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weston | hi all, gm | 05:14 |
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sukesh | Hi, am building genivi code. Am getting this error : I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl | 06:18 |
sukesh | for libdrm module | 06:18 |
sukesh | my system have these pkg docbook-xsl, docbook-utils. | 06:20 |
sukesh | do i need to install anything else? | 06:20 |
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toscalix | GENIVI tools team meeting in 2 min. | 09:58 |
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toscalix | === GENIVI Tools Team Meeting === | 10:01 |
toscalix | Agenda | 10:01 |
toscalix | * Discussion Meeting: | 10:01 |
toscalix | ** Topics | 10:01 |
toscalix | ** Next Meeting? | 10:01 |
toscalix | ** Channel? | 10:01 |
toscalix | * WIP update | 10:01 |
toscalix | ** Link to kanban: https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=8 | 10:01 |
toscalix | any other topic? | 10:01 |
gunnarx | For me, I think most topics can probably be handled under those headings. Nothing to add. | 10:02 |
toscalix | before we start,,, who is here? | 10:02 |
* toscalix here :-) | 10:02 | |
toscalix | gunnarx: | 10:03 |
toscalix | who else? | 10:03 |
toscalix | let's wait 2 min for other to join then | 10:03 |
gunnarx | Hello, hello, hello.... Is there an echo in here? :) | 10:04 |
gunnarx | I know gmacario1 may be offline, he will not be in SAT today. | 10:04 |
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gunnarx | ok philrob and steve_l joining now... jeremiah, you awake? | 10:05 |
gunnarx | klaus is not here it seems | 10:05 |
steve_l | I will need to drop by about 10:40 | 10:05 |
steve_l | we just on IRC or on something else as well? | 10:06 |
gunnarx | People who use bouncers need to go /away when they're away... IMHO. | 10:06 |
gunnarx | b/c I see lots of names with a stake in tools... | 10:06 |
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gunnarx | steve_l, we are only on IRC I think | 10:09 |
steve_l | k just saw augustin's email on that | 10:10 |
toscalix | great | 10:10 |
toscalix | sorry....had an issue | 10:10 |
toscalix | back | 10:10 |
toscalix | apologies | 10:10 |
toscalix | point one of the agenda | 10:10 |
toscalix | should we have the discussion meeting next week? | 10:10 |
gunnarx | ok, not too many people registered as active so I'd propose we keep it quick and short? | 10:11 |
toscalix | the answer implies we will have time to prepare them :-) | 10:11 |
toscalix | and linked to that... which topics we have on the table that requires discussion? | 10:11 |
gunnarx | A audio conf next week would make sense IMHO. Easier to discuss some of the finer points and overall goal setting | 10:11 |
gunnarx | I've been working on yet another summary of git process and tools... | 10:12 |
toscalix | any other topic we should include in that meeting? | 10:12 |
toscalix | aham... that is a good one | 10:12 |
gunnarx | to try to reach conclusion on github, gerrit, etc. | 10:12 |
toscalix | steve_l: any other proposal? | 10:13 |
gunnarx | just added a ticket to migrate go.genivi.org to new server. but that should not affect anyone if done right | 10:13 |
steve_l | mirroring? | 10:13 |
gunnarx | it's part of that topic | 10:13 |
toscalix | that is on the PMO plate | 10:13 |
toscalix | I am assigned to that | 10:14 |
toscalix | working on the proposal, although I am late already | 10:14 |
toscalix | goals and git process could be enough | 10:14 |
toscalix | for 1 hour | 10:15 |
toscalix | plus 5 min for any significant update | 10:15 |
gunnarx | I proposed to bzh guys to adopt the franca install project for their eclipse installations (docker image) presented at FOSDEM | 10:15 |
gunnarx | I'm considering renaming it to eclipse_installation_automation instead, because that's what it is | 10:15 |
toscalix | Should we first wait to get their answer before including it in our discussion? | 10:16 |
steve_l | Expect you will do this but in proposal can it refer to the areas Gunnar listed in his email, rather than just use "mirroring" everywhere. On its own its not exact enough | 10:16 |
