IRC logs for #automotive for Wednesday, 2016-10-26

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leon-anavimorning05:50
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dl9pfHi Leon!06:26
dl9pfcan't wait for the ostree build for the pi to finish ;)06:26
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leon-anavihi dl9pf :)06:58
leon-anaviRight now I am building the latest version from scratch for another test and this afternoon I will build it again with Anton's patch.06:58
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jobolhello07:19
leon-anavihi jobol07:29
leon-anaviI am exploring pandoc. It seems as a great tool :) Thank you for pointing it out yesterday.07:29
leon-anaviIt is a shame that I was not aware about it before the meeting yesterday :)07:30
jobolyes there is fun with this kind of tools07:30
jobolI also looked at readthedoc07:30
jobolso I plan to try mkdocs that is compatible with readthedoc and that provides a better support that my poor updt.sh scripts07:31
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dl9pfjobol: is Ronan here on irc ?07:40
joboldl9pf, He is coming... soon07:41
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leon-anaviaccording to my first impression pandoc seems fantastic. It could even merge several md files together and convert them to another format :)07:48
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dl9pfhttps://paste.debian.net/889947/08:19
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jobolleon-anavi, that is exactly how we produced pdf files starting from md fragments08:25
leon-anavinice08:26
jobolbut to improve the esthetic we had an intermediate step (manual) with open document format08:26
joboland libreoffice08:26
dl9pfjobol: if I see a08:30
dl9pfmkdir: can't create directory 'mnt2': Invalid argument08:30
dl9pfcan that be the security framework / xattr ?08:30
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dl9pfjobol: what kernel options are required for the appfw to come up ?09:00
dl9pfCONFIG_SMACK, CONFIG_DEFAULT_SECURITY_SMACK, CONFIG_SECURITY_SMACK_NETFILTER   ?09:00
dl9pfanything else ?09:00
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toscalixyou can tell when AGL or GENIVI has an AMM event because of the silence the following week09:26
toscalixbtw leon-anavi congrats for the award09:27
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leon-anavihi toscalix welcome back and thank you :)09:41
leon-anavihow are you? how was the event?09:41
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leon-anavihi CTtpollard09:41
CTtpollardhey09:42
toscalixIt was my first AMM at the US09:42
toscalixThere were a couple of outstanding talks, specially related with security, in my opinion09:43
leon-anaviis the audience very different from the AMM in Europe?09:43
toscalixmore business and less technical, that was my impression09:44
toscalixI liked again the demo showcase09:44
toscalixcool stuff09:44
toscalixon the lowpoints, the hands on sessions has less attendees than Paris09:44
toscalixhad09:44
leon-anaviI like cool demos sorry that I missed this part :)09:44
toscalixI really like irdeto and Marten Michos talks. Really good09:45
toscalixliked09:45
leon-anaviare videos expected?09:45
toscalixI do not know. I will ask09:46
toscalixtalks in small roms were not recorded for sure, but at the main room.... I will ask09:46
toscalixAs GDP matures, obviously more companies use it so I received more questions and more people approached me than in Paris09:49
toscalixGENIVI made more noise about it also09:49
toscalixSo I spend quite some time answering basic questions about GDP... and routing people to chbae since CTtpollard spent most of the time at the Hands on Session room09:50
toscalixs/spend/spent09:51
toscalixIt was the first AMM for nicholas, from IT and he did a good job enabling the hands on sessions09:52
toscalixchbae demoed the GDP with the new HMI developed by ICS with the layout from the graphics team09:53
toscalixHe did it at the BIT/GDP talk09:53
toscalixNext time it should have done at the keynote09:53
toscalixpeople like live demos09:53
toscalixNext time it should be done at the keynote.... I am not in shape :-)09:54
CTtpollard:)09:54
leon-anavisounds very good :)09:55
leon-anaviwe all love live demos but they are always tricky :) it is great that the demos were working so good at the AMM. This is an excellent advertisement for the platform :)09:57
toscalixwe practiced at ELCE ;-)10:08
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toscalixlooking forward for that video10:09
RzRyea a show without demos is not show10:09
toscalixRzR it seems at ELCE you had quite a success with the demo10:11
RzRI don't know , but what I learnt there10:12
toscalixELCE is a good place to have a booth for AGL and GENIVI10:12
RzRis that many product makers are looking to add connectivity features to their products10:12
RzRand they don't know how10:12
RzRso I hope I gave them good hints w/ ocf/iotivity10:12
toscalixthe same applies to GDP. Connectivity is a thing10:12
RzRtoscalix, so maybe I should try to refresh my Pull request to gdp10:13
toscalixquite a few companies were very happy to see wifi on RPi310:13
toscalixRzR refresing is good even in heavy winter10:13
joboldl9pf, (i'm back) yes10:15
jobolnothing else IIRC10:15
toscalixI am also looking forward to dl9pf talk at ELCE. It was at the same time that the GDP one10:15
toscalixthe video I mean10:16
RzRdl9pf, hi no more dirty cows in the farmer field ?10:16
toscalixdl9pf: let us know when the slides are published10:16
RzRupload there too10:17
RzRhttp://elinux.org/ELC_Europe_2016_Presentations10:17
toscalixah, ok10:18
toscalixI will10:18
toscalixah, dl9pf are there10:19
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dl9pftoscalix: they're up, yes11:24
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adrien974Hello11:43
adrien974Any news about https://github.com/magnusfeuer/m1 for rpi3 ?11:44
toscalixRzR: slides added. Thanks for pointing me there11:45
RzRyou're welcome11:46
