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| Tarnyko | hi folks | 08:42 |
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| Tarnyko | just pushed a patch to let the "agl-demo-platform" QEMU image build against latest Yocto (https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/4075/1) ; feel free to tell me what you think | 08:43 |
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| jeremiah | Tarnyko: Looks like your using dizzy. Isn't the latest version Fido? | 09:21 |
| jeremiah | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases | 09:21 |
| CTtpollard | hello jeremiah :) | 09:22 |
| Tarnyko | hi jeremiah | 09:22 |
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| jeremiah | :-) | 09:23 |
| Tarnyko | yes it's Fido, but I tend to use master to test the latest stuff | 09:24 |
| CTtpollard | jeremiah: any news on getting push access to the web browser poc repo? | 09:25 |
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| Tarnyko | me mentioning Dizzy, comes from the fact that https://git.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/gitweb?p=AGL/meta-agl-demo.git;a=blob;f=README.md specifies it (and in fact, using Dizzy is required, because more recent versions break the build) | 09:25 |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: Let's fix that now! :-) | 09:26 |
| jeremiah | Tarnyko: Ah, okay. | 09:26 |
| * jeremiah looks at the ACLs on browser-poc | 09:26 | |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: You should have a commit bit set for the browser poc | 09:27 |
| jeremiah | Please push to master since I don't believe we have an active maintainer at the moment. | 09:27 |
| CTtpollard | jeremiah: ace! ok | 09:28 |
| CTtpollard | there's no logic change, just a minor cosmetic alteration | 09:28 |
| jeremiah | So full of w00t | 09:28 |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: Do you think it worth sending an email to the relevant list? | 09:28 |
| jeremiah | Or are we over-thinking this? | 09:29 |
| CTtpollard | jeremiah: I don't think so personally, I've just changed the background of the app to not be transparent anymore, so the cursor can be correctly draw against it | 09:30 |
| jeremiah | Great. Thanks for the patch! | 09:30 |
| * jeremiah goes back to his cave for a while. | 09:32 | |
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| CTtpollard | jeremiah: I got denied when trying to push | 11:03 |
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| CTtpollard | just queried the git user with my ssh key and it identifies me | 11:08 |
| CTtpollard | info shows I only have R on it, need W :) | 11:11 |
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| waltminer | === AGL Dev Meeting Starting === | 12:03 |
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| jeremiah | CTtpollard: I'll try and fix, but that is weird since you should have push. | 12:04 |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: Are you using the ssh URI or the https? | 12:05 |
| waltminer | Reviewing action items from last week | 12:06 |
| waltminer | Jan-Simon - update of Jenkins server to 2.11 will be scheduled | 12:06 |
| waltminer | Discussing systemd patch pushed by Tanikawa. | 12:10 |
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| waltminer | Tanikawa found that the committer group is too large to be added as reviewers | 12:15 |
| waltminer | Jan-Simon looking into whether this is a defect in gerrit or if we need to create a smaller reviewer group | 12:15 |
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| waltminer | Tanikawa building Qt 5 and running into problems | 12:17 |
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| jeremiah | Louai++ | 12:18 |
| waltminer | Louai suggests that problem may lie with using desktop OpenGL instead of openGL ES | 12:19 |
| waltminer | He will look at the package settings and respond to mail list | 12:19 |
| jeremiah | What about bringing in things like Qtwayland? | 12:19 |
| jeremiah | It might make life easier? | 12:19 |
| louai | jeremiah: the platform plugin lives in QtWayland anyway - you need it to be able to run Qt apps as wayland clients | 12:20 |
| jeremiah | louai: Ah, okay. Excellent. :-) | 12:20 |
| dl9pf_ | Note on systemd discussion: the patch suggests a distro conf poky-agl-systemd.conf . This breaks the existing documentation. | 12:21 |
| dl9pf_ | If we would make the existing poky-agl.conf to use systemd as it is the default now and create a poky-agl-sysvinit.conf for legacy, we keep the same naming intact. | 12:21 |