gunnarx | sorry I'm jumping ahead. ok, "mirroring", don't we already have all the aspects of this known? | 10:17 |
toscalix | I think we can discuss it here once the PMO has discussed | 10:17 |
gunnarx | do I have to summarize the summary I'm working on :) or should we move this to mailing list which I think would be more efficient? | 10:17 |
toscalix | if we need to in terms of implementation | 10:17 |
toscalix | if we move forward | 10:18 |
toscalix | +1 to mailing list | 10:18 |
gunnarx | I have no idea what topic is open on PMO meeting about this. It just seems to be passed around. Who cares about the forum I say, let's solve it | 10:18 |
gunnarx | ok mailing list itis | 10:18 |
toscalix | any other topic we should include? | 10:18 |
toscalix | So, next meeting will be a discussion one. | 10:19 |
philrob_ | mirroring is tracked in the pmo; because the deployment will have a cost and also because of the license compliance | 10:19 |
gunnarx | include when, now? on mailing list? on next call? | 10:19 |
toscalix | include in the next discussion meeting | 10:20 |
toscalix | we have so far | 10:21 |
gunnarx | interesting meta discussion. I would propose to include everything that is open on our issue tracker. as a start. | 10:21 |
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toscalix | That is not realistic, I think. The idea is to reach conclusions, not to translate the IRC to video chat | 10:21 |
gunnarx | I see. | 10:21 |
toscalix | we pick up 2 or 3 topics that requires long conversations and push them forward through video chat | 10:22 |
gunnarx | Yes, I see. | 10:22 |
toscalix | the status/follow up kind of meetings are through IRC | 10:23 |
toscalix | so.... two topics then: Tools goals and the git strategy | 10:23 |
gunnarx | lgtm | 10:23 |
toscalix | can you develop? | 10:23 |
gunnarx | no parse | 10:24 |
gunnarx | develop what? | 10:24 |
toscalix | lgtm.... I thought it was a new topic? | 10:24 |
toscalix | :-) | 10:24 |
gunnarx | no, no new topic | 10:24 |
toscalix | then we move forward. Next decision is the channel we will use for the meeting | 10:24 |
toscalix | we have webex as default | 10:24 |
toscalix | do we want to try a different one? | 10:25 |
gunnarx | plan for next audio/video conf looks alright. you could add goal setting for sdk/dev environment although I think we have a pretty good idea already | 10:25 |
gunnarx | I'm ok with any choice | 10:25 |
toscalix | in gdp call we are making tests. If today's one works fine, we can use that one. If not, webvex | 10:26 |
toscalix | webex | 10:26 |
toscalix | no objections? | 10:26 |
* rZr _o/ | 10:26 | |
steve_l_ | I tried connecting to first one jeremiah mentioned - dont have name to hand - but it was blocked as irc site. can see if i can get it unblocked if necessary... | 10:26 |
gunnarx | last webrtc test was not perfect. for me a good audio connection is necessary | 10:27 |
toscalix | jitsi.org you mena? | 10:27 |
toscalix | mean? | 10:27 |
gunnarx | yes | 10:27 |
rZr | sorry I am came to meeting, I am not really involved into automotive project, and did present myself | 10:27 |
rZr | ^ i am late... | 10:27 |
gunnarx | but I'm ok with testing some things out when it's not a critical discussion | 10:27 |
gunnarx | Hi rZr | 10:28 |
toscalix | so we will propose an option and if not.... webex | 10:28 |
rZr | IRC is fine when there are many persons | 10:28 |
steve_l_ | I'll try whatever you proposed for gdp before meet :) | 10:28 |
toscalix | fine, solved. | 10:28 |
rZr | video is ok if few pple else it's a mess | 10:28 |
toscalix | we have about 10 / 15 min for WIP | 10:28 |
toscalix | Agenda topic: WIP | 10:29 |
toscalix | gunnarx: do you want to start? | 10:29 |
toscalix | https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=8 | 10:29 |
gunnarx | ok. going through "todo" then . | 10:29 |
gunnarx | tool-28 run EA on wine. Have not tried. low prio. | 10:29 |
gunnarx | tool-31 test eclipse automotive, last time I checked I was waiting for more input from Klaus. I will reassign. | 10:30 |
gunnarx | but I think it is obsolete question for me. I'm ok with the current basis for franca automation which is eclipse-dsl | 10:30 |
gunnarx | tool-36 build more dlt configurations - I tried to outsource this to dlt maintainers via mailing list. | 10:31 |
