IRC logs for #automotive for Wednesday, 2016-07-27

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CTtpollardmorning07:27
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Guest30660hey is GDP 10 gone or something?08:38
CTtpollardGuest30660: gone it what sense?08:39
CTtpollard*in what08:39
Guest30660CTtpollard: I tried doing everything from scratch today, cloned from master and it says its beta 11, cant find 1008:39
CTtpollardGuest30660: unfortunately GDP / meta-ivi is broken right now. But yes the master branch have moved forward to be ivi11 based08:41
CTtpollardGuest30660: you can check out an older commit if you need to use the ivi10 based GDP, but due to upstream issues it can't build from scratch08:42
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toscalixGuest30660: we decided to not release GDP 10 and move directly to GDP 1108:52
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chbaeHello11:34
CTtpollardhi chbae11:35
chbaeCTtpollard: Hi.11:35
rajmHi chbae!11:36
chbaeHi rajm :)11:36
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toscalixleon-anavi: thank you for the update in the ticket13:08
leon-anavitoscalix, you are welcome13:08
jeremiahCan someone explain why meta-ivi cannot be built?13:08
jeremiahWhat needs to be done to fix that?13:08
CTtpollardjeremiah: either tolkien merges his PR's or the missing branches stopping some recipes in meta-ivi from building need to re-instated on git.projects13:12
jeremiahMerge which pull requests? From what to where?13:12
CTtpollardjeremiah: meta-ivi13:12
jeremiahWe're getting a back up of every branch and all history from the Linux Foundation13:13
jeremiahSo we'll be able to create the git repos13:13
CTtpollardI've provided tolkien with a fix, which he has submitted as a PR to meta-ivi. I'm hoping he merges it soon13:13
jeremiahAh, okay.13:14
jeremiahThat seems like the most expedient fix no?13:14
CTtpollardbitbake likes to fall over if it can't find a commit in a stated branch, but you can override that13:14
jeremiahOh I see. And we prefer not to create a bunch of appends right?13:15
jeremiahThat would not make sense13:15
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CTtpollardin terms of meta-ivi and GDP it is a good enough fix for us. I can't comment on any other projects (or the project repos themselves) which might have been reliant on specific branches13:15
CTtpollardi.e stuff not using meta-ivi recipes to build genivi software13:15
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jeremiahAh, right, fair point13:16
jeremiahWell we're in the process of getting all branches and all history in place, so hopefully that will occur soon13:16
CTtpollardthanks :)13:18
toscalixjeremiah: we do not want to override. As you pointed, it is not ideal. So I would be happier if we can avoid it13:19
toscalixStephen during the BIT call agreed on that also13:19
toscalixso I assume tolkien will not merge unless neccessary13:19
jeremiahtoscalix: But it is necessary no?13:22
jeremiahI tolkien part of the discussion?13:23
toscalixin the bit call he was there, yes13:23
jeremiahSo he knows there are pull requests right?13:23
jeremiahIs he planning to act on them?13:23
jeremiahOr is there another plan of action?13:23
toscalixThe agreement on the BIT call was to wait for you to tell us which one is the best solution. We do not know what tools you have to fix it. If you do not have a better proposal, then we will have to13:25
toscalixbut we will not do it before listening to you13:25
jeremiahUnfortunately we're flying blind with the LF -- we have no shell access so cannot act quickly. We have to wait for them to respond to the helpdesk tickets we've submitted.13:25
jeremiahI've got a helpdesk ticket in for complete repo backup with all history and all branches for every repo13:26
toscalixMy recommendation would be that you send a mail answering mine with the options and maybe in the GDP call we can take a decision of how to proceed13:26
jeremiahtoscalix: Okay, will do. But perhaps we decide now so we can act and I document later?13:26
jeremiahI'd like to remove whatever blockers you guys have if I can13:27
toscalixsince tolkien is not available, I would prefer to have stephen involved on the decision13:27
toscalixhe leads the BIT team, not me13:27
jeremiahBut Stephan is not the meta-ivi maintainer13:27
toscalixtolkien will act tomorrow so he cannot do anything now13:28
toscalixso in fact, we have this afternoon to take the decision13:28
jeremiahI think we should have taken the shortest path to the fix13:29
toscalixthis morning, at the BIT call, the situation was unclear to us so we did not want to go that way. If that is the conclusion, then we do it tomorrow morning in both, meta-ivi and gdp, and we define a new release schedule for both13:30
jeremiahOkay13:30
jeremiahDoes GDP have a branch policy? In otherwords, do you require tags or specific branches to be used in GENIVI components? Or do you use whatever meta-ivi uses?13:31
toscalixwhen it comes to meta-ivi, we use it as it comes13:31
jeremiahI think at one point in the BIT we required that the relevant code that the baseline was supposed to build had a tag so that we knew which SHA to use13:32
toscalixfor us meta-ivi is just another genivi" component"13:32
jeremiahI wonder if it would help the BIT to go back to component maintainers to ensure that component maintainers are using a consistent branch naming mechanism13:32
CTtpollardmeta-ivi11 has one recipe that relied on a branch, it's a simple 1 flag fix to not require that branch13:33
CTtpollardhaving had to wait for LF tickets before, I'd rather not13:33
jeremiahCTtpollard: Agree strongly13:33
CTtpollardwe should aim to re-instate all the branches on git.projects (I'm sure some maintainers will not be happy when they realise) but it should not stop ivi/GDP development13:36
CTtpollardin many cases said maintainers might be able to repopulate the branches from local checkouts13:37
toscalixCTtpollard: I disagree. Delivery does not control developers code13:37
jeremiahtoscalix: Its integration, much more than delivery13:37
jeremiahThe code has to be in a consistent state for integration, for example we impose the requirement that the code be in git13:38
CTtpollardtoscalix: I'm not saying it does13:38
toscalixagree, then either developers fix it or like now, there is an escalation and we get the ok to do it ourselves. But by default... no we won't13:39
jeremiahOkay, but that leaves us with unpatched bugs that could have security implications13:40
jeremiahNot saying that is what we have now, but it opens the door to that13:40
jeremiahWe have to be able to patch recipes and components for release and then send the patches upstream13:40
jeremiahIdeally we communicate to the maintainer as soon as we're aware of the issue, but if we get no response and we have a release deadline, I feel we need to have the flexibility to improve the release to release on time13:41
toscalixjeremiah, then please answer the mail sent this morning and remomend that solution. We will execute it together with tolkien tomorrow morning.13:42
jeremiahOkay super.13:44
jeremiahI'll contact Stephen to make sure he agrees13:44
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CTtpollardthanks chbae14:51
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ThundarAnyone be so kind as to direct me to a channel that might help with auto parts? specifically procuring a replacement of something old?20:44
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