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| leon-anavi | morning | 05:10 |
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| mranostay | dl9pf: heh so got a rfkill patchset that works for the race condition... but *facepalm* enabling debug in the binding now fixes another | 07:29 |
| mranostay | so unlikely i'll hit the DD freeze | 07:29 |
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| mranostay | then again i think the issue only happens if you have USB hub connected to the BT dongle on the rpi3.. not sure about porter | 07:44 |
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| mranostay | probably fixed if we ever switch to 4.8 kernel :) | 07:49 |
| dl9pf | mranostay: then let's push-out the rfkill fix to 4.0.1 / master , let's focus on what we need for DD | 07:52 |
| mranostay | although everything works fine on my M3 board | 07:52 |
| mranostay | and faster of course | 07:53 |
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| [AD]Turbo | hi there | 08:07 |
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| fury | Hi guys | 11:52 |
| fury | How's it hangin? | 11:52 |
| mdp | morning fury | 11:57 |
| fury | :D | 11:58 |
| leon-anavi | hey :) | 12:08 |
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| leon-anavi | My AGL build for rcar3 fails to start due to missing dependency on low-level-can-service | 12:17 |
| leon-anavi | What's that? | 12:17 |
| leon-anavi | dl9pf, I see in the git logs that you have recently worked on low-level-can-service. Which layer and recipe provides it? | 12:17 |
| CTtpollard | is it the kernel restriction that's talked about on the mailing list? | 12:18 |
| dl9pf | CTtpollard: yes | 12:18 |
| dl9pf | it has been reworked meanwhile to compile conditionally | 12:18 |
| dl9pf | leon-anavi: the recipe is in meta-appfw , but we made the recipe only included by default https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/10341/ ... we might revert that if it works | 12:20 |
| dl9pf | add it back ... corrent log message ? | 12:21 |
| dl9pf | hmmm ... but m3 was included in above patch ... hmm | 12:23 |
| dl9pf | repo manifest -r , and the error log | 12:23 |
| dl9pf | ? | 12:24 |
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| leon-anavi | yes, m3 is affected by the patch above | 12:55 |
| leon-anavi | https://gist.github.com/leon-anavi/2f7091eeed6256a69e6d3741f8953352 | 12:56 |
| leon-anavi | the error is in the log above^^^ | 12:57 |
| dl9pf | by why ... m3ulsb is included in the modified recipe | 13:18 |
| * dl9pf ... checks for typos | 13:19 | |
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| Tartarus | dl9pf: OK, good news, the chaining conversion fixes have been taken in by RP now. I'm adding some tests for that, and then tests for wic.vmdk | 13:33 |
| Tartarus | dl9pf: It's loooking good to be able to pull all of these changes back into AGL, once we move up to pyro | 13:34 |
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| Vamsi | Hi. What is the minimal system requirements to run AGL? | 14:09 |
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| dl9pf | Vamsi: low range is rpi3 , but reference is renesas rcar gen2 / gen 3 or intel minnowboard | 14:38 |
| Vamsi | dl9pf: Thank you :) | 14:43 |
| fury | note: minnowboards seem to have a bit of an issue (at least on the quad core version - not sure about dual core) - first 8 bits of memory aren't always written correctly, so the OS locks up sometimes | 14:58 |
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| Vamsi | fury: Thanks :-) | 15:28 |
| fury | i hope they can find a fix soon, minnowboard was the best i tried so far :P | 15:29 |
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| smurray | fury: I suspect it's just that new batch of quad core boards, I've never had issues on my dual-core max or turbot | 16:16 |
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| mdp | same here | 16:17 |
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| fury | Sweet | 16:20 |
| fury | But you say the dual core is slow? | 16:21 |
| fury | Or is that just on boot up | 16:21 |
| CTtpollard | it's way faster on the sata | 16:21 |
| fury | The coolest thing to me was that all the UI animations were fluid | 16:21 |
| fury | Boot in ~20 sec was icing on the cake | 16:21 |
| smurray | I don't find the dual-core turbot particularly fast | 16:22 |
| fury | Makes sense SATA would be faster, I guess - 6 gigabits vs. however many megabits the SD card reader... | 16:22 |
| smurray | yeah, that helps startup | 16:23 |
| fury | Hmm. On my quad core, apps started up in like a second | 16:23 |
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| smurray | fury: the e3845 has double the L2 and an extra 500 MHz clock in addition to the 2 extra cores | 16:26 |
| CTtpollard | nice! | 16:27 |
| CTtpollard | Is there any more clarity with Intel on the maker/board side of things? I saw an article that the 101 is stopping too | 16:28 |
| mranostay | smurray: heh i suspect double the L2 does more than double the cores :) | 16:29 |
| smurray | CTtpollard: afaict it looks like they're done with targetting makers, they've cancelled almost everything except Minnowboard now | 16:30 |
| mranostay | CTtpollard: Intel fired all their entire maker/wearable group.. so i wouldn't expect anymore on that front | 16:33 |
| CTtpollard | ouch :( | 16:34 |
| fury | I'll build my own maker board! With blackjack and hookers! | 16:37 |
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| fury | https://www.xkcd.com/927/ | 16:38 |
| mranostay | CTtpollard: although minnowboard should be "safe" since that is in the IoT group | 16:38 |
| CTtpollard | I thought they'd canned the Joule though, wasn't that IoT focused? | 16:39 |
| mranostay | yeah but a 350-500$ board :) | 16:41 |
| fury | surely there's enough brains within the AGL community we could get together and hash out a good board design, right? :P | 16:43 |
| fury | prolly harder than i can even imagine tho | 16:44 |
| mranostay | no money in low volume hardware like that :)... also you ever see what regulation and compliance testing costs? :) | 16:46 |
| fury | Yuuuuuup | 16:46 |
| mranostay | there is a reason there are 100x more software startups than hardware :) | 16:47 |
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| fury | Went through Apple MFi certification a few times, Bluetooth certification once, FCC, etc., enough to make my head spin | 16:49 |
| fury | Heard horror stories of XM approval | 16:50 |
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| mdp | mranostay: the money is all in low volume hardware like printing presses and MRI machines ;) | 18:02 |
| mdp | something with value beyond being a "PC" | 18:02 |
| mdp | oh yes, it's because software | 18:02 |
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| dl9pf | leon-anavi-cloud: found the issue | 18:52 |
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| altendky | j1939 seems very restrictive for identifiers available for proprietary use. unless you abuse the priority bits... are they generally strictly respected and all identifiers would be unique even disregarding the priority bits? | 21:33 |
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