IRC logs for #automotive for Monday, 2015-07-20

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westongood morning all05:01
westonJEEB: paulsherwood  hello05:21
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westonJEEB: Please see the versions . wayland 1.5.0,  wayland IVI extension 1.2.0 , wayland-kms 1.4.0 , weston 1.5.007:59
westonQt 5.3.007:59
JEEBso old and buggy :)07:59
JEEBwell, good luck with that08:00
westonJEEB: so can you recommend a combination?08:02
westonJEEB: I need to change it to make this working08:03
JEEBwell if you go look at the logs I did give you some recommendations :P08:06
JEEBbut you should already check what kind of patching your components already have if you are using some yocto layers08:06
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westonJEEB: sure. Also I am using 1.2.0 - ivi-controller.so10:50
westonJEEB: also too old?10:50
radiofreeweston: i did quite a lot of work on wayland-ivi-extension stuff, what's your question again?10:52
radiofreealso amazed the nick "weston" hasn't already been snapped up on freenode ;)10:52
westonradiofree: hehe10:53
westonradiofree: I will repeat10:54
westonradiofree: this is the whole log we were discussing last day. https://irclogs.baserock.org/automotive/%23automotive.2015-07-19.log.html10:55
westonbut, I will repeat.10:55
westonI am having an embedded platform (ARM) where I am planning to develop some QT based HMI applications. Currently Linux 3.10.31, Qt 5.3.0 and waland/weston build is used10:56
westonIVI-controller also must be used10:57
westonwhen I have the ivi-controller option in weston.ini is enabled, the display is not up10:57
radiofreeivi-controller, by default, will show a black screen10:58
westonIVI layer manager also must be used10:58
westonradiofree: ohh really?10:58
westonradiofree: okay.10:58
radiofreelayer manager functionality now provided by ivi-controller10:58
radiofreebest way to check?10:58
radiofreeexport XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/correct/path10:58
radiofreeLayerManagerControll get scene10:58
radiofrees/Controll/Control10:58
radiofreeif that lists stuff, it's up and running10:59
westonwhen I try to run, hellowindow qt app , it is throwing egl not found10:59
radiofreeright, so i'm assuming you have the EGL drivers for your platform?10:59
westonradiofree: yes yes10:59
radiofreeand you're launching the qt app with -platform wayland10:59
westonradiofree: yes yes10:59
radiofreeand that qt app shows up in stock, desktop-shell, weston?10:59
radiofreei.e weston without a weston.ini11:00
radiofreewhich graphic backend are you using for weston?11:00
westonradiofree: opengl11:00
westonand powervr11:00
westoni can see them in board11:00
radiofreethe qt app shows up in normal weston then?11:01
radiofreei guess you're limited to the vendor provided version of weston then?11:01
westonradiofree: will share the versions11:01
westonPlease see the versions . wayland 1.5.0,  wayland IVI extension 1.2.0 , wayland-kms 1.4.0 , weston 1.5.011:02
westonAlso I am using 1.2.0 - ivi-controller.so11:02
westonradiofree: JEEB was telling about some qt and ivi shell patchin11:02
westonpatching11:03
westonthat I haven't done11:03
radiofreeyes, it's a world of pain (you need to find the right set of qtwayland patches for your version, they are spread all over the internet...) i was going to get to that, however the first test should be to see if your Qt app works in your weston setup11:03
radiofreeso just launch weston normally (i.e with the desktop that has the icon for weston-terminal in the top left)11:04
westonradiofree: no display man11:04
radiofreeso *don't* load ivi-controller, just launch weston with --backend=whatever-your-backend-is.so11:05
radiofreee.g mv ~/.config/weston.ini ~/.config/weston.ivi && weston --backend=foo.so11:05
radiofreebasically, get the stock, weston, desktop up, if that's not working, then your problems are more fundamental than ivi-shell11:06
westonradiofree: normal analogclock app is running - qt normal app11:06
radiofreein weston?11:06
westonradiofree: yes yes11:07
westonbut cube is having the issue11:07
radiofreeEGL?11:07
radiofreeyeah, i guess analogclock doesn't need gl...11:07
westonradiofree: yes yes11:07
radiofreetry "weston-simple-egl"11:07
westonradiofree: is that an app11:07
weston?11:08
radiofreeit's a weston example app yes11:08
westonradiofree: please hold on11:08
westonradiofree: it is running with no errors ..but nothing in display11:10
radiofreeweston: just to confirm, your display looks something like https://camo.githubusercontent.com/7599420dc629a3cf0f4f67ed3e089a121b0ea827/687474703a2f2f7777772e7461726e796b6f2e6e65742f7265706f2f776573746f6e3133312d7461736b626172312e706e6711:11
