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| AlisonChaiken | paulsherwood for your amusement: | 04:56 |
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| AlisonChaiken | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-Pop-Companies-List | 04:56 |
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| jeremiah | ohai! | 07:26 |
| jeremiah | I won't make the TT meeting on IRC today, apologies. | 07:26 |
| jeremiah | Ctpollard: Is everything all set with the browser PoC or do you need more from me? | 07:27 |
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| Tarnyko | hi | 09:12 |
| CTtpollard | good morning | 09:13 |
| Tarnyko | I just sent a mail to the ML, demonstrating the type of test suite which we could have on the AGL platform image : http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/automotive-discussions/2015-September/000819.html (it is "wayland-fits") | 09:16 |
| Tarnyko | jeremiah: hi Jeremiah :) ! ^^ Just answered back, please tell me what you think if you have 1 min | 09:17 |
| Tarnyko | (ho, and I need to clarify, I am "Manuel Bachmann" actually) | 09:19 |
| jeremiah | I think we change browser-poc | 09:21 |
| CTtpollard | ? | 09:22 |
| jeremiah | Tarnyko: Looks great. :-) How can I reproduce for the Porter board? | 09:53 |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: Sorry, I think I'm having some pebkac issues. | 09:53 |
| Tarnyko | jeremiah: saw your answer :). I am doing a small setup, so you can get it running easily | 09:57 |
| jeremiah | w00t! | 10:01 |
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| Tarnyko | jeremiah: answered ! | 10:17 |
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| Tarnyko | jeremiah: by the way, I had a patch for something other (building the AGL QEMU image with Yocto 1.8), and I tried to push it for review by doing "git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master" (I have an account). It doesn't work, maybe I need additonal rights for that ? | 10:32 |
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| paulsherwood | GENIVI tools team meeting wil lbe here in just under 30 mins... | 12:36 |
| gunnarx | If you've heard me rant about bitbake being buggy in its fetch when using a local source mirror... | 12:40 |
| gunnarx | Then it's documented here already: | 12:40 |
| gunnarx | https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/How_do_I#Q:_How_do_I_create_my_own_source_download_mirror_.3F | 12:40 |
| gunnarx | Specifically the quote "So don't specify SRC_URI like this:" SRC_URI = "git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/kernel/kmod/kmod.git;protocol=git;tag=v${PV}" | 12:41 |
| gunnarx | which is exactly what we do in meta-ivi for 4-5 components and precisely those are failing in my BB_NO_NETWORK setup | 12:41 |
| gunnarx | If those are converted to SRCREV = <hash> the bug (imho it's a bug anyway) is not triggered. | 12:42 |
| gunnarx | but using TAG=$PV seems useful I think | 12:42 |
| paulsherwood | which suggests that the folks doign the work maybe did not read all the documentation... which is perhaps unsurprising given it's over 1000 pages :) | 12:43 |
| gunnarx | do you mean I have not read it? :) | 12:48 |
| gunnarx | It's true up until recently... :-/ | 12:48 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: i confess, i'm not going to read it | 12:49 |
| gunnarx | A few things to notice. First this is a wiki and not the manual, so not as authoritative. | 12:49 |
| paulsherwood | i was referring to the 'mega-manual' | 12:50 |
| gunnarx | Yes, but it that then means that it's not certain the Wiki's "don't do that" is actually describing real best practice. | 12:51 |
| gunnarx | I've looked and it seems that poky uses almost exclusively SRCREV = <commit hash> everywhere. So for them that is best practice, apparently... | 12:51 |
| paulsherwood | i read somewhere that there's no such thing as 'best practice' really... | 12:51 |
| gunnarx | tag=$PV makes sense in theory, it means you just have to rename the recipe to bump the version up - everything else should then be automatic. | 12:52 |
| paulsherwood | just better, and worse :) | 12:52 |