gunnarx | No response I think, unless I missed it on the list (nothing addressed to my inbox at least) | 10:32 |
gunnarx | so waiting on that | 10:32 |
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gunnarx | move go to new server, yeah it's brand new. I suspect delivery date on this is around 4 weeks or so. It's not urgent. | 10:32 |
gunnarx | "in progress": publish go.cd proposal. It's done. Let me close up the final action and close ticket. | 10:33 |
gunnarx | ^^ that was tool-7 | 10:33 |
gunnarx | tool-9 git and mirroring and stuff is for next week's conference then | 10:33 |
gunnarx | tool-10 is done. I will comment and close | 10:33 |
toscalix | great | 10:34 |
gunnarx | tool-15 all common api builds. all but one is done. would appreciate more participation from the component maintainers here | 10:34 |
gunnarx | ok, there are too many topics assigned to me. let's bring someone else in now :) | 10:34 |
steve_l_ | tool-39 lava prototype - no progress this week | 10:35 |
steve_l_ | and i'm done with my list :) | 10:35 |
toscalix | Tool-9: I am late but progressing in the proposal for PMO | 10:35 |
toscalix | tool-14: Pedro posted our conclusions about gerrit and go.cd. | 10:36 |
toscalix | So we have something to discuss next week | 10:36 |
toscalix | Tool-44: done just now | 10:36 |
toscalix | about the discussion session | 10:36 |
toscalix | Tool-42: I have a mail from Joel about this in my inbox but haven't gone through it | 10:37 |
toscalix | it is also related to the new status for our jira and the unassigned request from gunnarx | 10:38 |
toscalix | I have solve some of the issues for GDP | 10:38 |
toscalix | if the mail is about having permissions to do the same for Tools, I will do it | 10:38 |
toscalix | that is it from my side | 10:38 |
toscalix | questions about the status provided? | 10:39 |
toscalix | 5 | 10:39 |
toscalix | 4 | 10:39 |
toscalix | 3 | 10:39 |
toscalix | 2 | 10:39 |
toscalix | 1 | 10:39 |
toscalix | any other point before leaving? | 10:39 |
toscalix | == GENIVI Tools Team Meeting Ends== | 10:40 |
steve_l_ | k got to drop talk to you in gdp this afternoon | 10:40 |
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rZr | gunnarx, so let me present myself | 10:43 |
gunnarx | I know :) | 10:43 |
rZr | I didnt want to disturb your meeting | 10:43 |
gunnarx | I think... saw your talk at FOSDEM? | 10:43 |
rZr | cool I should have shake your hand sorry for that ;) | 10:44 |
rZr | so I am still working into Tizen | 10:44 |
rZr | for a korean family run bizness. | 10:44 |
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rZr | and I thought I could help other related projects | 10:45 |
rZr | by keeping connections alive and eventually cooperate on what is making sense | 10:45 |
gunnarx | yes, why not, makes sense to hang around automotive | 10:45 |
rZr | my today topic is Connected things ... and cars are things arent they | 10:46 |
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gunnarx | indeed they are | 10:47 |
rZr | For others who werent able to attend FOSDEM this is the kind of tech I have in my basket : https://fosdem.org/2016/schedule/event/connected_tizen/ | 10:47 |
gunnarx | Yes. SMACK taking over the world and all that ;-) | 10:48 |
CTtpollard | heh | 10:48 |
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rZr | I am not a security guy | 10:48 |
gunnarx | ok | 10:49 |
rZr | I am better at breaking stuff ;) | 10:49 |
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gunnarx | me too | 10:49 |
rZr | lol | 10:49 |
sukesh | hey i am getting build error for genivi for raspberry pi build.. i am following this link : https://github.com/amirna2/genivi-manifest. Error is coming for libdrm module : "I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl" | 10:49 |
rZr | jobol, is the one that could stop us ;) | 10:49 |
CTtpollard | sukesh: can you provide the build log error in a pastebin? | 10:49 |
jobol | yes I am | 10:50 |
rZr | so anyway my today question is simple, is there an entry point for a developer to build and evaluate GDP ? | 10:50 |
gunnarx | @CTtpollard | 10:52 |
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sukesh | CTtpollard, https://paste.ee/p/AWq2H | 10:52 |
