IRC logs for #automotive for Saturday, 2015-07-04

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radiofreeso why conman00:44
radiofreei don't think any linux people working on anything related to that have actually used it00:44
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paulsherwoodradiofree: you mean connman?05:16
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radiofreepaulsherwood: yep10:26
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paulsherwoodradiofree: ok, not sure what you mean then? that connman is not useable, or a bad choice or?10:51
radiofreei've never used it, i don't know anyone that has other than "i used it on some embedded project for....", i don't know the reason10:56
radiofreeyum search connman10:56
radiofreeconnman.i686 : An alternative daemon for managing internet connections on Linux10:56
radiofreemaybe i should actually try the alternative10:57
paulsherwoodwhat are the alternatives?10:58
radiofreeconnman is the alternative, it says so right in the description10:59
rjekI have only ever heard connman mentioned once before, and that was in the sentence "connman is somehow worse than NetworkManager"11:01
radiofreei'm no nm expert, but i'd at least know where to look there, i'm making the assumption that these linux platforms will need to have people to debug issues on them at some point11:02
radiofreeanyone who's ever used linux will at least know what nm is, connman is completely foreign11:02
paulsherwoodso the question is why would anyone choose connman, over NetworkManager?11:49
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JEEBsvhow maintained is nm these days?12:08
JEEBsvseems relatively well by the git log12:09
JEEBsvI guess someone would have to make a proper comparison on various sides (features, usability, dependencies)12:11
JEEBsvmy experience with connman is rather limited, so I can't say much. Mostly just had it in some images and noticed that it brought up the network just fine.12:12
persiaGenerally, when I've seen connman used it was because the folk using it thought nm had too many moving parts, or had trouble debugging nm, rather than because of positive features of connman.  That said, it has been some years since I was last involved in a connman vs. nm discussion: more recently the consensus seemed to be "use connman for embedded, nm for other things (except some servers)" without much evaluation or discussion.12:46
persia(well, except some folk also use nm for resource-constrained systems like phones, tablets, kiosks, etc. when they aren't considering it an "embedded" software load because the microcontroller is more powerful than their memories of desktop workstations)12:48
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