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Mathieu_DuHey, anyone around with working knowledge of the AudioManager design ?12:30
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CTtpollardhey philrob15:28
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toscalixOn Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/elce16-berlin-open-discussion-automotive-st%C3%A9phane-desneux?trk=hp-feed-article-title-like17:29
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furyhi guys17:40
furyhow's it hangin?17:40
leon-anavihi fury17:48
furyhiya :D17:48
furyso i've been compiling agl for the last few days... i'm 0 for 3 on running the AGL demos from CES/ALS - tried on a raspberry pi 3, r-car porter m2, and wandboard... on the former 2, seems there's a known issue SPEC-268 or SPEC-270, arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were incorrect, assertion "_dbus_check_is_valid_path (path)" failed in file ../../dbus-1.10.6/dbus/dbus-message.c line 134417:51
furyon the wandboard, there is a splash screen that shows up that never proceeds17:52
furyi can switch to a terminal by pressing various ctrl+alt+fN keys17:52
furyand then log in as root, but not sure where to go to figure out what happened from there17:52
furyall were built from the master i downloaded as of a day or two ago17:52
furymain goal is to hook up to something embedded (those are a few of the boards I have access to - i also have others, but not sure how to tell what BSPs are built in right now, fairly new at playing around with AGL). basically just want to plug in a touchscreen to it, maybe some speakers, and see it do stuff, even if i have to manually type some stuff to pair it up to a phone or whatever17:57
leon-anaviyes, unfortunately this is a known issue in the master branch. You may try the stable releases of AGL for Renesas.17:58
leon-anavi... Renesas Porter board.17:58
furycool :) is there an easy way to switch to that repo and compile only what's changed between now and then, or do i need to clean build and redo it all? (I clocked in at about a 5.5 hour compile :D)17:58
furyalso saw something about the renesas driver release being incompatible with the older stable branch18:00
leon-anavi5.5 just to compile?18:00
furyyeah18:00
leon-anaviwithout the download?18:00
furyyeah18:00
furyhad already done most of the downloads when i compiled for pi and wandboard, all it had to fetch were the porter kernel/whatnots18:01
furyit was pegging the CPU 100% all night18:01
leon-anavisorry to hear that. Probably you need more powerful build machine.18:01
furyyeah18:01
furyquad core laptop lol18:01
leon-anaviregarding Renesas drivers - I had exactly the same problem. They do not provide older versions on their website.18:02
furyi have a quad core desktop here, but no spare SSD to dual boot between windows/linux...might have to go bug the IT department and see if he would lend me one18:02
leon-anavior at least I didn't notice the older versions on the their website18:02
furyif i could get the wandboard up and running with some version, that would be a good starting place for me, as i already have a custom carrier board built around it that adds a tuner, apple auth chip, and DSP, would be looking to integrate ipod stuff and other fun things18:05
leon-anaviI don't have wandboard so I don't have experience with it.18:06
furyi'm not very impressed thus far, but maybe it's due to my inexperience with linux on embedded stuff. i fought with it for a while just trying to get a kernel recompiled with spidev user space support, and without breaking 3 of the 8 GPIO outputs18:07
leon-anavion what kind of project are you working on?18:08
furyinfotainment18:08
furyworked for the last 6 years in, by comparison, simple head unit systems based on microcontrollers, it's been too long and need to get up to speed on the real fun stuff (GUIs, touchscreens, super advanced, etc.)18:09
leon-anavithere is plenty of work to be done for this stuff in AGL :)18:12
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furymy first big goal is to get a touchscreen demo going so that i can physically see it working, as that seems like a big motivator for me, i played around with an older Qt car IVI UI mockup and it got the gears spinning in the brain for what's possible...18:14
furythen after i have that proof of concept, the first real task i'd like to accomplish is either write a usb driver for ipod accessory functionality (or find one out there on the internets?) or implement it over bluetooth, whichever is easier18:15
furyi have usb/bluetooth stacks written for my microcontroller code, some of which may be portable (moreso the higher level USB/iAP stuff, not so much the Bluetooth stuff since it's not made for BlueZ)18:16
furyso if there's any of that going yet or it is desirable, i'd like to hop in and help however i can :D18:19
furybut complete newbie at writing linux drivers and whatnot, so may be slow to start18:19
furyi've managed to do a few user space apps which control i2c and talk to the apple auth chip or a tuner, that's about it18:20
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leon-anaviwhich touch screen do you plan to use?18:23
leon-anavithe built-in bluetooth on rpi3 is known to work in AGL: https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/bluetooth18:24
furyi've got a chalkboard electronics 7" 1280x800 or a raspberry pi display but can use whatever is good18:34
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leon-anaviit's a bit late here so I will be going, see you tomorrow.18:37
furycool, have a good one :)18:37
leon-anavifury, you too and stay in touch :)18:38
furywill do :D18:38
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furyanyone have a prebuilt raspberry pi 3 image that's working?19:34
furythe one from here https://download.automotivelinux.org/AGL/snapshots/master/latest/raspberrypi3/deploy/images/raspberrypi3/ doesn't for me (aforementioned SPEC-270 issue)19:35
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