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| CTtpollard | hi | 09:03 |
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| CTtpollard | sad day over here :/ | 09:57 |
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| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, such a disaster :( | 10:27 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: yes :( Manchester is a strong city, we'll get through it | 10:30 |
| leon-anavi | yes, you will | 10:32 |
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| dl9pf_ | leon-anavi: got the link for the flags needed for rpi2 ? | 14:01 |
| leon-anavi | yes, thank you: agl-medium-arm-compiler | 14:01 |
| dl9pf_ | And likely GPU_MEM is too high with the newer kernels | 14:01 |
| leon-anavi | ok, is there a recommended value? | 14:02 |
| dl9pf_ | 255 | 14:02 |
| dl9pf_ | aka <256M as this is the current check in the kernel | 14:02 |
| dl9pf_ | for cma | 14:02 |
| dl9pf_ | that will go away again, but until then the more apps we start it will lock-up . | 14:03 |
| leon-anavi | ok, noted down. | 14:08 |
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| fury | ok so, i did a repo sync and built the raspberry pi image, i got it booting up and apps are actually opening now...am i supposed to be able to hear sound out the analog output or no? | 14:35 |
| fury | also, hugs to everyone in manchester :( if you need me to go and stab anybody in the face for you, let me know | 14:36 |
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| CTtpollard | :) | 14:44 |
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| smurray | fury: there's some issue atm with the apps not being able to connect to PulseAudio on master | 15:05 |
| smurray | fury: we're poking around to figure out what's causing it | 15:05 |
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| fury | ah. i figured it was trying to output to hdmi or something, so i hooked up an hdmi monitor and some speakers, but no dice. anything i can do to help track it down? | 15:22 |
| CTtpollard | is audiomanager service running? | 15:23 |
| CTtpollard | if AGL is still using it | 15:23 |
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| fury | CTtpollard: looks like it, media player app is just not connecting | 15:27 |
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| fury | hehe that's pretty neat, i can still connect to it over bluetooth and the media player can get the track info and forward/back controls even tho the audio's coming over the phone | 15:33 |
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| smurray | CTtpollard: audiomanager is running, it's something lower level related to permissions | 15:37 |
| smurray | fury: yes, I've observed that as well | 15:37 |
| fury | cool, i just got the media player to crash :D | 15:47 |
| fury | on a rpi3, USB flash drive plugged in with one wav file, paired and connected my iphone and played for a while (albeit with no audio), then disconnected the iphone, media player went back to displaying the track it found on the flash drive, i tried to select it (again knowing i wouldn't hear anything) and it crashed | 15:48 |
| fury | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/2OCfDbcK/ | 15:48 |
| fury | log starts at the bluetooth disconnect | 15:49 |
| fury | started the media player application and tried again, it crashed again | 15:49 |
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| smurray | fury: anything that uses PA is borked atm | 16:09 |
| fury | makes sense... was hoping (or not hoping :D) that i found a bug caused by disconnecting bluetooth and trying to play | 16:10 |
| smurray | fury: that's still possible, but it's hard to say atm | 16:11 |
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| mdp | you can workaround by explicitly starting the PA daemon: "systemctl start --user pulseaudio" before running any apps | 16:27 |
| mdp | it appear socket activation unit is not enabled in latest builds | 16:28 |
| mdp | as smurray mentions, we're sifting through the yuuuge pile of changes since the last known good builds (for me, that was 0512) | 16:30 |
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| fury | mdp: sweet, thanks for the tip! I was fixing to run all the way back to chinook cause I'm not quite sure how to roll the repo back in time like that | 16:46 |
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| fury | I'm sure y'all have thought of this already, but did upgrading to pulseaudio 9 have anything to do with it? e.g. a bb recipe to enable socket activation that's only set to operate on 8 | 17:05 |
| dl9pf_ | mdp: pulseaudio daemon not being started at all on bootup ? | 17:07 |
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| smurray | fury: the upgrade to PA 9 was back in January | 17:07 |
| mdp | This is since 0512 | 17:07 |
| fury | oh, whoops | 17:07 |
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| mdp | dl9pf_: yup..normally it's socket activated and I double-checked that behavior on my 0512 build as true. | 17:09 |
