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| weston | hi good morning all | 06:18 |
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| paulsherwood | hi! :) | 06:31 |
| weston | here is the weston log during boot up. http://pastebin.com/sWaimMZB radiofree please check | 06:31 |
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| weston | paulsherwood: hows going today? | 06:48 |
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| radiofree | weston: you're still loading the weston.ini that loads ivi-controller (which seemed to go ok) | 07:52 |
| paulsherwood | radiofree: sadly weston appears to have dropped off again | 07:53 |
| radiofree | this is what you need to do: i) move the weston.ini in /home/root to something *not* called weston.ini ii) check the egl examples in a default weston session | 07:53 |
| radiofree | oh | 07:53 |
| JEEB | I think he was in #wayland just now | 07:53 |
| JEEB | nope, he dropped there as well | 07:53 |
| JEEB | :/ | 07:53 |
| paulsherwood | this interweb thing is never gonna take off :) | 07:54 |
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| weston | please see the weston log when openvt -s -- weston --log=/home/root/temp.log --backend=fbdev-backend.so is given -> http://pastebin.com/aSnUBAkk | 08:14 |
| radiofree | [08:52:40] <radiofree> weston: you're still loading the weston.ini that loads ivi-controller (which seemed to go ok) | 08:15 |
| radiofree | [08:53:31] <radiofree> this is what you need to do: i) move the weston.ini in /home/root to something *not* called weston.ini ii) check the egl examples in a default weston session | 08:15 |
| radiofree | fbdev backend won't work with egl clients, not unless you have a suitably old mesa with egl_gallium (really slow on arm) or a suitably new mesa with the swrast dri driver (probably really slow on arm...) | 08:16 |
| weston | radiofree: truing | 08:22 |
| weston | *trying | 08:22 |
| weston | radiofree: tried..weston-flower is not up and display is not up .. see the log http://pastebin.com/WUgsrwKE | 08:24 |
| radiofree | use the drm-backend | 08:25 |
| radiofree | backend=drm-backend.so | 08:26 |
| radiofree | and weston,[09:00:07.322] Using config file '/home/root/weston.ini' | 08:26 |
| radiofree | <radiofree> this is what you need to do: i) move the weston.ini in /home/root to something *not* called weston.ini ii) check the egl examples in a default weston session | 08:26 |
| weston | radiofree: oops | 08:26 |
| weston | pasted wrong log | 08:26 |
| weston | radiofree: see http://pastebin.com/KsR5VMcT | 08:28 |
| weston | radiofree: need to move /etc/xdg/weston/weston.ini ? | 08:29 |
| radiofree | you need to be able to analyse these logs yourself, you do understand the goal here right? to check a *stock* weston and to see if your EGL backend is working | 08:29 |
| radiofree | weston: exactly! | 08:29 |
| weston | radiofree: okay | 08:29 |
| weston | radiofree: hold | 08:29 |
| weston | radiofree: even after deleting /etc/xdg/weston/weston.ini, still it is replaced afetr boot up | 08:33 |
| weston | :( | 08:33 |
| radiofree | you don't need to reboot each time, just kill weston and start it from a command line | 08:36 |
| weston | radiofree: ext2 is crashed now | 08:38 |
| weston | please hold | 08:38 |
| radiofree | weston: listen to pq, he's one of the developers | 08:39 |
| weston | radiofree: oh ok | 08:40 |
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| * paulsherwood feels like he is having a senior moment.... | 12:55 | |
| rjek | Have you had a fall? | 12:55 |
| paulsherwood | has the genivi pmo meeting moved to a new time? i'm pretty sure it would normally be starting now... but the calendar shows it an hour later | 12:56 |
| paulsherwood | and this coupled with walt telling me yesterday that i messed up the calendar invites for tools team meeting is melting my brain somewhat | 12:57 |
| paulsherwood | no falls so far, though :) | 12:57 |
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| * rjek wonders at what age it changes from "tripping over" to "having a fall" | 13:00 | |
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| * paulsherwood doesn't want to think about that | 13:03 | |
| rjek | :) | 13:04 |
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| paulsherwood | jonathanmaw: i've volunteered you officially now https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/subsystem/agl-build-release | 13:50 |
| paulsherwood | :) | 13:50 |
| jonathanmaw | :) | 13:53 |
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| waltminer | GotoMeeting started for AGL layer meeting | 13:59 |
| paulsherwood | tanikawa-san has started initial release, is waitign for Yocto final build and check... hopes to have something later today | 14:04 |
| paulsherwood | just includes yocto poky | 14:05 |
| paulsherwood | boots to weston | 14:05 |
| paulsherwood | no packages in it yet | 14:05 |
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| paulsherwood | meta-agl has only base image and package group recipes placeholder | 14:07 |
| paulsherwood | checked on QEMU and x86_64 | 14:08 |
| paulsherwood | what is the status of the package work list? | 14:08 |
| paulsherwood | is it still the same as the list proposed by tanikawa-san | 14:09 |
| paulsherwood | wm: plan was to get this into git and start from there | 14:09 |
| paulsherwood | wm: no build-out yet... see https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/admin/projects/ | 14:10 |
