IRC logs for #automotive for Thursday, 2015-10-08

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Guest64566nice curious what operating system is used on car's ecm or car accessories ? And how many ECM, PCM, ...etc are re-programmable/flash-able03:32
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Guest64566Or do most of all the ecm if they go bad have to be replaced completely06:30
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westonhi all08:19
westonpaulsherwood: hello08:19
westonI have a middleware code running in arm linux board. May I know, How can I make it GENIVI compliant?08:21
westonany guidelines to be followed?08:22
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CTtpollardgood morning09:20
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Tarnykohello09:21
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paulsherwoodweston: technically you need to be a GENIVI member to achieve that. iirc, you said you're a researcher at a university?09:36
westonpaulsherwood: yes, yes, I am a researcher and a contractor too09:50
westonpaulsherwood: but I mean, what are the software requirements to make my middleware Genivi compliant?09:51
westonpaulsherwood: any specifications to be followed09:51
paulsherwoodweston: that information is only available to GENIVI members09:51
westonpaulsherwood: means, it is closed loop?09:52
paulsherwoodit is not public09:52
paulsherwoodhowever.... you could, for example, take either the Baserock GENIVI Baseline or the Yocto GENIVI Baseline, and make it work on your hardware. from that perspective you could argue that your solution included a set of the components required for GENIVI compliance09:53
paulsherwoodbut that would not make it 'GENIVI compliant'09:54
westonpaulsherwood: okay, Just for clarification, Do I need to do anything extra in the API level for my software09:54
westoncurretly it runs in arm linux board and it is POSIX09:55
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paulsherwoodwhich API, specifically?09:57
westonpaulsherwood: still I am confused...I have a simple application which runs in all linux plaforms09:57
paulsherwoodbut in any case, i don't think i can answer your question in public. you need to be affiliated to a GENIVI member to establish compliance09:58
westonpaulsherwood: sorry, I am confused, whethere there is any API spec from GENIVI09:58
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westonpaulsherwood: in very high level, I need to understand any software specific mandatory stuffs to be followed for my software10:00
paulsherwoodweston: join GENIVI :)10:02
westonpaulsherwood: hehe already in10:02
paulsherwoodweston: great. so you'll need to access their internal wiki and check the specification10:03
westonpaulsherwood: why it is closed?10:05
paulsherwoodhistorical reasons10:05
westonpaulsherwood: any link says it ?10:05
paulsherwoodnope10:05
westonpaulsherwood: means, any link says to join as a member to read the spec?10:05
paulsherwoodweston: https://collab.genivi.org10:06
westonpaulsherwood: closed!10:09
paulsherwoodyup10:09
westonpaulsherwood: any Genivi baseline yocto for x86?10:10
paulsherwoodweston: sorry, but you could google that yourself?10:10
CTtpollardthere is a maintained qemu-x86 branch10:10
* weston not interested in qemusss10:11
CTtpollardhow about minnowboard? :)10:11
westonCTtpollard: ?10:12
CTtpollardweston: minnowboard is an x86 board from Intel10:12
westonCTtpollard: okay10:12
CTtpollardgenivi demo platform supports it10:12
CTtpollardusing the yocto baseline10:12
westonCTtpollard: okay10:13
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* CTtpollard takes some time to look over the raspi gdp thread12:38
Tarnykohi folks, just pushed a Gerrit review to push the Rygel media server to meta-agl : https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/4123/212:55
Tarnykolet me know your thoughts, thanks !12:55
Tarnyko(corresponding ML  thread : http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/automotive-discussions/2015-October/000893.html )12:55
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steve_lweston: you can get information on the two Genivi compliance programs here: http://www.genivi.org/genivi-compliance-program13:53
steve_lIf it is an application, rather than a platform then you will want to look at the "Works with Genivi" program.13:53
rjeksteve_l: weston has left the building.13:53
steve_lYeah saw thanks, but he may refer back to the log :)13:54
steve_lAs you are already a member the first step would be to get your access to the internal wiki. If you are having problems email help@genivi.org13:56
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CTtpollardgah, it looks like the dizzy branch of meta-raspberrypi only supports RasPi114:01
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CTtpollardyup14:04
CTtpollardwhich is a blocker for yocto gdp7 at least14:11
steve_lAnd GDP on Genivi 8. Latter uses same YP version14:14
CTtpollard:/14:15
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steve_lGenivi 9 is YP 1.8. Personally would like to see YP 2.0 and Weston 1.9.0 for 10.14:17
CTtpollard1.8 Fido would bring support for Pi214:17
steve_lmeta-raspberrypi using anything that would make it difficult to bring back to 1.7 if someone was so inclined? kernel  and u-boot should be simple. What Weston and gst does it use?14:19
paulsherwoodthe only way is forward :)14:20
steve_lDidn't say it was the preferred route :)14:21
CTtpollardit doesn't explicitly provide a weston recipe, but from what Amir has said on the mailing list it is somewhat compatible with weston 1.6 when using ivi 914:22
CTtpollard*meta-ivi14:22
steve_lthat would fit Genivi 9 YBL then14:23
CTtpollardgood to know14:33
CTtpollardalthough it would be nice to support it now, it was mentioned quite a few times at ELCE that people would like it14:33
steve_luseful to know14:34
steve_lI'm sometimes surprised the community doesn't embrace something more open14:34
CTtpollardin what sense?14:34
steve_lh/w details is the first thing to mind. Not sure on current state of its gfx and multimedia14:35
steve_lNot saying it is the wrong choice. Just thinking of the more vociferous in oss14:39
CTtpollardagreed, but it is a very popular and available platform, at a low cost to entry14:41
steve_lagreed. It has many things going for it. No one is perfect and I'm not about to throw stones :)14:42
CTtpollard;)14:44
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Murphyis there reccomended hardware for AGL? I was looking at some of the boards and displays on the wiki and one was like 35018:01
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paulsherwoodMurphy: current de-facto is Renesas Porter, but i expect others will be supported soon19:24
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Murphythanks paulsherwood !21:43
Murphyoooo yeah thats the pricy one. $36021:44
Murphystill cheaper than a pioneer dvd head unit but still..21:45
Murphyi want to put together machine for my jeep that supports ODBii as well as native linux apps21:50
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jlrmagnusMurphy, That is coming up.22:52
jlrmagnushttps://github.com/PDXostc/rvi_v2x_board/blob/master/Doc/V2X%20board.pdf22:52
jlrmagnusSecond rev will be ordered on Monday.22:52
jlrmagnusWe've broken out the GPS / 3G modem to its own board, so that you can just have accelerometer, OBD-II, CAN, and power management.22:53
jlrmagnusIt will plug onto, and power your Raspberry Pi 2.22:54
bretdoes the  v2x provide network access to the raspi?22:59
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jlrmagnusYes.23:36
jlrmagnusIt provides 2G/3G modem functionality.23:37
jlrmagnusStandard 3GPP 25.00723:37
jlrmagnusOn the RasPi, something like 8 USB devices will show up for GPS, 3G, OBD-II, etc.23:37
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