| mdp | On a current build I noted that the pulseaudio.socket unit isn't even enabled | 17:10 |
| mdp | So that's a problem | 17:10 |
| mranostay | mdp: explains my fun last night.. SPEC-611 | 17:13 |
| mdp | Yeah, we started some debug until you left coasters arrived ;) | 17:14 |
| mdp | I'll paste some info on there | 17:14 |
| mdp | In* | 17:14 |
| mranostay | mdp: center of the universe needs some sleep :P | 17:17 |
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| mdp | +1 | 17:29 |
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| mdp | mranostay: I created spec-612 with some cause information and linked to your specific case in spec-611 | 17:51 |
| mdp | mranostay: if you check the log, you should see piles of "Could not initialize supporting library." that errupt from Qt's gstreamer backend and the PA plugin that fails to connect. | 17:52 |
| dl9pf_ | hmm , so likely PA recipes changes ?! | 17:59 |
| smurray | dl9pf_: I don't see anything from upstream | 18:00 |
| fury | homescreen fails to start sometimes... ever seen that? | 18:00 |
| smurray | fury: yep | 18:01 |
| smurray | fury: pretty sure there's a JIRA issue for that | 18:02 |
| fury | sweet. i ought to check that out some time | 18:02 |
| fury | i keep bringing up stuff y'all already know about :D | 18:02 |
| smurray | heh, it's all good, definitely need more testers | 18:02 |
| fury | well, i tried the systemctl start --user pulseaudio before running anything, i get some hissing out of my speakers but media player still crashes when i try to play something :o | 18:03 |
| fury | that's pretty cool | 18:03 |
| fury | do i need to do it before or after the home screen starts? | 18:05 |
| smurray | fury: see https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-575 , that's likely the same issue | 18:05 |
| smurray | I imagine just before you start any apps should be fine | 18:05 |
| fury | looks about right - https://pastebin.com/HEHZPfd5 | 18:06 |
| fury | ASKDHGASKLFJL i got audio this time woo | 18:10 |
| fury | not sure what I did differently | 18:10 |
| fury | unplugged the pi, plugged it in, ssh'd in as soon as i could, systemctl start --user pulseaudio, went to media player, tapped the file that's on the USB flash drive, it started playing (though really choppy) | 18:10 |
| fury | last reboot, i did that exact same thing and mediaplayer crashed instead | 18:10 |
| fury | trying bluetooth now, but performance is not great, getting a lot of frame reassembly failed / sbc decoding error | 18:11 |
| fury | better sound than the porter tho :D | 18:11 |
| mdp | smurray: strangely, I started getting the 575-like behavior on my Nteenth boot of my porter build | 18:11 |
| mdp | Failed to create display | 18:11 |
| smurray | fury: are you using the rpi built-in BT or a USB adapter? | 18:12 |
| fury | built in Bluetooth | 18:12 |
| fury | i can try the cinolink adapter, does that work better? | 18:12 |
| smurray | there's a chance it may, yes | 18:13 |
| fury | i recall having the same frame reassembly failed / sbc decoding errors on raspbian the last time i tried it, maybe there's some problem in the hardware | 18:13 |
| smurray | the firmware in the CSR ones is more of a known quantity | 18:13 |
| fury | does it know to keep separate pairing lists for different bluetooth radios or do i need to manually forget/re-pair? | 18:14 |
| smurray | heh, no idea, tbh | 18:15 |
| fury | or does it even know to use the CSR radio when it's plugged in O_o guess i'm bout to find out :D | 18:15 |
| smurray | it should, the driver is there | 18:17 |
| fury | sweet, paired up, got a second "raspberrypi3" entry in my phone's pairing list, i take it that means it's a different radio | 18:17 |
| fury | much better performance than the built in pi bluetooth | 18:18 |
| fury | really long buffer tho | 18:19 |
| fury | weird, still getting "No carrier" in afb-daemon and mediaplayer...is that gonna happen regardless of the fact that i started pulseaudio manually? | 18:19 |
| mdp | unpossible. rpi3 is a finely engineered machine, it can't possibly have worse performance than a cheap usb bt dongle ;) | 18:20 |
| fury | hahah | 18:20 |
| fury | what'd i expect for a $35 computer, i guess | 18:20 |
| fury | gah, i need another gechic display, someone's "borrowed" it for some other demo they want to do | 18:21 |
| fury | the AGL demo home screen is a little tiny on the pi 7" :P | 18:21 |
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| fury | rygel is sending SSDP packets all over the place, is that normal? May 17 14:53:50 raspberrypi3 rygel[692]: ** (rygel:692): WARNING **: Error sending SSDP packet to 192.168.1.24: Error sending message: Invalid argument | 18:23 |
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| smurray | I see those rygel messages as well, might be worth filing a JIRA issue over. I suspect we can get away with disabling rygel in the default install, I don't believe anything uses it | 18:24 |