| gunnarx | word games :) I'm serious about that local mirror should work - see no reason for the behavior of going to the network simply because a lightweight tag is specified in the recipe instead of a hash. | 12:53 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: ok, so is your recommendation that genivi should create its mirror by running bitbake, and publish the results from there? | 12:54 |
| gunnarx | not making a recommendation at this point, just trying options | 12:54 |
| gunnarx | By the way if you publish a mirror over http, there is no bug. | 12:55 |
| gunnarx | well, it depends. You can't run with BB_NO_NETWORK flag anyway since your mirror is on a network. The recently added BB_ALLOWED_NETWORKS (sp?) could limit to your local network only, and I presume the bug is triggered also then, but not sure. | 12:57 |
| paulsherwood | == GENIVI Tools Team Meeting Starts == | 13:00 |
| paulsherwood | hi folks... | 13:00 |
| gunnarx | hi | 13:00 |
| paulsherwood | proposed agenda is here https://genivi-oss.atlassian.net/wiki/display/TOOL/TT-minutes-20150921 | 13:00 |
| paulsherwood | anyone have additions? | 13:00 |
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| paulsherwood | i guess we could discuss whether folks preferred the return to telephone last week :) | 13:01 |
| gunnarx | source mirroring? :) | 13:01 |
| paulsherwood | can add that, ok | 13:01 |
| paulsherwood | anything else? | 13:01 |
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| gunnarx | More generally, is CIAT topic no longer a topic? | 13:01 |
| paulsherwood | i woud do it under automated testing | 13:02 |
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| paulsherwood | the agenda items are taken from the charter | 13:02 |
| paulsherwood | (well most of them) | 13:02 |
| gunnarx | ok, let's do that | 13:02 |
| paulsherwood | ok... | 13:02 |
| paulsherwood | = Confluence Progress = | 13:03 |
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| * paulsherwood notices joel is not here | 13:03 | |
| paulsherwood | any other progress to report on this? | 13:03 |
| paulsherwood | i see some pages being updated | 13:03 |
| paulsherwood | well https://genivi-oss.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2785416 | 13:04 |
| paulsherwood | in general i'll take silence as a justification to move onto next topic? :) | 13:04 |
| paulsherwood | i wonder if it's only you and me today, gunnarx | 13:05 |
| * steve_l waves | 13:05 | |
| pavelk | any updates on by when a stable url will be available? | 13:05 |
| klausbirken | I am here, too. Just silent. | 13:05 |
| * waltminer is here | 13:05 | |
| paulsherwood | welcome all :-) | 13:05 |
| * Bjoern_ is, too. | 13:05 | |
| gunnarx | maybe a roll call is a good idea | 13:05 |
| paulsherwood | pavelk: last i heard is there would be a further report at tomorrow's pmo | 13:05 |
| * paulsherwood takes note to do rollcall in future | 13:06 | |
| paulsherwood | any other comments on confluence? | 13:06 |
| steve_l | its getting nearer to the top of my todo list | 13:06 |
| paulsherwood | :-) | 13:06 |
| gunnarx | no, same as before. Everyone can fill in content, but not rely on the URL. For me those are independent things but others think differently. | 13:06 |
| pavelk | gunnarx: "/who #channel" | 13:07 |
| paulsherwood | well, i'm using it, won't be returning to mediawiki | 13:07 |
| paulsherwood | pavelk: that doesn't necessarily mean much :) | 13:07 |
| gunnarx | pavelk, I'm not sure that's what we mean by attendees :) | 13:07 |
| pavelk | paulsherwood: meaning of data is a tricky business | 13:07 |
| paulsherwood | for example jeremiah expressly noted he can't attend | 13:08 |
| gunnarx | pavelk, maybe it was a joke? | 13:08 |
| paulsherwood | anyways... shall we move on? | 13:08 |
| pavelk | gunnarx: no, I am dead serious :-) | 13:08 |
| steve_l | aye | 13:08 |
| gunnarx | He uses a bouncer I bet | 13:08 |
| gunnarx | +1 move on | 13:08 |
| paulsherwood | = Build Tools = | 13:08 |
| paulsherwood | steve_l: was there some movement on the generated code topic in bit last week? | 13:09 |
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| steve_l | no | 13:09 |
| paulsherwood | ok | 13:09 |
| steve_l | no substantive input on topic from baseline maintainers | 13:09 |
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| steve_l | so seems on hold until their is external input | 13:10 |
| paulsherwood | ack | 13:10 |
| paulsherwood | any other comments wrt build tools? | 13:10 |