| paulsherwood | tanikawa-san will begin pushing things today/tomorrow | 14:10 |
| paulsherwood | we need someone to do bsp | 14:11 |
| paulsherwood | meething has switched to japanese | 14:14 |
| * paulsherwood can no longer detail what is happening in the discussion | 14:15 | |
| waltminer | paulsherwood should have paid more attention to Japanese lessons | 14:15 |
| paulsherwood | rofl | 14:15 |
| paulsherwood | i'm from hartlepool. i had enough trouble learning english | 14:16 |
| paulsherwood | tanikawa-san has been working with renesas and agreeing the work | 14:17 |
| weston | paulsherwood: here here | 14:19 |
| paulsherwood | several japanese participants may work together, and it's simpler to co-ordinate that in japanese obviously | 14:19 |
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| paulsherwood | ps asked if we can clarify what the areas are that the japanese participants want to focus on, others can look at the other areas and the gaps | 14:20 |
| paulsherwood | question is where should this task breakdown/list be published | 14:20 |
| paulsherwood | wm suggests jira | 14:21 |
| paulsherwood | ps asks if participants can now fill in the subteam pages on the wiki | 14:24 |
| paulsherwood | either directly on the wiki, or by sending email to walt | 14:25 |
| paulsherwood | (it's always harder to get people to do wiki, than work on the software!) | 14:25 |
| paulsherwood | it is agreed we clarify roles on the wiki, and then can use jira for task tracking? | 14:26 |
| waltminer | yes | 14:27 |
| paulsherwood | ok | 14:27 |
| * paulsherwood dreams of moving the meeting to irc, agaon :-) | 14:29 | |
| * weston confused about the kind of activities supported in #automotive | 14:30 | |
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| paulsherwood | so tanikawa-san will work with colleagues in japan and then list of tasks will be published on wiki and/or jira | 14:31 |
| paulsherwood | there are people working on automotive layer | 14:31 |
| weston | more clearly? | 14:32 |
| * weston also into embedded area | 14:32 | |
| persia | weston: This is a general channel for some of the ongoing initiatives in automotive. GENIVI and AGL are the larger participants. The current text is mostly minutes of a teleconference that is currently ongoing. | 14:32 |
| paulsherwood | weston: sorry, it is a bit confusing i should have mentioned i am typing summary of a live converence meeting | 14:32 |
| weston | persia: okay. some more clarifications, automotive infotainment or any vehicle services? | 14:35 |
| weston | paulsherwood: no problems | 14:35 |
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| persia | weston: That level of differentiation has yet to be achieved | 14:37 |
| * weston was working into some instrument cluster ASIL A specific softwares some years bacl | 14:38 | |
| weston | *back | 14:38 |
| weston | was thinking if similar kind of vehicle services available in GENIVI / AGL | 14:39 |
| paulsherwood | ps needs to publish suggestions for voting policy etc. and undertakes to write to the list summarising the options for people submitting patches | 14:39 |
| paulsherwood | (either direct to gerrit, or via the mailing list) | 14:39 |
| paulsherwood | ps needs to document pros and cons of ci, and recommend proposed solution | 14:42 |
| paulsherwood | in another meeting renesas confirmed that it will provide boards for automated testing of GENIVI software, and if we get the design right these can also be used for the ci of agl | 14:43 |
| paulsherwood | meeting ends | 14:43 |
| waltminer | Thanks paul | 14:43 |
| paulsherwood | weston: sorry... i'll make it clearer when we start a meetign in futurer | 14:43 |
| paulsherwood | weston: also, you need find yourself a bouncer or other service that stays online when your connection drops. i would recommend irccloud | 14:44 |
| waltminer | Can the topic be changed to reflect the meeting in progress and then changed back? | 14:45 |
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| persia | It can | 14:45 |
| jlrmagnus | Morning | 14:45 |
| c0dd3r5 | morning! | 14:45 |
| waltminer | Morning Magnus | 14:45 |
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| jlrmagnus | Hello Walt. | 14:46 |
| weston | paulsherwood: thanks. I will check. normally connecting from Uni will be over browser only. strict privilege restrictions sorry. | 14:47 |
| paulsherwood | irccloud will be perfect for you ... it's browser based | 14:48 |
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| weston | paulsherwood: IRC cloud log - "No signups allowed from that domain" | 15:10 |
| paulsherwood | weston: you may need dropbear or similar | 15:13 |
| weston | paulsherwood: i think it is not safe to use any links without getting permission from admin as per policy | 15:14 |
| weston | will check | 15:14 |
| paulsherwood | or try https://chat.codethink.co.uk - you'll need to sned an email requesting access there | 15:14 |
| weston | paulsherwood: Unable to connect | 15:15 |
| weston | paulsherwood: since we do some research here, it is bit strict inside | 15:15 |
| weston | sorry | 15:15 |
| weston | paulsherwood: JEEB I could see the weston applications using ivi controller | 15:22 |
| weston | I will have to correctly manage the screen,layer and surfaces | 15:22 |
| weston | for eg: LayerManagerControl set layer 1000 render order 9420; LayerManagerControl set layer 1000 visibility 1 | 15:23 |
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