| smurray | for the "No carrier" messages, I've no idea, I do see them and wasn't sure if they're intentional debug stuff or not | 18:25 |
| mranostay | guess the afm changes are big enough need to rebuild my SDKs | 18:27 |
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| mdp | fury: I've been seeing them too..it's annoying..please file an issue | 18:30 |
| mdp | better from you than me ;) | 18:30 |
| fury | will do :D | 18:30 |
| mdp | fury, assign to mranostay ;) | 18:30 |
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| fury | so i think i may be at the point where i need to write a "hello world" AGL app (except instead of telling the user hello world, i'd like to connect to a given IP and send that over the network) | 19:56 |
| fury | is the AGL SDK to a point where i could do that? looks like https://jira.automotivelinux.org/projects/SPEC/issues/SPEC-247 is still open so maybe not, or maybe it's just a matter of command lines which i'm comfortable with learning | 19:57 |
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| fury | managed to learn the setup/bitbake process, so shouldn't be too terribly hard i guess :D | 19:59 |
| smurray | fury: we're making progress on the PA issue, I think | 20:04 |
| smurray | fury: I'm about to test a fix locally | 20:04 |
| fury | sweet :D i'm rerunning bitbake with the latest build to get ready to test too | 20:05 |
| fury | eeeeeh, qt 5.8. i mght be here a while :P | 20:05 |
| smurray | heh, my change will trigger a massive rebuild | 20:05 |
| fury | awesome | 20:05 |
| fury | need to exercise all these cores anyway :D | 20:06 |
| smurray | plus you'll likely have to cherry-pick it for now, I think there might be some delay on merging it due to timezones | 20:06 |
| fury | ERROR: When reparsing /home/build/agl/meta-agl-demo/recipes-platform/images/agl-demo-platform-crosssdk.bb.do_image_rpi_sdimg_ota, the basehash value changed from 277f03a4e561d7043ecaf47338cf1d30 to 0fff9f17711300d5a443cbecaab4c863. The metadata is not deterministic and this needs to be fixed. | 20:06 |
| fury | is that normal when building crosssdk? | 20:06 |
| smurray | I'm not a SDK user, sorry | 20:06 |
| fury | that's ok, me either (yet?) | 20:06 |
| smurray | I do know there has been some recent discussion about some Qt bits missing in the SDK, so it might be a bit dodgy atm | 20:07 |
| fury | ah ok | 20:08 |
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| smurray | I don't see a JIRA issue right off, might have been on the mailing list | 20:08 |
| mdp | smurray: you can't touch anything at that plumbing level without rebuilding the world of frameworks these days ;) | 20:14 |
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| mranostay | fury: yeah seen that.. won't call it normal. but the SDK still will build :) | 20:55 |
| fury | https://jira.automotivelinux.org/projects/SPEC/issues/SPEC-147 | 21:03 |
| fury | google auto link? guessing that was the old codename for android auto...in which case, guessing that's gonna be a wontfix lol | 21:04 |
| dl9pf_ | smurray: "pulseaudio: fix service/socket unit installation" is all we need ? | 21:12 |
| smurray | dl9pf_: yes, that fixes PA startup here | 21:14 |
| smurray | dl9pf_: I'm working on another fix for the audiomanage stuff, I stumbled upon the root of that while digging, one of Isogai's changes didn't make it to master | 21:14 |
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| fury | downloading that change, building :D | 21:45 |
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| fury | whew | 22:27 |
| fury | agl took a long time to start up for some reason | 22:27 |
| fury | was a little worried O_o | 22:27 |
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| fury | woo, i still crashed the media player by trying to play a song off a flash drive :D | 22:28 |
| fury | is it supposed to be really choppy trying to play .wav files off a flash drive? | 22:30 |
| fury | (second time i opened it up it didn't crash - https://pastebin.com/vVGMVHs9 ) | 22:30 |
| mranostay | fury: got any .oggs to test? | 22:30 |
| fury | should be able to dig some up yeah | 22:31 |
| fury | uhh | 22:32 |
| fury | i rhink i just broke it again lol | 22:32 |
| fury | i changed the mixer volume to 100% cause it was too quiet, now May 17 14:55:35 raspberrypi3 pulseaudio[986]: W: [pulseaudio] module-loopback.c: Sample rates too different, not adjusting (44100 vs. 179554). | 22:32 |
| fury | every 10 seconds a bigger number | 22:32 |
| fury | audio stopped playing | 22:32 |
| fury | gah | 22:32 |
| fury | i have to go home anyway, i'll try this in the morning with a fresh boot and whatnot | 22:33 |
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| fury | other than the above mentioned issues, smurray, pulseaudio did work for me without having to start it manually :D | 22:35 |
| fury | so your change works for me too | 22:35 |
| smurray | fury: okay, thanks | 22:35 |
| fury | np | 22:36 |
| fury | gotta run, have a good one y'all | 22:36 |
| smurray | you too | 22:38 |
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