| dl9pf_ | I see the heritage wrt genivi and their poky-genivi-systemd.conf. Just pondering if we break now or keep the naming. | 12:21 |
| jeremiah | Oh jeez. It was genivi that started that naming scheme? Yuck. | 12:22 |
| jeremiah | In that case, I suppose the consensus decision from AGL should be the valid one. | 12:22 |
| dl9pf_ | just playing deviils advocate and "keep it simple" - one distro conf might be enough. | 12:23 |
| * waltminer asked a question about SDK for Demo Apps and whether one will be provided | 12:23 | |
| jeremiah | dl9pf_: I agree, keep it simple is almost always the best design decision! :-) | 12:25 |
| waltminer | SDK using the Yocto facilties will be provided after Qt 5 patch | 12:25 |
| waltminer | Louai deferred question about whether Qt Creator will be made available for AGL to next week | 12:26 |
| jeremiah | louai notes that Qt Creator is open source. | 12:27 |
| louai | Qt Creator is open in any case - we do have some extra integration that we might be able to contribute, we are discussing this internally at the moment | 12:28 |
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| waltminer | Discussing adding GENIVI Media manager to build and whether Pioneer will be doing that | 12:29 |
| waltminer | Holiday in Japan so we will push back to the mail list | 12:29 |
| waltminer | AMB - Kevron still maintaining in personal time. | 12:31 |
| waltminer | Who will add to the AGL build? | 12:31 |
| waltminer | Ned stated that we might be able to reuse the GDB recipe. | 12:32 |
| waltminer | Michael asked to clarify that HVAC will be AMB based. Walt confirmed that is the plan | 12:34 |
| waltminer | Michael asked if MOST based audio is part of the plan. Walt is not sure | 12:34 |
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| waltminer | Ned confirmed that AMV is in GDB and volunteered to move it into the AGL build | 12:38 |
| jeremiah | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases | 12:41 |
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| louai | +1 for repo | 12:43 |
| jbocklage | Why not use git submodules? | 12:43 |
| jeremiah | GENIVI's demo platform uses the submodule approach | 12:43 |
| jeremiah | i.e. git checkout {porter,koelsch, ...} | 12:44 |
| louai | e.g. for Boot2Qt we use both | 12:44 |
| louai | :) | 12:44 |
| jeremiah | I agree Michael, a bunch of hashes is hard to manage | 12:44 |
| jeremiah | louai: Then you know which way is better! :-) | 12:44 |
| jbocklage | the README.md should really only cover "How to build" and not "How to setup the folder structure/commits" and so on. And it's easier for Jenkins... | 12:45 |
| jbocklage | (I guess I type too slow ;)) | 12:45 |
| jeremiah | This is what the submodule approach looks like: http://git.projects.genivi.org/?p=genivi-demo-platform.git;a=summary | 12:46 |
| waltminer | Jan-Simon will create a git repo for the “repo” manifests | 12:51 |
| louai | fwiw this is a sample manifest file: https://paste.kde.org/pjz3ivsru/wsoeod | 12:51 |
| waltminer | Tanikawa offered to make inital version of the manifests | 12:52 |
| jeremiah | This is the tool, right louai? --> https://code.google.com/p/git-repo/ | 12:52 |
| louai | jeremiah: yeah that is afaik the official upstream repo | 12:52 |
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| louai | as you can see the ability to define groups is useful once you have more than one target board | 12:53 |
| waltminer | Early next week for Tanikawa to create the manifests depending on other work | 12:53 |
| Nuohan | I would like to talk about test framework | 12:53 |
| jeremiah | Yes, this is a good time for me. :-) | 12:54 |
| jbocklage | +1 for time | 12:54 |
| jeremiah | Two hours later is bad for GENIVI members since there is a meeting at 15:30 CET | 12:54 |
| louai | either works for me although I do prefer this time | 12:54 |
| Nuohan | Are we going to use jenkins as the test framework | 12:54 |
| Nuohan | ? | 12:54 |
| Nuohan | yeah | 12:55 |
| dl9pf_ | build.automotivelinux.org | 12:55 |
| Nuohan | I would like to give a proposal for JTA | 12:55 |
| Nuohan | yeah, about LTSI | 12:55 |
| Nuohan | sorry about the slow type | 12:55 |
| Nuohan | I would like to figure out is there a plan for it | 12:56 |
| waltminer | Jeremiah will look into hooking existing LAVA farm and get back toi us | 12:58 |
| Nuohan | thanks jeremiah | 12:58 |
| jeremiah | Sure, my pleasure. I think that the combo of Jenkins (LTSI test suite) and LAVA will be very powerful | 12:59 |
