IRC logs for #automotive for Tuesday, 2016-05-10

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leon-anavimorning07:11
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dl9pfmorning!08:36
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RzRCTtpollard, https://github.com/GENIVI/genivi-dev-platform/issues/408:55
RzRCTtpollard, +hi08:55
CTtpollardmorning08:55
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CTtpollardI nearly have the minnow ready to push to github08:56
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RzRCTtpollard, cool08:56
RzRCTtpollard, tell me I will make an other/last safe check08:56
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RzRCTtpollard, I see new minnowboard branch09:27
RzRCTtpollard, but it's not based on a tag ?09:27
RzRCTtpollard, are those branches evolving in parallel or they should rebase on a common branch ?09:29
CTtpollardit is simply the branch from git.projects, updated to match the github changes09:30
CTtpollardit will receive a tag09:30
toscalix_RzR: once we have in github the up to date code from the former git, we will focus on arranging the repos to avoid a branch per target09:36
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toscalixis earier to say than to do it09:36
toscalixbut that is the goal09:36
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* CTtpollard believes the extra time taken to fetch unused bsp layers is worth it to move to a single branch structure 10:58
leon-anaviCTtpollard, +1 star in github for genivi-dev-platform :)11:22
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CTtpollardleon-anavi: woop!11:26
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CTtpollardRzR: I've been playing around with a single branch approach, pushed what I have to this fork https://github.com/tom--pollard/genivi-dev-platform/tree/tompollard/branchpoc12:19
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CTtpollardvery basic12:21
leon-anaviCTtpollard, is it time to change the URLs in the wiki from git.projects.genivi.org to github.com ?12:39
CTtpollardleon-anavi: just holding out on that until I get confirmation12:40
leon-anaviok12:40
leon-anaviI am planning to launch a build for rpi2 using the source code from github12:40
CTtpollardRzR: I have some time to try out your pull request, if you've got info for me on how to build with it12:40
RzRsure I will add a readme file12:41
RzRctbruce, but it's easy12:41
RzRCTtpollard, ^12:41
RzRsorry12:41
RzRbitbake genivi-ocf-demo-image12:41
CTtpollardRzR: do I get a tizen watch?12:41
RzRI will add a CLI client to verify12:42
RzRbut you can build it without client 1st12:42
CTtpollardyes sure, I was only trying to get free stuff... ;)12:42
CTtpollardor in other words, do I get my to ask my boss for shiny things12:44
RzRCTtpollard, I have also a map app in my bag that could run on gdp12:46
RzRbut 1st let's merge oic12:47
RzRI will add it to demo layer once everything we showed is merged12:48
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dl9pfAGL dev call in a few ...13:00
gunnarxdl9pf, do you need IRC for taking notes?13:01
gunnarx(or can we keep talking I mean :)13:01
gunnarxCTtpollard: who will confirm to you that it is time to change the URLs?13:01
dl9pfgo ahead, we'll just past notes anyway13:02
gunnarxok13:02
CTtpollardgunnarx: the maintainership team13:02
gunnarxah :)13:02
CTtpollardgunnarx: also I'm still sad that I didn't get to try your beer13:03
gunnarx:)13:03
gunnarxbrb afk13:03
CTtpollardchbae: hey :)13:04
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dl9pfdevcall:  meta-security-isafw merged, secure compilation flags merged. see snapshot builds and log directories in there for reports.13:06
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CTtpollardRzR: can I go ahead and kick off a build directly from https://github.com/TizenTeam/genivi-dev-platform/commits/sandbox/pcoval/for/qemux86-64 then?13:10
RzRyes13:10
RzRI can also push a minnowboard branch13:11
RzRwith the same patches13:11
RzRI am building it now13:11
RzRCTtpollard, on which branch do you prefer ?13:11
CTtpollardqemu is fine for now, if we move to a single branch it will be based off of qemu13:12
RzRok perfect13:12
CTtpollardmy poc is anyway13:12
jeremiahThere are some pull requests for GDP on the qemu branch now. :-)13:12
CTtpollardgood to see!13:14
jeremiah:-)13:19
dl9pfdevcall: review and discussion of combo-layers/repo/git-submodules (Presentation Tanikawa) , to be discussed again next meeting13:21
dl9pfdevcall: Status of https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-17213:21
CTtpollardRzR: baking13:28
dl9pfdevcall: sandbox branches in agl gerrit. working.13:38