| * paulsherwood notes, as an aside, that we decided to use jira , but doesn't think we've actually started to do so yet | 13:11 | |
| gunnarx | paulsherwood, is the plan to transfer the trello cards then? | 13:11 |
| paulsherwood | we could do that. i guess that's an action on me :) | 13:12 |
| paulsherwood | ACTION: PS transfer trello cards to Jira | 13:12 |
| paulsherwood | anything on build tools? or move on? | 13:12 |
| paulsherwood | = UML Modeling = | 13:13 |
| * paulsherwood hands over to UML experts for this.... | 13:14 | |
| * paulsherwood notices that silences are less likely on the phonecalls | 13:15 | |
| klausbirken | Nothing new on UML from my side... | 13:15 |
| klausbirken | Maybe Bjoern? | 13:15 |
| Manfred_ | sorry guys - first day after holiday | 13:15 |
| gunnarx | Not sure if we have any identified open topic in this area? | 13:15 |
| gunnarx | You said you had just taken the agenda from the tools charter (which is a list of _potential_ topics I presume?) | 13:15 |
| klausbirken | However, some news on Franca: Trademarks issues are resolved now - Franca could move on to eclipse.org. | 13:15 |
| paulsherwood | klausbirken: w00t! :) | 13:15 |
| Manfred_ | have some news about about Franca validation - the OSS approval for my patches are under way | 13:16 |
| klausbirken | I am currently reading a lot of documents… to prepare the migration. | 13:16 |
| pavelk | which means that all links will have to move ... again? | 13:16 |
| * gunnarx notices silence is broken | 13:16 | |
| Manfred_ | great new Klaus | 13:16 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: correct. however if the charter items were not generating any discussion in general, i would wonder if we consider modifying the charter | 13:16 |
| klausbirken | pavelk: Probably not all links, I try to keep the repos on github. | 13:16 |
| gunnarx | paulsherwood, the charter is like a constitution. It can be modified, but only after a long mismatch. :) | 13:17 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: ack | 13:17 |
| klausbirken | But we have to expect that many links will change…esp. package names etc. will have to be changed org.franca.* => org.eclipse.franca.* :-( | 13:17 |
| pavelk | paulsherwood: charter is about the scope; active projects come and go | 13:17 |
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| paulsherwood | pavelk: ack, also :) | 13:17 |
| gunnarx | Manfred_, what's in the pipe, can you share? | 13:17 |
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| pavelk | klausbirken: or dear... | 13:17 |
| Manfred_ | Klaus: any time plan for the migration | 13:18 |
| pavelk | correction: "s/or/oh/" | 13:18 |
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| gunnarx | Manfred_: what are your patches related to? | 13:19 |
| klausbirken | pavelk: But this should be doable with a full-text-search-and-replace tool… | 13:19 |
| gunnarx | sed :) | 13:19 |
| paulsherwood | klausbirken: i hope you have a smoother process than the confluence migration :) | 13:19 |
| pavelk | klausbirken: well, I don't have much to find and replace yet, ;-), but I am will have soon | 13:19 |
| paulsherwood | ok, any more on UML, or shall we move forward? | 13:20 |
| klausbirken | Nothing more from my side. | 13:20 |
| paulsherwood | thanks | 13:20 |
| paulsherwood | = Debugging and Analysis = | 13:20 |
| Manfred_ | gunnar: I´ve done some corrections to the original FrancaValidator Jscripts for Enterprise Architect i can share with that approval. Those patches lead me to a completely new approach which covers new validation use cases. The new approach can go OSS after the approval got signed too. | 13:21 |
| gunnarx | OK, thanks | 13:21 |
| paulsherwood | Manfred_: cool! :) | 13:21 |
| Manfred_ | klaus: any time plan for the migration to eclipse? this year or next year? | 13:21 |
| paulsherwood | fwiw i can't remember if we've ever had any discussion about debugging and analysis so far? | 13:22 |
| klausbirken | Manfred_: Definitely this year. But no detailed plans yet. | 13:22 |
| paulsherwood | this seems like the lost topic of TT | 13:22 |
| paulsherwood | i do note in passing that there's been some work to integrate wayland debugging into GDP | 13:23 |
| paulsherwood | CTtpollard: ^? | 13:23 |
| pavelk | paulsherwood: we had touched upoin this last week with Andreas Warnke mentioning the possibility for Elektrobit to share their tool | 13:23 |