| Nuohan | Yes, as I talked in mail, I just want to merge some test cases related to LTP | 12:59 |
| jeremiah | yep, should be no problem. | 12:59 |
| Nuohan | thank you all guys | 13:00 |
| jeremiah | Thank yoU! | 13:00 |
| * jeremiah goes back to cave | 13:00 | |
| louai | jeremiah: before your cave trip, are you going to be in berlin? :) | 13:00 |
| waltminer | === AGL Dev Meeting Ends === | 13:00 |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: Before I disappear, are you still not able to push? | 13:00 |
| waltminer | Thanks everyone | 13:00 |
| jeremiah | louai: I'm not but members of my company are, like Johan Thelin | 13:01 |
| CTtpollard | jeremiah: '/browserpatch/demoui/qml/demoui$ git push origin master FATAL: W any browser-poc tompollard DENIED by fallthru | 13:01 |
| CTtpollard | (or you mis-spelled the reponame) | 13:01 |
| CTtpollard | fatal: Could not read from remote repository. | 13:01 |
| CTtpollard | ' | 13:01 |
| CTtpollard | I definitely don't have W on it | 13:01 |
| jeremiah | AH, okay | 13:01 |
| jeremiah | louai: Berlin looks like it will be a very interesting summit. | 13:01 |
| louai | jeremiah: oh, I am expecting a large Pelagicore presence, but was wondering whether you'd be there too - maybe next time | 13:02 |
| louai | jeremiah: indeed, I should start working on my talk... | 13:02 |
| jeremiah | louai: I have to be in Dublin for ELCE. | 13:02 |
| jeremiah | Which should be fun, not *as* fun, but . . . | 13:03 |
| jbocklage | Berlin? I cannot find info here: https://www.automotivelinux.org/news/events | 13:03 |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: can you show me your remotes? like 'git remote -v show' or similar | 13:03 |
| louai | jeremiah: right, I need a clone machine... Dublin is also tempting | 13:03 |
| louai | jbocklage: http://www.qtworldsummit.com/ | 13:03 |
| jeremiah | jbocklage: http://www.qtworldsummit.com | 13:04 |
| CTtpollard | jeremiah: git remote -v | 13:04 |
| jeremiah | Oj | 13:04 |
| CTtpollard | originssh://git-genivi@git.projects.genivi.org/browser-poc.git (fetch) | 13:04 |
| CTtpollard | originssh://git-genivi@git.projects.genivi.org/browser-poc.git (push) | 13:04 |
| CTtpollard | I know I don't have W on the repo, the ssh user tells me that :) | 13:04 |
| jeremiah | I'm sure you're right, but I explicitly put you in the Network EG which has write on that. Hmm. | 13:04 |
| CTtpollard | :/ | 13:05 |
| louai | oh I forgot, in Santa Clara I mentioned our git extensions, they are here: http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtrepotools.git/tree/bin | 13:06 |
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| louai | the g in git-gpush is short for gerrit | 13:06 |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: May I ask you to try now? | 13:08 |
| CTtpollard | jeremiah: \o/ | 13:09 |
| CTtpollard | sonw | 13:09 |
| CTtpollard | *done | 13:09 |
| jeremiah | yay! | 13:10 |
| CTtpollard | thanks jeremiah | 13:10 |
| jeremiah | Sorry it too so long. ;/ | 13:10 |
| CTtpollard | jeremiah: no worries :) | 13:10 |
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| jeremiah | louai: Thanks for the link to the repo tools, I'll definitely check those out. I find the web interface to gerrit, um, klunky. | 13:15 |
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| waltminer | New high water mark. First time I have seen more than 50 on the channel | 14:02 |
| CTtpollard | cool | 14:21 |
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| fredcadete | desperate question: has anyone tried building the GDP for two variants of R-Car? | 14:33 |
| fredcadete | e.g porter and lager | 14:33 |
| fredcadete | I am trying to do that using the same work directory and am getting veery obscure errors | 14:33 |
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| jonathanmaw | fredcadete: I've built it for the porter and koelsch | 14:34 |
| jonathanmaw | (though the koelsch is a cheat, since it's similar enough to the porter that all the drivers work) | 14:35 |
| fredcadete | jonathanmaw: yes, there will be no problems with the drivers | 14:35 |
| fredcadete | jonathanmaw: but I am also having issues with dependencies coming from the kernel | 14:36 |
| fredcadete | as in, node-state-manager being rebuilt | 14:36 |
| fredcadete | among others | 14:36 |
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| steve_l | fredcadete: Personally I tend to maintain seperate Poky's and re-use the downloads. With a build server and inherit in your local.conf its not a big hardship | 15:44 |
