| fury | I wanna do an app running on iOS that communicates with an app running on AGL | 00:00 |
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| fury | I don't see any ALS 2017 videos yet :( | 00:06 |
| smurray | fury: maybe ask on the ml if anyone has a pointer to a video of the Toyota demo | 00:13 |
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| fury | VR in the car, that's where it's gonna be in 5 years. Calling it now :P | 00:25 |
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| leon-anavi | morning | 07:04 |
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| jobol | hi Leon | 07:36 |
| leon-anavi | hi jobol how are you? | 07:36 |
| jobol | not that bad and you | 07:36 |
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| leon-anavi | trying to boot AGL master on rpi3 ... without success | 08:00 |
| leon-anavi | All I get is a blank screen and absolutely no output on the serial console | 08:00 |
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| jobol | leon-anavi, IRC my screen was black | 08:12 |
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| jeremiah | Ohai | 12:34 |
| jeremiah | https://github.com/j3ss5t/viwiLocationBasedServices | 12:34 |
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| jeremiah | fury: You may want to look at SDL, SmartDeviceLink | 13:57 |
| jeremiah | fury: It has iOS tooling and can communicate with the core SDL app on the head unit | 13:58 |
| jeremiah | It also has Android code | 13:58 |
| jeremiah | So you can easily port your app from one system to the other. | 13:58 |
| jeremiah | for some $ of "easily". | 13:58 |
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| RzR | leon-anavi, https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-651 any hints to share ? | 16:03 |
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| leon-anavi | no, I have other issues with rpi3 | 16:05 |
| leon-anavi | SPEC-616, SPEC-649, SPEC-650 | 16:06 |
| leon-anavi | in other words right now I can't get AGL master working on rpi | 16:06 |
| leon-anavi | there is need to fix plenty of things | 16:06 |
| leon-anavi | I have been away from the project for a while and I am not sure what went wrong and let to these issues. | 16:07 |
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| slidercrank | do you guys work in the automotive industry? which companies use AGL? or does anyone use it for their own project as an enthusiast (not for a company)? | 16:09 |
| fury | jeremiah: cool! I figured that was the case with SDL, but I don't see it integrated into AGL mainline yet...do you know if that's coming soon, or if there's maybe an unstable branch I can pull in to play around with it? | 16:11 |
| fury | slidercrank: I am both an enthusiast and work for a company - I want the stuff in my car, and my company wants to put it in motorcycles :) | 16:12 |
| slidercrank | interesting | 16:12 |
| fury | Toyota recently announced the 2018 Camry is built on AGL. I don't recall if any other companies have announced anything shipping, but lots of companies have joined and contributed code and whatnot over the last few years | 16:17 |
| fury | This is the latest video I've found of the AGL demo platform: https://www.automotivelinux.org/videos | 16:18 |
| slidercrank | fury, it looks like there are quite a few platforms (open and closed-source) for infotainment, connected services. I work for HARMAN. Even though this company is a member of AGL, I´ve never seen AGL used in any of its products (but the company is big so maybe someone somewhere uses it). | 16:20 |
| slidercrank | GENIVI is another project which seems to have the same goals as AGL | 16:21 |
| fury | cool :) i used to work for harman | 16:23 |
| fury | AGL and GENIVI work together - for example i think at the moment AGL uses GENIVI's audio manager | 16:23 |
| slidercrank | fury, Samsung bought HARMAN not long ago. but maybe you know that. | 16:24 |
| fury | yup, saw that :) wonder if samsung becomes a member-in-law now :P | 16:25 |
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| fury | hmm | 18:29 |
| fury | low level hardware question here - can i make an AGL app that talks directly to /dev/i2c-x? | 18:30 |
| fury | or does the app framework smack it down? | 18:30 |
| fury | i guess the afm user doesn't have i2c permission, so that'd be a no | 18:30 |
| mranostay | as i2cdev is bad idea period i'd say no | 18:32 |
| fury | it is? | 18:32 |
| fury | hmm | 18:32 |
| fury | what'd be the right way? | 18:32 |
| fury | write a custom driver and expose it as its own /dev/ to open or something? | 18:32 |
| mranostay | write a proper driver for what device it is | 18:33 |
| mranostay | userspace code touching i2c or spi directly is insecure and could DoS the bus | 18:33 |
| fury | makes sense | 18:34 |
| fury | is hiddev also a bad idea? | 18:34 |
| fury | i got some experience a while back making a kernel module for a custom usb driver, i assume the process is roughly the same for a custom i2c driver | 18:38 |
| RzR | I suppose you need to create a service that would proxy i2c | 18:42 |
| RzR | fury, ^ ? | 18:42 |
| fury | yeah, prolly be a service | 18:43 |
| RzR | ALS is an OS on top of GNU/Linux ;) | 18:43 |
| RzR | AGL | 18:43 |
| fury | so i write a driver as a kernel module, load it up, create a service that accesses that driver and exposes APIs for an AGL app, sound about right? | 18:44 |
| fury | a hybrid i guess since i'm the one writing both the service and the app | 18:45 |
| fury | alkfjsdlkfhag i still haven't managed to get one simple UI up on the screen in AGL tho :P | 18:45 |
| fury | i may be doing it wrong | 18:46 |
| fury | well, i checked out the dashboard app and how it's structured, tried to mirror that as much as possible but with my own .qml file | 18:46 |
| fury | but when i installed and ran it, nothing came up on screen | 18:48 |
| fury | oops | 18:57 |
| fury | only brought the raspberry pi and the chip pro with me to WWDC | 18:57 |
| fury | pi is broken on agl master and there is no AGL for chip pro (yet? :P) | 18:57 |
| fury | is there a recent snapshot build of pi that does work? | 18:58 |
| fury | or should i just jump back to chinook? | 18:58 |
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| smurray | fury: istr there being some hang up with EGL on the Chip, but I could be mis-remembering | 21:58 |
| fury | that's ok... the chip pro doesn't even have a display output. i was going to try a headless build of that if i ever got time | 21:59 |
| fury | even if it did have a display output, i sure forgot to bring any display cables :D | 22:00 |
| smurray | fury: I don't play with headless. There's a bunch of layer/packagegroup reorg planned for the Eel release to make that more useful | 22:02 |
| fury | sounds good :D | 22:02 |
| fury | looking for the latest raspberry pi build that worked...any ideas? | 22:03 |
| fury | think i might just jump all the way back to here and try - https://download.automotivelinux.org/AGL/snapshots/master/2017-05-26-b402/raspberrypi3/deploy/images/raspberrypi3/ | 22:05 |
| smurray | fury: I was having problems before then, iirc | 22:05 |
| fury | sheeeit | 22:05 |
| smurray | might be a useful datapoint, though | 22:06 |
| fury | i brought 2 sd cards, one with a working AGL build, and one with raspbian, guess which SD card died, doesn't even recognize it in the reader now :P | 22:06 |
| smurray | I didn't bring any h/w to Japan, so can't try anything here | 22:06 |
| smurray | ouch | 22:06 |
| fury | what's ther diff between agl-demo-platform-crosssdk-* and not crosssdk? they both have rpi-sdimg but i thought the crosssdk build was just for generating the stuff in sdk/ | 22:07 |
| smurray | no idea, tbh | 22:12 |
| smurray | I've never needed to use the SDK | 22:13 |
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