| gunnarx | Debug & Analysis, it's basically part of the expectations on a shared dev environment / SDK | 13:23 |
| Bjoern_ | sorry guys, I guess irc just doesn't work for me very well. But I don't have any open topics about UML atm. | 13:23 |
| paulsherwood | Bjoern_: fair enough. i think you are not alone. maybe in general the participants here prefer phone | 13:24 |
| CTtpollard | we have been working with wayland debug and gdp yes | 13:24 |
| gunnarx | CTtpollard, quick summary? | 13:24 |
| Manfred_ | well UML seems a quite graphical topic to me | 13:24 |
| paulsherwood | i'd be happy to do phone and log on irc (as last week) but if i'm actually discussing in a phone call i find it difficult to type much | 13:24 |
| paulsherwood | (as demonstrated by last week's minutes) | 13:25 |
| paulsherwood | maybe CTtpollard can comment later | 13:26 |
| paulsherwood | any more on debugging and analysis? | 13:26 |
| CTtpollard | gunnarx: I'm trying to provide a fix for initial app freezing issues between hmi-controller & ivi-extension | 13:26 |
| CTtpollard | sorry I got pulled aside then | 13:27 |
| gunnarx | CTtpollard. Understood, and in that process you are improving debugability / tools also? | 13:27 |
| gunnarx | or did I misunderstand... | 13:27 |
| paulsherwood | CTtpollard: iiuc you've added recipe for wayland debug? | 13:28 |
| CTtpollard | gunnarx: I've managed to get wayland_debug integrated, which can be helpful | 13:28 |
| paulsherwood | maybe that would be useful for other gdp users | 13:28 |
| gunnarx | ok, got it | 13:28 |
| CTtpollard | paulsherwood: yes I have a buildable gdp system that has wayland debug tool added to it, it's not from upstream but could be useful | 13:29 |
| paulsherwood | well, you're the maintainer... so you decide :-) | 13:30 |
| paulsherwood | i propose to move on | 13:30 |
| CTtpollard | I would add it to poky, if anything | 13:30 |
| CTtpollard | but yes | 13:30 |
| paulsherwood | = Automated Testing = | 13:30 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: source mirroring? iirc the previous upshot was you and/or jeremiah would look into yocto upstream approach on this? | 13:31 |
| paulsherwood | in other news, i notice that AGL has its jenkins live now... https://build.automotivelinux.org | 13:33 |
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| paulsherwood | and there has been some discussion about automated testing on AGL lists | 13:34 |
| * steve_l wonders how they are dealing with the gfx. Maybe its private to the CI. | 13:34 | |
| paulsherwood | steve_l: nothing for that yet, iiuc | 13:35 |
| paulsherwood | waltminer: will all CI be public for AGL? | 13:35 |
| steve_l | that would be a solution :) | 13:35 |
| gunnarx | paulsherwood, sorry got distracted | 13:35 |
| paulsherwood | np | 13:35 |
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| gunnarx | Yes iirc jeremiah had an action to check with upstream. In the meantime I have made investigations on my own. I think I'm ready to post a message to ask about the fetch bug mentioned before the meeting started. | 13:36 |
| gunnarx | s/upstream/The Yocto Project/ | 13:37 |
| Bjoern_ | soryr guys, have to leave now. | 13:37 |
| Bjoern_ | bye | 13:37 |
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| paulsherwood | Bjoern_: bye for now :) | 13:37 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: ok, so no recommendations yet? | 13:37 |
| gunnarx | Any experience from AGL setup so far? | 13:38 |
| gunnarx | Is it Jenkins only or also Gerrit? | 13:38 |
| paulsherwood | Jenkins + Gerrit | 13:39 |
| gunnarx | I'm curious primarily on Gerrit experiences. Some are/were negative to Gerrit... | 13:39 |
| gunnarx | in terms of usability. | 13:39 |
| steve_l | gunnar: I've learnt to be somewhat careful about the wiki. Some it is crusty, so I think an email would be the right approach | 13:39 |
| paulsherwood | it's some friction to get started (ie as a new user, need to get permissions etc, and ui is complex) | 13:40 |
| gunnarx | steve_l, don't get the context of your response. Gerrit? An email for what, patches? | 13:40 |
| paulsherwood | but once the initial pain is over it works | 13:40 |
| gunnarx | what wiki? | 13:40 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: i think he means yocto | 13:40 |
| steve_l | yep | 13:41 |
