | In JIRA | 09:45 |
| gmacario | of course | 09:45 |
| gmacario | We just need a JIRA users to assign tickets to :P | 09:45 |
| gunnarx | +1 requirements | 09:45 |
| jeremiah | gunnarx: Apparently clang has an excellent static code checker. | 09:45 |
| philrob | assigned them to steve for the time being | 09:45 |
| toscalix | I will create a task related with IT migration plan | 09:46 |
| jeremiah | gmacario: We have a infrastructure JIRA tracker. | 09:46 |
| gmacario | Right! Thanks for reminding | 09:46 |
| jeremiah | https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=1&projectKey=OSSINFR&view=detail&selectedIssue=OSSINFR-33 | 09:46 |
| toscalix | OSSINFR | 09:47 |
| toscalix | 4.- AOB | 09:47 |
| toscalix | I have a point which is the Tools Team meeting schedule | 09:47 |
| toscalix | base on doodle | 09:47 |
| toscalix | we all agree on Tue at 17:30 or Tue 18:00 CEST | 09:48 |
| toscalix | as first option | 09:48 |
| toscalix | Second option (except Klaus): | 09:48 |
| gunnarx | ok... | 09:49 |
| jeremiah | I think we need to cater to Klaus a little bit | 09:49 |
| jeremiah | He's important for these meetings | 09:49 |
| toscalix | Mon at 18:00 or Tue at 18:00 or Wed at 18:30 | 09:49 |
| gunnarx | yeah take a time that works for Klaus | 09:50 |
| jeremiah | All are good for me, but those are late for those of us in CET | 09:50 |
| gmacario | So is Tue at 18:00 CEST good for everybody? | 09:50 |
| toscalix | Sorry, option 1: Tue at 17:30 or Wed at 18:00 CEST | 09:50 |
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| gmacario | Can you send the Doodle link again? | 09:50 |
| toscalix | Tue collides with LRT and W3C | 09:51 |
| toscalix | http://doodle.com/poll/x6nwzi8itrzy59i5 | 09:51 |
| jeremiah | Wednesday would mean that some would start in GENIVI meetings at 16:00 CET and be in them until 19:00 | 09:51 |
| gmacario | Wednesday some start GENIVI meetings at 14:00 | 09:51 |
| toscalix | I personally do not like the idea of driving two meetings in a row | 09:51 |
| jeremiah | I agree. | 09:51 |
| toscalix | GDP first and then Tools | 09:51 |
| philrob | why don't you move TT sync at 2pm CET on Tuesdays | 09:52 |
| toscalix | Tue at 17:30 seems the best option. Mon at 18:00 the second best | 09:52 |
| gmacario | Is 14:00 good for the IT guy? | 09:53 |
| philrob | not likely | 09:53 |
| gmacario | I wish he/she will vote as well | 09:53 |
| philrob | we can ask Steve to check with him | 09:53 |
| toscalix | he /she will be in UTC-7 | 09:53 |
| gmacario | OK let's replan once we know from the IT guy then | 09:53 |
| philrob | he is in Portland | 09:53 |
| gunnarx | philrob: we think we need IT guys pretty much every week, at least for a quick sync up. | 09:54 |
| philrob | agreed | 09:54 |
| toscalix | gmacario: our options are so reduced... | 09:55 |
| philrob | all: we need to avoid accumulating meetings on Tuesdays and Wednesdays | 09:55 |
| toscalix | I will talk to Klaus to evaluate option 2 | 09:55 |
| gunnarx | agred but Doodle had friday options or not? | 09:55 |
| toscalix | if it is not possible for him....we will go for option 1 | 09:55 |
| gunnarx | OTOH, late meeting friday night is not exactly what suits everyone | 09:55 |
| gunnarx | so forget that | 09:56 |
| toscalix | I have meetings friday afternoon | 09:56 |
| gunnarx | Shall we anyway try out wed 1800 CET assuming we think Klaus can join. | 09:56 |
| toscalix | I will talk to klaus and we decide next week in this meeting | 09:57 |
| toscalix | let's see if we can open the Monday option | 09:58 |
| toscalix | Any other topic? | 09:58 |
| gmacario | Shall we also plan the next Tool Team F2F? | 09:58 |
| gmacario | IIRC jeremiah offered to host us in Gothenburg in July | 09:58 |
| jeremiah | yep! | 09:58 |
| gunnarx | OK let's reach a decision in the next days I hope. | 09:58 |
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| toscalix | I would like to open the option of malaga | 09:59 |
| gmacario | The sooner the better as I am already booked for the last two weeks in July | 09:59 |
| gunnarx | fine by me :) | 09:59 |
| gunnarx | both of them | 09:59 |
| jeremiah | Same here | 09:59 |
| toscalix | I will send a proposal this week then | 09:59 |
| toscalix | dates and hotel | 09:59 |
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| toscalix | So we are done | 10:00 |
| toscalix | 5 | 10:00 |
| toscalix | 4 | 10:00 |
| toscalix | 3 | 10:00 |
| toscalix | 2 | 10:00 |
| toscalix | 1 | 10:00 |
| philrob | agustin: I have sent the doodle likn to steve | 10:00 |
| toscalix | ok | 10:00 |
| toscalix | == Tools Team Meeting Ends == | 10:00 |
| gmacario | Bye! | 10:01 |
| gunnarx | Can we start looking at some dates... Use the F2F coordination. We may want to co-locate SAT etc. | 10:01 |
