IRC logs for #trustable for Monday, 2016-10-10

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laurenceurhegyiOpenControl Mailing list to be found here if anyone would like to join: http://open-control.us14.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=982021c73dfac209529eb63bc&id=cff1dbefff10:30
leemingdid someone once say they were trying to write up a real compliance doc in opencontrol/mustard? I'm wondering what the outputs looks like10:34
leemingi am just doing my very long awaited, read through the mailing list10:35
ChrisPolinI'm trying to find a real standard to use for that leeming.10:35
ChrisPolinI may have to try something more easily obtainable than ISO 26262 though.10:36
leemingi was just pondering about the 'controls' (i think that is the output terminology of opencontrol?) and how they could be linked to code inside some CI system10:39
leemingjust depends on what information is encoded10:39
leemingI also remember you saying that the examples online are quite basic, that is why i ask10:39
ChrisPolin'Controls' is a generic term, it refers to anything that the code must do to comply with a standard (effectively requirements specific to compliance).10:40
leemingbtw, just a tangent thought anyway10:40
ChrisPolinBut yes, that would be a very useful feature. Something along the lines of Javadoc, like you mentioned on friday.10:41
ChrisPolinHave a go with the Freedonia example on the opencontrol repo, it might give you a better idea of how it fits together10:42
leemingsure, i have been a bit lazy lately with branching out and understanding the larger picture10:44
leemingthese silly debugging blinkers ;)10:45
ChrisPolinLol I guess it can be forgiven. =P But aye, that example is very informative.10:45
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ChrisPolinAh ha!13:20
ChrisPolinhttp://sesamo-project.eu/sites/default/files/downloads/publications/iso-26262-dis-tutorial-2010-final.pdf13:20
ChrisPolinIt is so very long. =(13:21
leemingah, but a quick look tells me it is a flattened animation deck13:29
leemingalthough i wish everyone had basic intro to presentations13:30
ChrisPolinHmm, you're right. Apparently there is a published version of it, I'll keep looking.13:31
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ChrisPolinOk, so ISO 26262 costs just shy of £150 to buy (https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:26262:-5:ed-1:v1:en)14:37
ChrisPolinThere are only informative sections publicly available, the actual standard itself must be purchased.14:38
leeminghmm not very accessible then14:39
paulsher1oodChrisPolin: fair enough... but what's the situation with derivative works?14:40
ChrisPolinWhich obviously presents the licensing issues previously raised.14:40
paulsher1oodif we paid, could we put it into yaml in public?14:40
ChrisPolinI can certainly fire them an email to find out.14:40
paulsher1oodpls do14:40
ChrisPolinWill update when I hear back.14:41
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