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| paulsherwood | eg https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/4065/ jenkins has built and given a +1 | 13:41 |
| gunnarx | ah, ok you were referring far back. I get it now. | 13:41 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: he's suggesting how to approach yocto upstream | 13:41 |
| * steve_l withdraws until current sub-topic (Gerrit) is finished | 13:42 | |
| gunnarx | Gerrit UI really is not that nice... | 13:42 |
| gunnarx | But it sure beats having nothing | 13:42 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: there are commmand line tools which allow folks to ignore the ui apparently | 13:43 |
| gunnarx | paulsherwood, have you continued to promote combined AGL/GENIVI infra in this area? | 13:43 |
| paulsherwood | for better or worse i think gerrit is the only game in town for code review in this context | 13:43 |
| gunnarx | no that's not right | 13:43 |
| paulsherwood | ok... how else would you propose to integrate code review into ci, gunnarx ? (foss...)/ | 13:44 |
| gunnarx | is gerrit superior to all alternatives, or you think there are no alternatives? | 13:44 |
| paulsherwood | i think there are no credible alternatives, but i can always be wrong | 13:44 |
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| paulsherwood | (point being, gerrit handles creation of candidates to push through ci, so you can do pre-merge testing) | 13:46 |
| gunnarx | phabricator, gitlab, atlassian-whatever-it's-called, | 13:46 |
| gunnarx | ok atlassian maybe not foss | 13:46 |
| gunnarx | I thought we have had this discussion already. Let's structure this. Are we trying to reach TT consensus on what are good alternatives? | 13:46 |
| gunnarx | paulsherwood, yes, that workflow support is good from gerrit | 13:46 |
| paulsherwood | iiuc the other alternatives are post-merge | 13:46 |
| gunnarx | ok, I have not checked that | 13:46 |
| KlausUhl | What would be the alternatives to Gerrit? | 13:47 |
| KlausUhl | Sorry, I have missed the line above. | 13:47 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: 'Are we trying to reach TT consensus on what are good alternatives?' - i think so, but i don't know how to achieve it | 13:48 |
| gunnarx | Either timebox the discussion and we have it now, here on this meeting | 13:48 |
| gunnarx | or assign action to analyze and come back with a report | 13:48 |
| paulsherwood | which is preferred? | 13:48 |
| gunnarx | you're leading the meeting | 13:49 |
| paulsherwood | yes, i suppose i am | 13:49 |
| gunnarx | :) | 13:50 |
| paulsherwood | i'll write to the list with my preliminary thoughts, seek feedback on that | 13:50 |
| gunnarx | good start | 13:50 |
| paulsherwood | ACTION: PS write on code review options for CI | 13:50 |
| paulsherwood | 14:43 < gunnarx> paulsherwood, have you continued to promote combined AGL/GENIVI infra in this area? | 13:50 |
| paulsherwood | wrt the above, yes but i don't think i'm succeeding (in either forum) | 13:51 |
| gunnarx | yes :) that sounds like an important consideration | 13:51 |
| gunnarx | I thought I saw Walt online? | 13:52 |
| gunnarx | don't see him now... | 13:52 |
| paulsherwood | yes he was | 13:52 |
| paulsherwood | anyway time is passing... | 13:52 |
| paulsherwood | = AOB = | 13:52 |
| paulsherwood | ? | 13:52 |
| klausbirken | No AOB from here… | 13:53 |
| paulsherwood | from my pov, ELCE is approaching... are there any engineer attendees who would be willing to join the automotive collaboration panel? | 13:53 |
| gunnarx | I'm likely not attending I'm afraid... :( | 13:53 |
| paulsherwood | shucks | 13:53 |
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| gunnarx | The LF fees are too high. There I said it. | 13:54 |
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| pavelk | paulsherwood: I plan to go to elce. What is the subject for the panel? | 13:54 |
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| paulsherwood | view from the trenches on software collaboration in automotive | 13:54 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: i think genivi fees are just as high? :) | 13:55 |
| paulsherwood | ACTION: PS request panel members on list | 13:55 |
| pavelk | paulsherwood: doom and gloom; does not work that well if you ask me :-( | 13:55 |