radiofreeweston: try weston-simple-shm now11:11
westonradiofree: no man...no display up..but I am trying over serial terminal connected in minicom11:12
westonanalog clock is running11:12
radiofreecan you fpaste your weston.log somewhere11:12
radiofrees/fpaste/pastebin11:13
radiofreei'm a bit confused now11:13
westonradiofree: it is also same behavior11:13
westonradiofree: will share11:13
radiofreehowever it's sounding like your system is incorrectly configured for wayland/egl, which will be your first step11:13
westonradiofree: okay11:13
westonradiofree: I need to start from scratch11:13
radiofreeyes, basically launch weston into http://www.ics.com/sites/default/files/qtwayland_html_b8dfc55d.png11:14
radiofreei.e the totally default desktop-shell11:14
radiofreethen try those steps, analogue clock with -platform wayland11:14
radiofree(you can launch it from the weston-terminal to make things a bit easier)11:14
radiofreethen an EGL example for Qt11:14
radiofreethen if that doesn't work weston-simple-egl11:15
radiofreeif none of the EGL stuff is working, you have something more fundamentally wrong with your system, and you'll need to sort that out with your vendor11:15
radiofreei, thankfully, haven't had to interact with powervr and weston11:15
westonradiofree: vendor means?11:16
westonradiofree: which log are you expecting?11:16
radiofreewhoever gave you the binary blobs, weston backend etc..11:16
westonradiofree: we built11:16
westonby yocto11:16
radiofreeweston: launch weston with --log=/tmp/weston.log11:17
radiofreethen a lot of useful info will be printed to /tmp/weston.log11:17
westonradiofree: will dump and share11:17
westonalso tried like cube -platform wayland-egl -layerid 0x1000011:19
radiofreeweston: your first step should be to totally ignore weston-ivi-shell/wayland-ivi-extension11:21
radiofreeand just make sure your base weston setup is working11:22
westonradiofree: please share me the default config11:22
radiofreethe default config is no config11:22
westonradiofree: okay11:23
radiofreeweston looks for weston.ini i i) the directly you're running the "weston" command in ii) ~/.config/weston.ini and iii) somewhere else i can't remember11:23
radiofreeso make sure weston.ini has been moved somewhere else (just rename it weston.ivi) or something11:23
radiofreethen launch weston with `--log=/tmp/weston.log --backend=whatever-backend-youre-supposed-to-be-used.so`11:24
westonradiofree: now I have under home11:24
westonunder /home/root/weston.ini11:24
radiofreemv that to weston.ivi, i.e something it's not going to parse11:25
westonradiofree: okay...11:25
westonplease hold11:25
radiofreeif you launch weston in /home/root it'll still use that11:25
westonradiofree: so you need to launch weston without an ini11:25
westonright?11:25
radiofreethat's to get the default shell, yes11:26
radiofreeyou *will* need an ini for ivi related things, but we're not there yet....11:26
westonradiofree: --backend=whatever-backend-youre-supposed-to-be-used.so ???11:26
radiofreethat's whatever backend you're supposed to be using11:26
westonhmi-controller11:26
westonwill check and back11:26
radiofreethat is *not* the backend11:27
radiofreethe backend will be like drm-backend.so, or pvr-backend.so (total guess there)11:27
radiofreei have absolutely no idea what the powervr backend will be called, but if you don't know, i'm going to guess this is the cause of your issues with EGL11:28
radiofreei.e you need to be launching weston with the correct graphic device for your hardware11:28
radiofrees/device/backend11:28
westonradiofree: okay.11:39
westonradiofree: so can you elaborate how can I give the options?11:39
westonlaunch weston --log=westo.log --backend=??.so ?11:40
westonradiofree: tested your previous qns on baord11:40
westonsee the analysis11:40
westonrenamed the weston.in11:40
westonand started with default backend11:40
westonand display is up11:40
westonand can see the windows11:41
westonran wayland examples11:41
westonradiofree: see here http://pastebin.com/vgxH3pjh11:43
westonwithout weston.in11:43
westonini11:43
westonradiofree: with weston http://pastebin.com/7d1C3Wfy11:45
westonradiofree: you there11:48
radiofreeweston: "This paste has been removed!"12:04
radiofreeweston: i probably won't be able to respond in real-time all-the-time, but if you leave the logs around i can check them later12:05
radiofreeeither here or on the mailing list12:05
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westonohh12:48
westonradiofree: are you alive now?12:48
JEEBnever expect someone to be online or available, just say what you want to say and stay around12:49
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westonJEEB: IRC thumb rule, sorry12:49