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jbocklage123http://www.amazon.de/3Dconnexion-SpacePilot-3D-Motion-Controller-Taste-verkabelt/dp/B00283VWK4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462887857&sr=8-2&keywords=3d+controller13:44
jbocklage123:))13:44
jbocklage123USB ;)13:44
toscalixjbocklage123: cool13:45
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paulsherwoodtoscalix: yy.ww14:20
paulsherwoodas numbering scheme14:21
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RzRCTtpollard, ok I tested that patch set on minnowboard branch it's ok14:33
CTtpollard\o/14:33
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toscalixpaulsherwood: yy.ww requires some cadence we currently do not have14:36
paulsherwoodno, it doesn't14:37
paulsherwoodthe main advantage is that people can look at any historical release and know when it came from14:37
paulsherwoodi'm not suggesting we need to do every week 16.19, 16.20, 16.21 etc14:38
toscalixI think that the value of that goes on top of the fixed cadence14:38
toscalix16.02..... people will expect 16.0314:39
toscalixunless they know is a 6 month release, for instance14:39
toscalixbut that requires explanation14:39
toscalix1.1 then 1.2 no matter how long it takes the release, requres no explanation14:40
toscalixI think date matters when releases are frequent14:40
toscalixif you have a snapshot every week, or month....then it make sense14:40
paulsherwoodyour call, then :)14:42
toscalixwe should go into that direction.... but the proposed numbering schema is not incompatible with that. It will simply be a label on top of a particular set of builds, one per target14:42
toscalixI thought about it, I really did. But I think in our context it will work better a more tradition schema for now14:43
toscalixwe are not there14:43
CTtpollardRzR: still building for qemu here, will probably be tomorrow morning until I can boot it14:44
toscalixpaulsherwood: but definetly is a valid alternative so we can discuss it. If there is agreement on it, I will go for it. The key point here is "agreement"14:45
* paulsherwood gave up on that a long time ago :)14:47
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toscalixjajajaja... I hope this discussion is a short one. My experience with names is not very positive though.14:50
toscalixI expect somebody to raise that suggestion14:52
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jeremiahCTtpollard: Gunnar's beer was quite good15:29
toscalixjeremiah: we will try it in the Tools Team meeting :-)15:33
CTtpollardheh, I was setting up porter boards at the time so couldn't join15:33
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CTtpollardleon-anavi: any chance you could test this for me and see what you think? https://github.com/tom--pollard/genivi-dev-platform/tree/tompollard/branchpoc15:43
leon-anaviCTtpollard, sure15:43
leon-anaviCTtpollard, so this is PoC for a single branch that can be used for all supported hw, right?15:44
CTtpollardleon-anavi: that's what I was aiming for, but it's very basic right now15:44
CTtpollardI've built for all the targets using it, but I'm sure there's many nicer ways to implement it15:45
CTtpollardalso my bash is a little rusty from defaulting to python scripting all the time15:45
leon-anavicool, I like this approach. it is important to start from somewhere and after that we will build on it :)15:46
CTtpollardmy biggest problem with single branch for all hw is during cycles where not all targets are supported15:48
leon-anaviyes, I understand15:49
leon-anaviCTtpollard, apart for Wayland/Weston are there any other bottlenecks while supporting various hw platforms?15:49
CTtpollardleon-anavi: there can be the condition where the target's bsp layer hasn't been upgraded to the corresponding poky release15:50
CTtpollardnot the case right now as we're quite far behind, but still15:50
leon-anavitrue, this could be an issue for not so popular hw platforms15:51
CTtpollardor where we use non upstream versions, such as meta-renesas15:52
CTtpollardanyhow, I have to leave now15:52
CTtpollardbye all15:52
leon-anaviok, see you tomorrow15:52
CTtpollard:)15:52
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Tarnykojblocklage: this is what I was referring to during last meeting: http://0pointer.de/blog/the-new-sd-bus-api-of-systemd.html16:07
Tarnykojbocklage: ^^16:08
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jbocklage123Tarnyko: ah, I see. tl;dr, it seems that it is a C-library for dBus clients (sender and receiver), right? It does not provide a daemon (which is OK) ;)16:28
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peepsalothi, anyone here experienced with linux socketCAN?21:22
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