CTtpollard | hey, sure rzr: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/GENIVI+Demo+Platform+Home | 10:54 |
CTtpollard | * rZr | 10:54 |
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rZr | CTtpollard, thx | 10:56 |
CTtpollard | sukesh: try installing docbook-style-xsl on your build machine | 10:57 |
rZr | CTtpollard, thx, I'll try that on my dead time, my minnowmax is bored | 10:59 |
CTtpollard | rZr: awesome :) can't tell if mine is bored or not | 11:00 |
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rZr | thx for the tips guys, ask me if I can help regarding Tizen or IoTivity project | 11:06 |
CTtpollard | rZr: I'm currently doing some testing using a tizen fork of meta-raspberrypi | 11:07 |
CTtpollard | so I might ping you for that | 11:07 |
CTtpollard | for vc4 support | 11:08 |
sukesh | CTtpollard, docbook-style-xsl is available for 12.04?? do you have any idea? .... and Can I build it on 12.04?? | 11:11 |
rZr | CTtpollard, kernel went away ;) | 11:12 |
rZr | I have to go, keep in touch | 11:13 |
CTtpollard | sukesh: docbook-xsl is in 12.04, apt-get install that and see it it solves the issue | 11:14 |
rZr | FOSDEM was so great and motivating | 11:14 |
CTtpollard | rZr: catch you soon :) | 11:14 |
rZr | Thanks for behind here , AGL, GENIVI, OE, Tizen , an happy family ;) | 11:15 |
rZr | for being there sorry | 11:15 |
sukesh | i have docbook-xsl already.. but am not able to find docbook-style-xsl.. | 11:15 |
sukesh | it does not work with docbook-xsl | 11:15 |
Tarnyko | dl9pf_: hi. Do patches reviews inside "meta-agl" still trigger minimal "agl-image-ivi" rebuild, or is it full-fledged "agl-demo-platform" now ? | 11:16 |
CTtpollard | sukesh: hmm, you could append the recipe to to not generate man docs, but with docbooks & dockbooks-xsl installed I'm unsure what the problem is | 11:17 |
CTtpollard | *docbook | 11:18 |
CTtpollard | sukesh: can you use a more recent release of Ubuntu? | 11:21 |
jani | ^ or if not, compile inside a container with never buntu .. | 11:23 |
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sukesh | I am using common server.. It will disturb others.. i can try in virtual box.. | 11:23 |
sukesh | CTtpollard, How about blocking libdrm? | 11:24 |
sukesh | does it have major impact on build? .. I guess libdrm is for drm file playback right.. hope it wont impact much | 11:26 |
leon-anavi | Hi CTtpollard, which kernel for meta-raspberrypi for vc4 support are you using? | 11:26 |
rZr | leon-anavi, it's not yet merged is it ? | 11:27 |
rZr | it's still experimental IIRC | 11:28 |
leon-anavi | Last time I tried building Tizen with enabled hardware acceleration graphics in Wayland/Weston I spotted an issue with the exact commit used in the kernel recipe: https://lists.tizen.org/pipermail/dev/2016-January/006940.html | 11:28 |
rZr | yea I told you it gone away | 11:29 |
leon-anavi | rZr, no, it is not merged into the upstream of meta-raspberrypi and I am not sure if there are any plans to do it. | 11:29 |
rZr | searching in trees could help | 11:29 |
rZr | but I have a version that works on wayland egl using userland | 11:29 |
leon-anavi | rZr, I have other tech problems to solve right now :) | 11:29 |
CTtpollard | leon-anavi: the fork I have uses 4.1 | 11:30 |
rZr | sure we can keep this for later | 11:30 |
leon-anavi | CTtpollard, is this the fork from samsung osg git repos? | 11:30 |
dl9pf_ | Tarnyko: agl-demo-platform | 11:30 |
CTtpollard | leon-anavi: yup | 11:30 |
dl9pf_ | Tarnyko: https://git.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/gitweb?p=AGL/releng-scripts.git;a=tree | 11:31 |
CTtpollard | picked up from the tizen blog on raspi2 | 11:31 |
Tarnyko | dl9pf_: thanks ! I didn't understand why my review (https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/5363) wasn't building at first | 11:31 |
leon-anavi | CTtpollard, if you try downloading and building everything from scratch you will end in my situation as described at Tizen ML :) | 11:31 |
Tarnyko | dl9pf_: by the way, it removes all Yocto 1.7 legacy from meta-agl, if you want to take a look | 11:32 |
CTtpollard | leon-anavi: indeed, I've switched the source url to a mirror of that commit :) | 11:32 |
