IRC logs for #baserock for Wednesday, 2015-12-02

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radiofreehi, was there every a known issue with morph distbuild where changing the sha for a component wouldn't actually rebuild it?09:01
radiofreedefinitions were kept local, and not pushed to the trove, however the change was committed locally09:02
tiagogomesI didn't touch distbuild in ages, but I thought that the commit needs to be pushed to the trove09:03
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radiofreethis is a pretty old version09:12
radiofreei thought distbuild would push a temporary branch somewhere?09:13
rjekMy understanding was that distbuild pulled from the trove, so things you wanted to build had to be there somehow?09:13
pedroalvarezyes, I believe that's true09:14
tiagogomesmorph master should push the branch to the trove09:14
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pedroalvarezalso, I believe that it removes the temporary branch when it finishes09:16
pedroalvarezOne thing you can try is to:   push the branch, and then use morph distbuild-morphology09:17
tiagogomesThe release scripts should be broken, as they use sysbranchdir09:34
gtristanMorning folks :)09:37
gtristanSo, sound is "sorta" working now in GNOME... I had to rebuild the kernel with an intel sound card driver enabled09:38
gtristanthis raises some questions, I wonder first, probably I should patch the definitions of every linux kernel in sync, instead of just linux-x86_64-generic ?09:39
gtristanAlso, probably what we want when it comes to peripherals, is to build them as modules instead of statically in the kernel, and probably we want 'lots of drivers' available as modules09:40
gtristanthen at least the module doesnt take up kernel memory unless it needs to be loaded, and we can sort out kernel modules into separate artifacts at some point in the future09:41
tiagogomesWe have been keeping all kernel configuration in sync09:42
pedroalvareznot all of it, I think, but we tried09:42
tiagogomesI think some years ago we were working on a design for handling kernel modules, but AFAIK an implementation never came through09:43
radiofreegtristan: patching them all for what? CONFIG_SND?09:43
radiofreedoesn't make much sense to enable intel snd driver on a jetson for example09:43
gtristanradiofree, CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X009:43
tiagogomesJonathan Maw should know better, but he is not here09:43
gtristanradiofree, we need the actual driver, already had the core09:44
gtristanbut just because it plays a sound in my VM, does not mean that that module is needed on some random arm board, probably its one other of a hundred or so available modules09:44
pedroalvarezCONFIG_SND_SOC_TEGRA_*09:47
gtristanpedroalvarez, I dont see that config in our 4.2.6 .config :-/09:49
gtristanor I didnt get the joke :-S09:50
pedroalvarezwell, it wasn't a joke09:53
pedroalvarezI googled for jetson tk1 and config_snd and I found some patches here: http://wiki.baserock.org/How_to_install_a_big-endian_Linux_system_to_NVIDIA_Jetson_TK1/09:53
pedroalvarezso looks like someone else did the investigation about what is needed on a jetson, maybe bashrc_ or maybe radiofree09:54
gtristanAh09:55
gtristanheh09:55
gtristanpedroalvarez, right it smells like some gsoc project / experimental kernel branch ?09:56
gtristanperhaps that branch is enabled in the jetson bsp ?09:56
pedroalvarezdon't worry about that, and I think (IMO) that patching x86 kernels for that it's ok09:56
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pedroalvarezgtristan: no, I don't think we ever merged these patches anywhere09:57
gtristanah so it's all downstream09:57
gtristangotcha09:57
pedroalvarezyeah, don't worry about Jetsons (unless you have one, and you really want to try that)09:58
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pedroalvarezgtristan: so, is there anything else needed? or just kernel drivers missing?09:59
gtristanok well "for now" I will just add CONFIG_SND_INTELX80 statically, as I understand it supports popular laptop chipsets, including the default VirtualBox audio chipset09:59
gtristanthe general kernel module problem is a can of worms09:59
gtristanpedroalvarez, perhaps as a "next step" we might want to compile *all* possible device drivers as modules, and have modprobe sort it out - then we'd have a similar situation with locales10:01
gtristanwhere we "install everything"10:01
gtristanand as a further step, we can look into artifact splitting, picking and choosing what modules we want to actually include10:02
gtristanbut for now, I think better to push that whole story aside10:02
pedroalvarezwell, I hated when I had to compile and compile and compile the raspberry kernel because it was building every module possible..10:02
gtristanright, it's one option out of many possible approaches10:03
pedroalvarezyes, let's not think about that for now, but it's an interesting topic10:03
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pedroalvarez<tiagogomes> The release scripts should be broken, as they use sysbranchdir10:24
pedroalvareznooooooooooooooooo /o\10:24
tiagogomespedroalvarez we just did a release, so we have time to fix them for the next one :)10:25
pedroalvarezshould I setup a mason that uses latest morph so that you can spot things like this?10:25
tiagogomesanother mason or changing the current one?10:26
tiagogomesis not morph master being tested against definitions master?10:26
pedroalvarezanother mason, but I don't know if what I have in mind would work10:28
pedroalvarezand no, it's not10:28
tiagogomesthat's bad10:30
pedroalvarezhehe, it is10:32
pedroalvarezCI is complex, to implement, and to maintain10:32
edcraggwe already had one implemented...10:52
SotKedcragg: s/one/many attempts/10:53
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