| jeremiah | ciao | 10:01 |
| gunnarx | toscalix, you know the F2F coordination page? It's a way to propose dates and find some coordination, before they are finalized | 10:04 |
| toscalix | no I don't know | 10:05 |
| toscalix | ah, yes | 10:05 |
| toscalix | philrob: showed me yesterda | 10:05 |
| toscalix | that is why I found out that tue after the PMO call there are two others | 10:05 |
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| leon-anavi | I am building GDP with the linux 4.4 kernel for rpi2 right now using chbae GitHub repo | 11:20 |
| toscalix | leon-anavi: you are a hero. As we spoke at the event, that would be a great improvement | 11:28 |
| toscalix | Tom is sick today | 11:28 |
| toscalix | jonathan is paying attention to Minnowboard release and I am preparing the GDP call | 11:29 |
| leon-anavi | toscalix, I hope Tom will recover quickly. Regarding rpi2, last week Mauro for Samsung OSG pointed me to a video and source code for Tizen on rpi2 with linux 4.4 and today chbae shared with me his work. | 11:29 |
| leon-anavi | so I am just giving it a try :) | 11:29 |
| leon-anavi | toscalix, unfortunately I will miss the call today. | 11:29 |
| leon-anavi | I have to get out earlier due to another arrangement. | 11:30 |
| toscalix | ooohhh, I was going to share a video of me naked....you will loose it | 11:30 |
| leon-anavi | :) | 11:32 |
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| Tarnyko | great article on AGL lately : http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-linux-in-your-car-movement-gains-momentum/ | 11:52 |
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| toscalix | Tarnyko: agree. ZDNet has a good audience | 11:56 |
| toscalix | And Steven I think is a good writer | 11:57 |
| Tarnyko | toscalix: yes, I frequently stumble on his writings when gathering news for other stuff, agreed | 12:00 |
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| leon-anavi | Tarnyko, congrats for the article :) | 12:11 |
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| Tarnyko | leon-anavi: nice, it is explicitly mentioning Tizen and GENIVI | 12:26 |
| leon-anavi | yes :) | 12:28 |
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| fredcadete | jeremiah: regarding the email about github migration | 13:31 |
| fredcadete | is it intentional to migrate only 'master'? | 13:31 |
| fredcadete | at least the tags should also be migrated in order to not lose history | 13:33 |
| jeremiah | fredcadete: I just used that as an example | 13:47 |
| jeremiah | I think it is up to the maintainers to decide what they think is relevant. | 13:48 |
| jeremiah | Perhaps its reasonable to have some older versions that aren't supported anymore squashed? | 13:48 |
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| fredcadete | sure, to each maintainer to judge | 13:54 |
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| toscalix | GDP call in less than an hour | 14:04 |
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| chbae | Hello | 14:09 |
| toscalix | chbae: hello | 14:09 |
| chbae | toscalix: I joined maintainer’s meeting but no one is there. | 14:09 |
| toscalix | we cancelled | 14:10 |
| toscalix | I was not sure if you were around and tom is sick | 14:10 |
| chbae | toscalix: ah ok. | 14:10 |
| chbae | toscalix: i’ll update gdp meeting report for kernel upgrade in rpi2. | 14:11 |
| toscalix | it is already done and sent | 14:11 |
| toscalix | let me create a task | 14:12 |
| chbae | https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-152 | 14:12 |
| toscalix | and you provide update there? | 14:12 |
| toscalix | feel free to report about it during the GDP call, ok? | 14:12 |
| chbae | ok | 14:12 |
| toscalix | ah, right :-) | 14:12 |
| toscalix | grrrrrr | 14:12 |
| toscalix | I missed it | 14:12 |
| chbae | :) | 14:13 |
| toscalix | let me update the report | 14:13 |
| toscalix | very quickly | 14:13 |
| chbae | ok. | 14:13 |
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| toscalix | chbae: I moved GDP-192 from In progress to ToDo since the ball is in Rolands court for some days now | 14:18 |
| chbae | ok | 14:19 |
| toscalix | chbae: have you checked tom single branch? | 14:19 |
| chbae | toscalix: just see the basic scheme. | 14:20 |
| toscalix | do you have any comment or suggestion? | 14:20 |
| chbae | the scheme is good and I’ll review in detail after finishing Tom’s work. | 14:20 |
| toscalix | ok, thanks | 14:20 |
| chbae | if he would like to review the current implmenetation, i’ll review. | 14:21 |
| toscalix | ok | 14:23 |