| steve_l | In the past I also had success re-using the sstate. | 15:44 |
| steve_l | But not tried in a while | 15:44 |
| fredcadete | steve_l: thanks a lot | 15:44 |
| steve_l | For GDP a minor change is required to generalise it for all R-Car Gen 2s. | 15:45 |
| steve_l | I recently did E2 Silk and have a patch to upstream. | 15:45 |
| fredcadete | steve_l: what do you mean by "inherit in your local.conf"? | 15:45 |
| fredcadete | E2 vs M2 should be OK, it's when you get to H2 that the gl drivers change and it becomes a bit more complicated | 15:46 |
| steve_l | gl drivers change for E2 as well :) | 15:46 |
| fredcadete | ! | 15:46 |
| steve_l | only change for H2 is SGX becomes RGX in local.conf but if I recall correct package names remain the same | 15:47 |
| steve_l | E2, M2, H2 each have different GPUs for their target market | 15:48 |
| steve_l | By inherit I meant <INHERIT += "rm_work"> in your local.conf to save space | 15:49 |
| steve_l | LBS/FSA/Navit recipes did have an inter-dependency issue that was not properly handled. FSA I think required a file that would be deleted. | 15:49 |
| steve_l | Workaround is to add navit to the exlude list if you use the inherit, i.e. <RM_WORK_EXCLUDE += "navit"> | 15:50 |
| steve_l | Remove the angle brackets of course :) | 15:50 |
| fredcadete | oh, rm_work, thanks | 15:51 |
| fredcadete | I try to avoid rm_work on the build servers because then it doubles as a quick reference point for work directories | 15:52 |
| fredcadete | on developer PC's we all use it, though | 15:52 |
| steve_l | yes, rm_work is more instructive than inherit.. | 15:53 |
| steve_l | The patch I mentioned just replaced the IMAGE_INSTALL appends in /recipes-demo-platform/images/genivi-demo-platform.bb for koelsch/porter with the override rcar-gen2 | 15:54 |
| steve_l | must admit not tried lager yet though.. | 15:54 |
| steve_l | with latest code | 15:54 |
| fredcadete | I'm not sure if the problems I have come from the BSP or from my distro's stuff | 15:55 |
| steve_l | Looking at the multimedia patches was first on my list but I can try a build sometime. | 15:55 |
| steve_l | I suggest trying with a seperate work dir.. | 15:56 |
| fredcadete | yes, I am getting to that conclusion | 15:57 |
| fredcadete | at least qt I saw that qmake keeps references to the sysroot where it was first configured | 15:57 |
| fredcadete | which is a bit dangerous to say the least | 15:57 |
| fredcadete | qtbase also tries to autodetect if opengles3 is available | 15:58 |
| fredcadete | so everything qt can't be shared between different builds anyway | 15:58 |
| steve_l | Yes it can become quite a big distro's worth of dependecies. When I started with Yocto I also shared as you are but after talking to various ppl who live Yocto from WRS etc | 15:58 |
| steve_l | the advice seemed to be use poky per machine | 15:59 |
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| fredcadete | from this yocto man-page, they seem to be wanting to share more: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#building-images-for-more-than-one-machine | 15:59 |
| fredcadete | though I'm not sure how much is just for different tunes and how much is for heavier differences | 16:00 |
| steve_l | It's a good goal I think. Multi-arch kernel for example. I note their warning about dependencies. | 16:02 |
| steve_l | I don't think its a strict no-no just that you may face some unexpected behaviour. That said of course goal should be good recipes | 16:02 |
| fredcadete | :) I saw the warning but I felt strong and optimistic when I started | 16:03 |
| fredcadete | now I see what they meant | 16:03 |
| steve_l | Ideally we would all be good scouts, find the cause and fix the recipes or at least raise a ticket in their tracker. | 16:04 |
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| fredcadete | steve_l: by the way, speaking of those IMAGE_INSTALL appends, I proposed a patch in libgbm so that installing libgbm-dev should not be necessary | 16:21 |
| fredcadete | https://github.com/thayama/libgbm/issues/1 | 16:21 |
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| steve_l | fredcadete: sorry was afk. OK. thanks for the patch. I see Hayama-san already responded. I have another to discuss with him in the next weeks. I'll include this | 16:33 |
| steve_l | you picked the right upstream btw. I'll be seeing what to pull in downstream | 16:34 |
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