dl9pf_ | looking ... we can merge 5365 first and then recheck/merge | 11:32 |
leon-anavi | CTtpollard, ok | 11:32 |
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CTtpollard | leon-anavi: the source you changed it to, did it work ok? | 11:33 |
dl9pf_ | Tarnyko: reviewing ... big +1 already for the reduction. | 11:33 |
Tarnyko | dl9pf_: looks good to me, maybe just wait for it to build sucessfully (no reason for it to fail) | 11:33 |
leon-anavi | CTtpollard, rZr this meta-raspberrypi fork is outdated. I will try to contact Samsung guys cause someone needs to fix it and keep it up to date or get it merged in the upstream | 11:33 |
Tarnyko | dl9pf_: thanks ; well, keeping all this stuff may have caused lots of headaches later | 11:34 |
leon-anavi | CTtpollard, my quick fix (as described in that mail) was good enough to build an image but I am not sure that it had hardware acceleration in Wayland/Weston. | 11:34 |
rZr | leon-anavi, best is to report bug on jira, then I know what to be done | 11:36 |
leon-anavi | rZr, ok, lets keep this for #tizen I have this rpi2 task in my todo list for my spare time :) | 11:38 |
CTtpollard | leon-anavi: http://paste.baserock.org/imobeturum | 11:38 |
leon-anavi | CTtpollard, cool, thank you! | 11:38 |
CTtpollard | not the cleanest way, but still a mirror of the commit | 11:38 |
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dl9pf_ | Tarnyko: could you push meta-efl to meta-renesas's conf.sample, too ? | 12:55 |
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Tarnyko | dl9pf_: sure, doing the patch right now ! | 13:08 |
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Tarnyko | dl9pf_: here it is :https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/5369 | 13:13 |
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radiofree | hi, what version of systemd is in poky? | 14:13 |
radiofree | http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=54f01ca1174179918828a9b61ebc6c3e62da8e88 ?? | 14:14 |
radiofree | yes that's it | 14:15 |
kooltux_ | s | 14:24 |
dl9pf_ | Tarnyko: merged | 14:29 |
Tarnyko | dl9pf_: cool ! thanks | 14:34 |
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jlrmagnus | Morning | 15:30 |
jbocklage | today's SAT meeting was canceled? | 15:30 |
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toscalix | Remember, to join the GDP open call at 16:00 UTC please click here: https://talky.io/gdp-open-call | 15:55 |
toscalix | GENIVI Demo Platform open call in 4 min. | 15:56 |
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toscalix | we have 4 people on the call | 16:04 |
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toscalix | we will start in one minute | 16:04 |
toscalix | Remember, to join the GDP open call at 16:00 UTC please click here: https://talky.io/gdp-open-call | 16:06 |
toscalix | we are starting | 16:06 |
* paulsherwood is in a meeting considering software download, and is wondering what is the latest state of the GENIVI SOTA project? could i describe it as 'in development, poc, alpha, beta, production-ready, battle-hardened' or what? :) | 16:10 | |
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steve_l | howdy, talky.io is a good masterclass in how not to design a HMI | 16:27 |
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toscalix | what we are about to ship is beta | 16:33 |
steve_l | ok cant get on talky. It blows so hard | 16:33 |
toscalix | steve_l: we will then leave the topic for next meeting | 16:33 |
toscalix | steve_l: have you try mobile | 16:34 |
toscalix | ? | 16:34 |
steve_l | ios only. another reason why it blows. problem is UI for enabling camera.. | 16:36 |
toscalix | join without camera | 16:36 |
toscalix | https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-51 | 16:36 |
toscalix | request from stephen | 16:36 |
steve_l | seemingly you can't | 16:36 |
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toscalix | steve_l: we are in AOB. If you join...we talk about your request. If not...we leave it for next week | 16:41 |
steve_l | Thanks. but cant join via that hateful sw. I'll probably take it to the ML | 16:42 |
steve_l | need an answer on it very soon | 16:42 |
