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sanjeevcan someone from agl provide me a link to the AGL release history02:29
sanjeevhttps://wiki.automotivelinux.org/subsystem/agl-build-release#agl_build_tools_and_release_team02:29
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westonhi any GDP-jetson.tk1 guys around?06:12
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westonI have ported the GDP on Jetson Tk1 (using source build) - ybd method07:28
westonI could run my Qt front end and middleware07:28
westonBut there are errors coming during runtime. unable to run consistently gets  continuous " nouveau W[     DRM] skipped size 0,  nouveau E[     DRM] failed to create ce channel, -2207:29
westonany clues?07:29
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paulsherwoodpedroalvarez: any thoughts on that? ^^08:41
paulsherwoodor radiofree maybe?08:42
toscalixSince we are releasing GDP ivi9 beta today, I won't be able to drive the Tools Team meeting, as communicated by mail. jeremiah , if you or Gunnar can, I would appreciate if you become chair of the meeting.08:56
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CTtpollardmorning chbae09:37
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CTtpollardchbae: can you look at the journalctl for weston, or add --log=weston.log to the service exec?09:39
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toscalixGENIVI tools team meeting is delayed to tomorrow at 10:00 UTC09:43
toscalixapologies for the short notice. I haven't been able to find a substitute as chair09:44
toscalixin such a short notice09:44
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CTtpollardchbae_: can you look at the journalctl for weston, or add --log=weston.log to the service exec?09:48
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gunnarxJust confirming, tools meeting is tomorrow then?10:13
gunnarxnever mind, saw it in the logs now10:13
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toscalixgunnarx: yes10:16
toscalixGDP-ivi9 beta (YOCTO based QEMU image) will be released today at 12:00 UTC10:17
JEEBnice10:19
RzRtoscalix, when is next release ?10:20
toscalixRzR: today at 12:00 UTC the beta. On March 8th aprox the QEMU image of GDP-ivi 9. From there up to April 5th aprox the images for target boards10:22
gunnarx... or sooner if people contribute the remaining changes?10:23
toscalixof course10:23
gunnarxoff to lunch10:23
* CTtpollard currently hates cars10:25
CTtpollardbut for mechanical reasons10:25
janidont even have a license to drive one :)10:27
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zakariaHello everyone. I am new to AGL. But yesterday i successfully boot it on Renesas Koelsch board instead of Porter.11:08
zakariathis hint, was just to boot with the Koelsch dtb instead of Porter one, since the use the same kerne source tree.11:10
toscalixOnly one hour left for the release of the new beta version of the GENIVI Open Source demo platform GDP-ivi9 Stay tuned.11:11
CTtpollardzakaria: yeh, the koelsch is the evaluation version of the porter :) and welcome!11:11
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CTtpollardzakaria: you can also try the Genivi GDP on Koelsch if you'd like11:19
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gunnarxzakaria: Koelsch and Porter have identical chipsets I think.  Neither AGL build or GDP should notice much difference in reality between the boards11:38
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gunnarxSorry guess I repeated what CTtpollard said.11:39
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CTtpollardfreenode :/11:40
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gunnarx...and one by one they're coming back :).  Yeah it works "some of the time...".  I'm still without a bouncer also, I should do something about that11:41
gunnarxCTtpollard : Actually I see some differences in GDP between porter and koelsch branch at the moment -  meta-genivi-demo not fully updated?11:42
gunnarxthe logs are useful though11:43
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CTtpollardgunnarx: they should both be pointing to the same commit of meta-genivi11:43
paulsherwoodgunnarx: fancy trying chat.codethink.co.uk? :)11:43
CTtpollardalthough I'm still wating for slawr to provide a fix for the koelsch branch11:43
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gunnarxpaulsherwood, not a chance -irclogs.baserock.org is enough for me11:44