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| ToxicGumbo-work | Re: press release, I thought there was an AGL twitter feed for the past couple years…was that nuked? Cleaned up? | 14:35 |
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| Tarnyko | ToxicGumbo-work: I can only find an #Automotive twitter but this seems a general aggregate one. Not heard about an AGL one. | 14:42 |
| Tarnyko | ToxicGumbo-work: oops, sorry : https://twitter.com/autogradelinux | 14:43 |
| ToxicGumbo-work | Thanks. I didn't know if it has been "rebooted" for a new media campaign. Perhaps I was confusing posts by other sources (GENIVI, etc.). | 14:44 |
| ToxicGumbo-work | Glad to see so much activity as of late. | 14:45 |
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| Tarnyko | ToxicGumbo-work: found it in a recent announcement from Dan, looks very recent AFAIK | 14:52 |
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| waltminer | AGL Twitter account is new | 14:52 |
| Tarnyko | ha ok, thought so | 14:55 |
| toscalix | does anybody has problems connecting to the webex server? | 15:00 |
| toscalix | for the genivi gdp call? | 15:00 |
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| jonathanmaw | chbae: are you joining us in the GDP webex call? | 15:05 |
| chbae | yes i’m joining | 15:05 |
| jonathanmaw | toscalix: thanks for covering what was going on | 15:16 |
| jonathanmaw | still not sure what's wrong with my audio | 15:16 |
| jlrmagnus | jeremiah ? | 15:30 |
| jlrmagnus | I am trying to add Ulf Wiger to the GENIVI "remote vehicle interation" team, but I cannot since "uwiger is not a member of this organization" | 15:31 |
| jlrmagnus | Do you need to add him to GENIVI org before I can add him to the rvi team? | 15:32 |
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| toscalix | chbae: where is the example you did of the jira github integration? | 15:46 |
| toscalix | https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-36 | 15:47 |
| toscalix | is the reflection on the jira side | 15:47 |
| toscalix | ah, got it | 15:48 |
| chbae | toscalix: good. | 15:48 |
| toscalix | chbae: I think you used the wrong ticket number | 15:49 |
| toscalix | chbae: shouldn't be this one https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-128 ? | 15:50 |
| chbae | i’m sorry that what is talking about? | 15:51 |
| toscalix | https://github.com/genivi/genivi-dev-platform/commit/fbc2277fd48bf1a59e8c7656c2006d7f30746133 | 15:51 |
| toscalix | there you added the link to the ticket GDP-36 | 15:51 |
| chbae | toscalix: ah. you are right. | 15:52 |
| toscalix | but if I see correctly, the pull request is about rpi3 | 15:52 |
| toscalix | since I want to use your example, I want to make sure the link goes to the right ticket :-) | 15:52 |
| toscalix | as example it works anyway but... | 15:53 |
| chbae | toscalix: I thought that we will find another example :) | 15:53 |
| toscalix | can you change it or you have to do another pull request? In such case, I will just use it as it is | 15:53 |
| toscalix | that is the problem of being first, my friend | 15:54 |
| toscalix | :-) | 15:54 |
| chbae | i’ll think about it. it’s not good way to change merged commit. | 15:54 |
| toscalix | then do not worry | 15:54 |
| chbae | So it’s good to find another example. | 15:54 |
| toscalix | as example it works | 15:54 |
| chbae | How about https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-152? | 15:56 |
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| chbae | toscalix: I’ll send pull request from chbae/meta-genivi-dev with GDP-152 (in commit message) | 15:57 |
| toscalix | great | 15:57 |
| toscalix | I will wait then to send the mail about it | 15:57 |
| toscalix | will you do it now or in the future? | 15:57 |
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| chbae | toscalix: in 10 min. | 15:58 |
| toscalix | ah, ok. Great then | 15:58 |
| chbae | toscalix: that’s just for example. | 15:58 |
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| toscalix | yes | 16:01 |
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| chbae | https://github.com/GENIVI/meta-genivi-dev/pull/3 | 16:14 |
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| chbae | toscalix: please see upper link. | 16:15 |
| toscalix | yay | 16:16 |
| toscalix | thanks | 16:16 |
| chbae | toscalix: welcome :) see you tomorrow. bye. | 16:18 |
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| chbae | toscalix: Now I see https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-152 | 16:23 |
| toscalix | yes.... | 16:23 |
| toscalix | that is what the integration nis about | 16:23 |
| toscalix | adding the new Development menu | 16:23 |
| toscalix | in the jira ticket | 16:23 |
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