toscalix | steve_l: we will try a different one next time | 16:42 |
toscalix | philippe also had probelms | 16:42 |
toscalix | we are 5 people in the call | 16:43 |
steve_l | Firefox one JF suggested perhaps. They may have actually tested their s/w.. | 16:43 |
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toscalix | steve_l: sorry about that, It seems we haven't found the perfect solution yet | 16:46 |
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steve_l | ok better luck next time | 16:53 |
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toscalix | paulsherwood: not sure if you read my answer above | 16:53 |
toscalix | if you did, forget about it | 16:53 |
paulsherwood | :) | 16:53 |
toscalix | it was not referred to SOTA | 16:53 |
paulsherwood | i guessed that :-) | 16:54 |
toscalix | I was in the middle of the gdp call | 16:54 |
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jlrmagnus | paulsherwood, ATS is integrating SOTA with SWM. | 17:06 |
jlrmagnus | I would say that it is ready for pilot use after that. | 17:06 |
jlrmagnus | We still need to flesh out SWM with actual rpm/deb/fdisk/dd calls, but allt he infrastructure is inplace | 17:06 |
paulsherwood | jlrmagnus: ack | 17:07 |
paulsherwood | does the project include/recommend/prescribe any scheme for effecting actual update(s) once the new code is delivered at the vehicle? | 17:08 |
jlrmagnus | Yes. | 17:08 |
jlrmagnus | I'll mail you the spec. | 17:08 |
paulsherwood | ok, great, thank you. sorry i guess i could have googled this! :) | 17:08 |
jlrmagnus | Sent | 17:10 |
paulsherwood | great - is that doc public, by any chance? | 17:12 |
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* paulsherwood wonders if it could/should live at http://advancedtelematic.github.io/rvi_sota_server/ (which seems to be the official genivi SOTA homepage?) | 17:15 | |
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jlrmagnus | It is CC 4.0, so it is public, although not officially approved by GENIVI. | 17:19 |
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jlrmagnus | The SOTA code needs to be moved to Genivi's git repo. | 17:19 |
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paulsherwood | i'm not sure i agree... that github pages implementation is lovely, and very easy to navigate - i'm not sure genivi has any equivalent functionality? | 17:23 |
jlrmagnus | Talk to Jeremiah and Philippe about that one. | 17:24 |
paulsherwood | heh :) | 17:24 |
jlrmagnus | I'd be happy with github | 17:24 |
paulsherwood | well, if we *dont* mention it, maybe the code can just stay where it is? :) | 17:25 |
paulsherwood | let's just keep this conv between ourselves :-) | 17:25 |
jlrmagnus | Yeah, in this private forum. | 17:25 |
paulsherwood | exactly | 17:25 |
paulsherwood | we're among friends | 17:25 |
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jeremiah | jlrmagnus: paulsherwood I'm watching you! | 18:58 |
gunnarx | FYI, will take down Go-server for maintenance in 10 min. The data center ops will reboot the machine to fix a bios setting... | 18:58 |
jeremiah | data center ops? | 18:58 |
gunnarx | let me know if it's a problem and I'll delay it | 18:58 |
gunnarx | ya, the super ops | 18:58 |
jeremiah | What will the Network Operations Control say? | 18:59 |
gunnarx | Go server is located in Buffalo, NY. It's like your back yard or something. | 18:59 |
jeremiah | Rebooting to fix a bios setting? Is it running on Azure cloud or something? | 18:59 |
jeremiah | I knew I didn't like it for some reason | 19:00 |
jeremiah | Aside from it being Java | 19:00 |
gunnarx | I want them to confirm that hardware virtualization support is enabled since it's failing to run vagrant jobs with virtualbox | 19:01 |
gunnarx | CTtpollard. OK with you? | 19:01 |
jeremiah | Hmm | 19:01 |
jeremiah | Yeah, that makes sense, vagrant is good to have | 19:01 |
gunnarx | And then I will sell virtual servers to the masses and profit! | 19:02 |
gunnarx | not really... | 19:02 |
jeremiah | w00t | 19:04 |
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jlrmagnus | jeremiah, And I am watching you. | 19:08 |
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