gunnarxCTtpollard - you're right, I had not merged11:45
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gunnarxCTtpollard:  git diff porter koelsch init.sh11:46
paulsherwoodgunnarx: ack :)11:46
gunnarxmight as well make them equal11:46
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leon-anavihi11:54
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CTtpollardhey leon-anavi11:55
leon-anaviis anyone else having issue while building python-uinput as part of GDP for rpi2? I had to add udev as a dependency of python-uinput.11:55
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leon-anaviI sent a GitHub pull request to Amir's meta-genivi-demo in GitHub.11:55
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CTtpollardgah net splits, many reboots it seems12:00
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gunnarxFreenode is not healthy today...12:00
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janigunnarx: they are upgrading .. there was  wall from op earlier today about that.12:01
CTtpollardleon-anavi: I've not had a problem with it, but you could drop the python-unipunt recipe and corresponding package that uses it12:02
CTtpollardleon-anavi: also have you seen the latest work that is being done on this? chbae is doing some work to bring this inline with the gdp repo and meta-ivi-9 https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-8212:03
leon-anaviCTtpollard, I am not familiar with the details about the porting efforts. I have just built the platform following the instructions.12:04
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gunnarxhttp://git.projects.genivi.org/?p=meta-genivi-demo.git;a=commitdiff;h=26dc9af408e1436c59ef7fee9950162d928347aa12:05
gunnarxI just answered on your email Leon.  Your request to Amir's repo is still valid of course until things are up to date12:06
leon-anavigunnarx, cool :) I did the same and forwarded to Amir12:06
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gunnarxMy point is Amir's R-Pi repo is according to this at least 2 months behind, so Amir and the rest of you Pi hackers would benefit from branching off of the official repo instead to easier track the development there.12:07
leon-anavigunnarx, is there an article with exact steps how to build the latest version for rpi2? :)12:08
Tarnyko1nice, Vulkan (post-OpenGL) APIs and SDKs are available, at last : https://vulkan.lunarg.com/12:08
gunnarxjani, OK, good to know that it is expected, and hopefully temporary12:08
leon-anavigunnarx, first I started from the wiki, but after that  moved to Amir's tutorial at GitHub which is more recent. I edited the wiki article and pointed out it is outdated.12:09
gunnarxthanks for doing that12:09
leon-anaviwith a big red label that no one can miss :)12:09
toscalixGDP-ivi9 beta is out https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/2016/02/08/GDP-ivi9+beta+released12:10
paulsherwoodw00t! :)12:12
CTtpollard:)12:12
leon-anavitoscalix, I see precompiled images for QEMU only on the download page for GDP-ivi912:13
leon-anavianyway I want to build it from scratch :)12:13
gunnarxleon-anavi, oh, I thought you updated the wiki article.  that would be more useful than saying "it is outdated"12:13
leon-anavigunnarx, well... Amir has published the up to date info at GitHub.12:14
leon-anavigunnarx, ... and obviously it is still not as new as it should be :)12:14
leon-anaviI am a bit confused :)12:14
gunnarxwhatever, it does not matter until the project is brought up to date and using the same process as all others I think12:14
gunnarxit's not really worth putting effort in maintaining special instructions if those can be encoded in the build itself instead, IMHO12:15
leon-anavigunnarx, of course12:15
CTtpollardthere's work to bring it inline as a supported branch here https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-8212:15
gunnarxack12:15
CTtpollardnow gdp has moved to meta-ivi9, a lot of the hacks should not be needed12:16
CTtpollardand audio manager monitor should work12:19
leon-anaviCTtpollard, ok, sounds good12:20
leon-anavihow am I supposed to build meta-ivi9 for rpi2?12:21
leon-anavicould you please point me to an article?12:21
CTtpollardleon-anavi: shows the current expected roadmap: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/GENIVI+Demo+Platform+%28G.D.P.%29+Roadmap the JIRA ticket shows the current work underway to adapt the raspi build: https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-8212:23