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| paulsherwood | pavelk: i'm reaching the same conclusion lately, tbh. are you interested to take that discussion at the conference? | 13:56 |
| gunnarx | maybe, I haven't checked the GENIVI fees. Me+colleagues attendance is included in membership fee. | 13:56 |
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| paulsherwood | gunnarx: ack | 13:56 |
| * paulsherwood has a plane to catch... ao aob? | 13:56 | |
| pavelk | paulsherwood: don't know yet, let's discuss offline | 13:56 |
| gunnarx | not from me | 13:56 |
| paulsherwood | pavelk: ok, will do | 13:56 |
| pavelk | nothing from me | 13:56 |
| paulsherwood | ok, thanks all | 13:57 |
| paulsherwood | == GENIVI Tools Team Meeting Ends == | 13:57 |
| klausbirken | Thanks, Paul. Bye, all. | 13:58 |
| steve_l | gunnar: I'm not sure the yocto wiki is referring to a fetch bug. They are just flagging behaviour.. | 14:00 |
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| gunnarx | steve_l, I agree, they are flagging behavior and saying "don't do this". As I said above, that's not really an authoritative instruction. | 14:01 |
| gunnarx | waltminer, we missed you during the meeting :) | 14:02 |
| gunnarx | steve_l: Then, I claim that it's a bug. | 14:02 |
| steve_l | well dont do this if you want to be untethered I guess :) | 14:02 |
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| gunnarx | steve_l: And I have made some speculation about what should be considered best practice. One interesting piece of evidence is that poky devs are using SRCREV= on everything | 14:03 |
| steve_l | but yes, just providing a tag along does lead to a behaviour that can be painful in certain corporate environments | 14:03 |
| steve_l | agree SHA is preferred | 14:03 |
| gunnarx | steve_l, what are those problems? Are you saying.. | 14:03 |
| gunnarx | oh ok, you're saying SHA is preferred | 14:03 |
| steve_l | a tag *alone* | 14:03 |
| steve_l | with just a tag bitbake has to go out to the git rep to check that it has not moved. That's the behaviour. A feature of git. | 14:04 |
| gunnarx | to me a tag=$PV looks like a useful practice. It simplifies upgrades by just renaming the recipe. | 14:04 |
| gunnarx | steve_l, yes, I have speculated that that is the intention, to check that it hasn't moved | 14:05 |
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| steve_l | Agreed on tag. It's much more readable, but has the associated side effect | 14:05 |
| gunnarx | is that reasonable? The local mirror also has an opinion about what the tag points to, is that a less correct answer? | 14:05 |
| steve_l | what is reasonable? tag=$PV? | 14:06 |
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| gunnarx | is it reasonable to expect tags to move I mean | 14:06 |
| steve_l | It's bad practise in an upstream but can occur, hence for correct dependency checking bitbake must check it no? | 14:07 |
| gunnarx | what's to say that you prefer to follow upstream if it changes :) | 14:07 |
| waltminer | gunnarx I missed you too, but I can’t follow this even back scrolling | 14:08 |
| steve_l | then defo right the receipe for that and accept that it will go out to check | 14:08 |
| gunnarx | that makes things quite unpredictable... will bitbake warn about it moving or just go on? | 14:08 |
| waltminer | then I wander off to get coffee | 14:08 |
| steve_l | I believe go on (should be straight forward to check) else your approach for following upstram would quickly become painful, but the rebuild would show in the log and task list | 14:10 |
| gunnarx | waltminer, no problem, we were discussing tooling and then I wondered if shared infrastructure was still on the agenda, paulsherwood was not sure what the organizations want | 14:10 |
| gunnarx | waltminer, gerrit and jenkins up and running at AGL - a good start | 14:10 |
| gunnarx | steve_l, anyhow I think asking yocto devs opinions is the right thing now - it will clarify what to expect in this area | 14:10 |
| waltminer | thanks | 14:11 |
| waltminer | Shared infrastructure in terms of using the same tools would be great | 14:11 |
| steve_l | agreed they are nice helpful peeps. I would ask them generally in terms of "we are an oss who wants to do a mirror" advice anyway | 14:11 |
| gunnarx | steve_l, will do | 14:12 |
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