westonJEEB: was bit aggressive12:50
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* waltminer is sad no one can hear him on the GENIVI tools call13:21
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waltminerpaulsherwood - the meeting invite for the tools meeting was in my calendar for 7 am instead of 8am. Somehow you have royally messed up the invite. It is 7 am for all the weeks going forward too13:47
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paulsherwoodoh dear!13:48
paulsherwoodi'll investigate and send a new invite. i'm very sorry13:49
steve_walt: another way is to look at the webex page for the meeting and then click the "add to my calender" link. That will sort out the time differences.13:52
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persiaAt least until the next timezone change13:57
rjekThere is only one timezone, GMT.13:57
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radiofreeweston: as i said, much better to leave the logs around for me to look at after you tried what i suggested15:28
paulsherwoodweston: irc tends to be asychronous... you may need to be patient15:29
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westonradiofree: ok thanks16:00
westonpaulsherwood: i know man..was here for a long time16:00
paulsherwoodweston: it seems you posted a pastebin at 12:45, but it had been removed by 13:04 ?16:01
paulsherwood19 minutes is not 'a long time' in irc terms :-)16:02
westonpaulsherwood: since it has some confidential banners, I pasted it as unlisted expiery mode...16:02
westonpaulsherwood: I mean, I was regular in #c for a long time with a different nick16:03
* paulsherwood is confused now16:03
westonpaulsherwood: sorry16:03
paulsherwoodnp... i get confused a lot :-)16:03
westonpaulsherwood: with me?16:04
paulsherwoodpaulsherwood: i think so, but no problem. it looked to me like radiofree tried to help you, you offered him a paste but deleted it, then said 'are you alive now' to him, then are saying you've been around here for a long time, is if you're getting impatient somehow?16:07
paulsherwoods/paulsherwood/weston/16:07
westonpaulsherwood: ohh., total misunderstandings with language16:09
westonI mean, I was in IRC long time and I am familier with the basic rules.16:09
paulsherwoodno problem, that's kinda what ai thought :)16:09
westonIRC == #c,#kernel etc16:10
westonpaulsherwood: my bad english16:10
westonyou know , I am really lower end in english16:11
* weston everyone might have understood :)16:11
* weston is thinking #automotive is populated in EU time zone!16:13
jlrmagnusNot entirely.16:13
jlrmagnusThere is a small colony at GMT-8.16:13
westonjlrmagnus: from JLR?16:13
jlrmagnusAnd Intel in Portland.16:13
westonjlrmagnus: ok thanks16:15
westonjlrmagnus: GMT-7 == 9.15 am ?16:17
jlrmagnusCorrect.16:17
westonjlrmagnus: okay. was googling16:17
weston:)16:17
westonhere, 9.45 pm16:17
jlrmagnusIndia?16:18
westonjlrmagnus: yes,16:18
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paulsherwoodjlrmagnus: a small colony :-)16:36
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jlrmagnusThe Brits, in the shape of JLR, are benevolent rulers, so we don't complain.16:37
paulsherwoodlol16:37
westonJLR is now owned by someone else right?16:38
jlrmagnusYes. Smug smile on the buyers, irritated frown on the sellers, I would assume.16:39
jlrmagnusAlthough Ford probably did not care.16:40
jlrmagnusDoes not matter, though, since we are doing quite well under Tata.16:40
westonjlrmagnus: Tata - the Indian venture isn't it? sorry, I am not so familier in this automotive area.16:43
rjekTata is an engineering and tea leave conglomerate.16:44
jlrmagnusYes. Tata bought Jaguar and Land Rover back in 2008 from Ford's premiere auto group.16:44
rjekAlso a colloqualism for "good bye"16:44
westonok, got it. we normally have tea and some hatch back cars16:45
westonin low class range16:45
jlrmagnusYes. India's car market is a well-known anachronism.16:45
rjekDid I really type "tea leave"?  Eugh.16:45
westonjlrmagnus: it is just because, the growth rate and income level16:46
westonrjek: tea leaves16:46
rjekeats and shoots?  No, wait, that's a different gag.16:47
* radiofree decides to leaf for the day16:47
* rjek too. I'm going to try to buy a pub again.16:47
* weston having a tea now16:47
* weston see you guys tomorrow with more results to radiofree..about to leave university 16:55
paulsherwoodttfn :)16:56
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furyat least one GMT-4/GMT-5 too (depending on whether you believe in DST)17:25
persiaThe trick is to find more positive folk.  UTC+5:30 is a good start, but moe from UTC+8 and UTC+9 would be exciting.17:30
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