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CTtpollardthe work by chbae is an adaption of the initial work from amir12:23
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leon-anaviCTtpollard, I have started watching the issue in JIRA12:25
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leon-anaviCTtpollard, the issue in JIRA is a work in progress, right?12:26
CTtpollardleon-anavi: indeed12:26
CTtpollardI've been working on it when I can, but the past week has been very busy12:27
leon-anaviok12:27
leon-anaviCTtpollard, so... still the straight forward way to build GDP for rpi is Amir's tutorial, isn't it?12:27
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CTtpollardthe vc4 driver is missing from the rootfs atm12:28
CTtpollardleon-anavi: it has been known to produce a 'working' image12:30
leon-anaviCTtpollard, can you point me to some guidelines for making a working image for rpi2 from upstream?12:31
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CTtpollardleon-anavi: as I say, the jira ticket includes all the steps we're taking to make it work with 'upstream', by which I presume you mean the latest version of GDP12:32
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leon-anaviyes, I mean the latest version12:33
leon-anaviCTtpollard, so should I use https://github.com/locust2001/genivi-demo-platform ?12:34
CTtpollardthat should build using the submodules yes, with the latest upgrades of meta-ivi-, meta-genivi, and poky 1.8 etc12:42
CTtpollard*meta-ivi912:42
leon-anaviok, thanks12:42
OneMinerIt's a little controversial but I'm interested in an aspect of browns gas that I haven't been able to learn about online. I wonder about it's use as an octane modifier. Similar to how you'd (ideally) want to run different timing and maybe even compression with high ethanol blend fuels.12:42
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gunnarxOneMiner: People here mostly discuss automotive software.  It's not obvious from the channel name, but it's the reality...12:56
OneMineroh ;(12:56
gunnarxWe only know One Miner here, and that is Walt Miner  :)12:57
OneMinergunnarx any tips on where to talk about that stuff?12:57
OneMinerNot ##cars, they banned me.12:57
gunnarxsorry12:57
gunnarxwish you good luck though12:57
waltminerWoot!12:57
OneMinerDidn't take too kindly to that fancy octane modifier talk12:57
waltminerI would guess not12:57
janithat reminds me, how many of you actually work in automotive software side vs "just a hobby" ?12:58
gunnarxjust a hobby for me ;)12:58
waltminerjob here12:58
gunnarxsome day I will get a shave and a *real* job12:59
waltminersomeday I will get out of the house and get hobby12:59
CTtpollardgunnarx: heh12:59
janigunnarx: working and havent had a shave since 23 years  =)12:59
janis/since/in/13:00
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OneMinergunnarx would you consider general automotive chat off topic?13:01
gunnarxwaltminer, I can recommend homebrewing beer as a hobby - many combine this noble activity with software development13:01
CTtpollardgunnarx: are you bringing some to the AMM?13:01
gunnarxOneMiner, I just don't think you will get a lot of responses that's all.13:01
OneMinerokey dokey. You all are my last, best hope anyways.13:02
gunnarxCTtpollard, that sounds like a request. Let me think about it.13:02
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gunnarxneed to focus on other things now, back in 3 hours or more13:04
CTtpollardgunnarx: ciao13:04
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fredcadetejani: job here13:09
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janilol @ the wall message :D13:28
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CTtpollardhye chbae14:28
chbaeCTtpollard: Hi14:28
chbaeCTtpollard: I can look at the log tomorrow.14:29
janialso due to job  but agl is still bit under radar here .. but i've used to base  image for debugging purposes on my own because it comes with all "nice stuff" in the image where as older guys have been using elinux r-car stuff which is hopelessly outdated..14:29
CTtpollardchbaeL I was just going to say, I should have a bit more time on my hands to work on this now, we managed to release today14:30
chbaeCTtpollard: NP. I’ll debug it.14:31
chbaeand I’ll analyze tizen with raspberry pi2 as well.14:31
CTtpollardI believe leon-anavi is also interested in this :)14:33
leon-anaviyes :)14:33
chbaeCool, I update the work (GDP with raspberrypi2) in https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-82.14:37
