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| laurenceurhegyi | Last night I started to read into standards and the various worldwide and national bodies involved in creating them and the administration of them and so on. It's a bit of a minefield and I found it really quite unclear as to who does what and who funds what and where their different interests lie and so forth. | 10:08 |
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| laurenceurhegyi | So I'd like to include a section in the 'Idiot's Guide to Trustable' which I am currently working on, which will summarise this and give a high level overview of the state of play. I aim to have the first draft complete by Friday this week - I'm sure others on here understand this 'minefield' better than I, so if you could review this work, please let me know. | 10:10 |
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| laurenceurhegyi | Also, the IRC logs seem to have stopped logging on 24 December here: https://irclogs.baserock.org/trustable/latest.log.html | 10:21 |
| laurenceurhegyi | pedroalvarez, I think you set this up originally? Could you please take a look? | 10:22 |
| pedroalvarez | thats bad, sorry I didn't notice | 10:22 |
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| pedroalvarez | sorted | 10:32 |
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| laurenceurhegyi | Thanks - is there any way to retrieve the 'lost' days? | 10:33 |
| jmacs | I have logs | 10:34 |
| jmacs | Slightly concerned that this Adobe thing requires Flash Player... that could take me a while to set up | 10:35 |
| rjek | Nothing that depends on the Flash Player is trustable :) | 10:35 |
| pedroalvarez | I also have logs, I'll see if I can do something with t hem | 10:35 |
| laurenceurhegyi | adobe connect | 10:36 |
| laurenceurhegyi | ? | 10:37 |
| jmacs | Yes | 10:37 |
| -*- jmacs should probably have tried this before today | 10:38 | |
| laurenceurhegyi | I didn't realise, as I didn't have to install anything for it - it 'just worked' for me, using chrome. | 10:38 |
| rjek | Some versions of Chrome have Flash built-in, but modern versions don't because nobody should be using Flash anymore | 10:40 |
| ChrisPolin | I'm not being prompted for flash player when using that invitation link. | 10:44 |
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| laurenceurhegyi | pedroalvarez: thanks for sorting those logs | 11:07 |
| pedroalvarez | I think I've recovered what was missing | 11:11 |
| laurenceurhegyi | yes, looks good | 11:11 |
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| jmacs | Running Chrome now and it just has a jigsaw piece icon saying "download failed" | 14:35 |
| ChrisPolin | Are you following the link in the initial email that laurenceurhegyi sent? | 14:36 |
| jmacs | I'm going to http://meeting.unipr.it/dmi/ which is in the email Roberto Bagnara sent | 14:37 |
| ChrisPolin | That takes me straight to the meeting, and chrome tells me the mic and webcam are working (although no proof of that as the meeting hasn't started) | 14:37 |
| ChrisPolin | Yes, me too. | 14:37 |
| laurenceurhegyi | My version of chrome is: | 14:39 |
| laurenceurhegyi | Version 55.0.2883.87 (64-bit) | 14:39 |
| laurenceurhegyi | If that helps at all | 14:39 |
| jmacs | Exactly the same | 14:40 |
| jmacs | And Adobe's flash tester site says my flash player works correctly | 14:41 |
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| laurenceurhegyi | OK. As a workaround for tonight's meeting, I'll hook up the speakers to my laptop, so we can can all hear it. If you want to contribute then you can speak into my laptop mic. I can also project it but I'm not convinced we'll need to see the screen. | 14:48 |
| jmacs | laurenceurhegyi: It works now. I have no idea why. | 15:08 |
| laurenceurhegyi | OK. | 15:10 |
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| mdunford | I was pointed at this as something that might be interesting for Trustable SW http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/ctsrd/cheri/ | 15:46 |
| mdunford | I'm not really equipped to make any assessment of it myself :) | 15:47 |
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| pedroalvarez | right, so our irc logs server is not being reliable anymore, and i cant figure out why | 16:07 |
| paulsherwood | :/ | 16:08 |
| persia | pedroalvarez: Is the backing store segmented? When I've had IRC logging issues in the past, it's usually because I'm sticking everything in the same file/directory/database table/etc. | 16:08 |
| persia | With many solutions, it is possible to rotate these on some scheduled basis (weekly/monthly/quarterly, depending on volume), which can increase stability. | 16:09 |
| pedroalvarez | every day is stored in a different file | 16:10 |
| pedroalvarez | looks like net issues looking at the logs | 16:10 |
| persia | Ah, ugh. | 16:11 |
| pedroalvarez | http://paste.baserock.org/ekokamecis | 16:11 |
| persia | On day-per-file storage (assuming also per-channel), I've had issues in the past, unless I broke down the directories to try to have less than a few thousand files per directory (not that this is the issue today) | 16:12 |
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| persia | pedroalvarez: Have you asked in #freenode about the other side of the connection? | 16:13 |
| pedroalvarez | no, I havent | 16:13 |
| persia | There's a bot policy: if it's not registered, sometimes bots get killed. The log you show looks like supybot was unexpectedly killed, and isn't able to sensibly reconnect. | 16:13 |
| persia | I wonder if freenode policy implementation is related (it may not be) | 16:14 |
| pedroalvarez | hmm | 16:14 |
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| pedroalvarez | I'll ask if the connection drops again | 16:18 |
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| laurenceurhegyi | Thanks mdunford. I do recall reading about Capsicum on the mailing list, back in August, I think. And this project seems to be a continuation of Capsicum. | 16:34 |
| laurenceurhegyi | There's a decent video on it here: | 16:34 |
| laurenceurhegyi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raNx9L4VH2k | 16:34 |
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