CTtpollardRzR: this is really cool! https://vimeo.com/15487926414:42
RzRCTtpollard, thx I posted in list last week ;)14:43
RzRchbae, I plan to upgrade tizen rpi but I have to work on something this week14:44
toscalixRzR: I just watched your video. Cool14:45
RzRother things to come ;)14:45
chbaerZr: Do you manage tizen rpi?14:46
RzRpartially14:46
chbaerZr: cool :)14:48
RzRI'll keep you updated guys will sync w/ leon too14:49
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chbaerZr: ok thx. please keey track of the jira.14:50
CTtpollardchbae: think the mesa changes from this commit will need to be extracted properly, I was having issues with them https://github.com/amirna2/meta-ivi/commit/e9e9dd7ddea02241e7b7b571ab6b460432eabb6814:51
CTtpollardto generate the vc4 driver & patches14:53
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leon-anavihi RzR  :)14:56
CTtpollardwhich were pulled from the raspberry pi fork from tizen14:56
leon-anaviCTtpollard, chbae I have just launched a build from scratch using https://github.com/locust2001/genivi-demo-platform14:57
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chbaeCTtpollard: Cool. I missed it :).15:02
chbaeleon-anavi: Ok. good. please give me your advise. :)15:03
CTtpollardchbae: it's a tricky situation15:05
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CTtpollardchbae: https://github.com/amirna2/meta-raspberry/tree/3d_accel_vc4/recipes-graphics/mesa15:06
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chbaeCTtpollard: I saw https://github.com/amirna2/meta-raspberry/tree/3d_accel_vc4/recipes-graphics/mesa and not applied in my repo.15:06
CTtpollardwe could carry it in meta-genivi-demo, but it would have to be all machine specific, as for all other boards we want to use the mesa provided by poky/meta-ivi15:08
CTtpollardbranching is a possibility15:09
chbaeCTtpollard: I agree. I also would like to use mesa_10.4.x (not mesa_git)15:10
chbaeCTtpollard: So I didn’t apply mesa_git.15:12
CTtpollardchbae: sure, that's also amir's approach afaict15:14
chbaeCTtpollard: Now i’m checking meta-raspberrypi in tizen. It has some difference with meta-raspberrypi of amir.15:16
CTtpollardchbae: can the flags from the mesa_git used in tizen meta-raspberrypi just be transferred to a mesa_10.% append? their layer also has .inc, which will take priority over the one in poky due to layer priority15:19
chbaeCTtpollard: Sure. i’ll15:20
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leon-anavichbae, last time I chcked meta-raspberrypi for tizen was a bit outdated. There was an issue building the kernel from the branch with hw acceleration for wayland/weston. RzR is that fixed now?15:23
CTtpollardleon-anavi: was that due to the upstream rebase? we've found a mirror for that commit15:24
RzRleon-anavi, please give a couple of days and I'll check it , cant be done now15:26
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leon-anaviCTtpollard, not sure. I didn't have enough time to investigate15:26
leon-anavifurthermore the repo is hosted by S-OSG and I am not sure if there is a mechanism for external contributions. I think I just forked in github and changed the kernel pointer to a version without acceleration.15:28
chbaeCTtpollard: Nothing special in meta_git and most of flags are already moved by you.15:28
CTtpollardchbae: yup, which makes me think hopefully have to use the .inc provided by tizen15:32
chbaeCTtpollard: Ok.15:33
CTtpollardchbae: because you've taken everything else into meta-genivi15:33
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paulsherwoodhttp://i.imgur.com/xPz6U2R.png15:44
paulsherwoodPlantUML wizards wanted :)15:44
CTtpollardpaulsherwood: any chance at rendering at a higher dpi?15:45
paulsherwoodCTtpollard: is this better? http://i.imgur.com/i2txwsG.png15:47
paulsherwoodor feel free to fiddle with 'scale .5' from https://github.com/devcurmudgeon/ivi-architecture/blob/master/diagram.uml15:48
CTtpollardchbae: or we move the specifics we need from the tizen.inc into the bbappend, that should work I think15:48
CTtpollardpaulsherwood: much better :)15:48
paulsherwoodcool :) alignment is borked, though, and the low-level box has wound up at the top. needs some TLC15:49
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toscalixGENIVI GDP Call is about to start. All instructions were sent to genivi-projects ML16:02
toscalixDo you need help?16:02
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