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leon-anavi | morning | 06:49 |
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CTtpollard | morning | 07:27 |
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Guest30660 | hey is GDP 10 gone or something? | 08:38 |
CTtpollard | Guest30660: gone it what sense? | 08:39 |
CTtpollard | *in what | 08:39 |
Guest30660 | CTtpollard: I tried doing everything from scratch today, cloned from master and it says its beta 11, cant find 10 | 08:39 |
CTtpollard | Guest30660: unfortunately GDP / meta-ivi is broken right now. But yes the master branch have moved forward to be ivi11 based | 08:41 |
CTtpollard | Guest30660: you can check out an older commit if you need to use the ivi10 based GDP, but due to upstream issues it can't build from scratch | 08:42 |
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toscalix | Guest30660: we decided to not release GDP 10 and move directly to GDP 11 | 08:52 |
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chbae | Hello | 11:34 |
CTtpollard | hi chbae | 11:35 |
chbae | CTtpollard: Hi. | 11:35 |
rajm | Hi chbae! | 11:36 |
chbae | Hi rajm :) | 11:36 |
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toscalix | leon-anavi: thank you for the update in the ticket | 13:08 |
leon-anavi | toscalix, you are welcome | 13:08 |
jeremiah | Can someone explain why meta-ivi cannot be built? | 13:08 |
jeremiah | What needs to be done to fix that? | 13:08 |
CTtpollard | jeremiah: either tolkien merges his PR's or the missing branches stopping some recipes in meta-ivi from building need to re-instated on git.projects | 13:12 |
jeremiah | Merge which pull requests? From what to where? | 13:12 |
CTtpollard | jeremiah: meta-ivi | 13:12 |
jeremiah | We're getting a back up of every branch and all history from the Linux Foundation | 13:13 |
jeremiah | So we'll be able to create the git repos | 13:13 |
CTtpollard | I've provided tolkien with a fix, which he has submitted as a PR to meta-ivi. I'm hoping he merges it soon | 13:13 |
jeremiah | Ah, okay. | 13:14 |
jeremiah | That seems like the most expedient fix no? | 13:14 |
CTtpollard | bitbake likes to fall over if it can't find a commit in a stated branch, but you can override that | 13:14 |
jeremiah | Oh I see. And we prefer not to create a bunch of appends right? | 13:15 |
jeremiah | That would not make sense | 13:15 |
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CTtpollard | in terms of meta-ivi and GDP it is a good enough fix for us. I can't comment on any other projects (or the project repos themselves) which might have been reliant on specific branches | 13:15 |
CTtpollard | i.e stuff not using meta-ivi recipes to build genivi software | 13:15 |
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jeremiah | Ah, right, fair point | 13:16 |
jeremiah | Well we're in the process of getting all branches and all history in place, so hopefully that will occur soon | 13:16 |
CTtpollard | thanks :) | 13:18 |
toscalix | jeremiah: we do not want to override. As you pointed, it is not ideal. So I would be happier if we can avoid it | 13:19 |
toscalix | Stephen during the BIT call agreed on that also | 13:19 |
toscalix | so I assume tolkien will not merge unless neccessary | 13:19 |
jeremiah | toscalix: But it is necessary no? | 13:22 |
jeremiah | I tolkien part of the discussion? | 13:23 |
toscalix | in the bit call he was there, yes | 13:23 |
jeremiah | So he knows there are pull requests right? | 13:23 |
jeremiah | Is he planning to act on them? | 13:23 |
jeremiah | Or is there another plan of action? | 13:23 |
toscalix | The agreement on the BIT call was to wait for you to tell us which one is the best solution. We do not know what tools you have to fix it. If you do not have a better proposal, then we will have to | 13:25 |
toscalix | but we will not do it before listening to you | 13:25 |
jeremiah | Unfortunately we're flying blind with the LF -- we have no shell access so cannot act quickly. We have to wait for them to respond to the helpdesk tickets we've submitted. | 13:25 |
jeremiah | I've got a helpdesk ticket in for complete repo backup with all history and all branches for every repo | 13:26 |
toscalix | My recommendation would be that you send a mail answering mine with the options and maybe in the GDP call we can take a decision of how to proceed | 13:26 |
jeremiah | toscalix: Okay, will do. But perhaps we decide now so we can act and I document later? | 13:26 |
jeremiah | I'd like to remove whatever blockers you guys have if I can | 13:27 |
toscalix | since tolkien is not available, I would prefer to have stephen involved on the decision | 13:27 |
toscalix | he leads the BIT team, not me | 13:27 |
jeremiah | But Stephan is not the meta-ivi maintainer | 13:27 |
toscalix | tolkien will act tomorrow so he cannot do anything now | 13:28 |
toscalix | so in fact, we have this afternoon to take the decision | 13:28 |
jeremiah | I think we should have taken the shortest path to the fix | 13:29 |
toscalix | this morning, at the BIT call, the situation was unclear to us so we did not want to go that way. If that is the conclusion, then we do it tomorrow morning in both, meta-ivi and gdp, and we define a new release schedule for both | 13:30 |
jeremiah | Okay | 13:30 |
jeremiah | Does GDP have a branch policy? In otherwords, do you require tags or specific branches to be used in GENIVI components? Or do you use whatever meta-ivi uses? | 13:31 |
toscalix | when it comes to meta-ivi, we use it as it comes | 13:31 |
jeremiah | I think at one point in the BIT we required that the relevant code that the baseline was supposed to build had a tag so that we knew which SHA to use | 13:32 |
toscalix | for us meta-ivi is just another genivi" component" | 13:32 |
jeremiah | I wonder if it would help the BIT to go back to component maintainers to ensure that component maintainers are using a consistent branch naming mechanism | 13:32 |
CTtpollard | meta-ivi11 has one recipe that relied on a branch, it's a simple 1 flag fix to not require that branch | 13:33 |
CTtpollard | having had to wait for LF tickets before, I'd rather not | 13:33 |
jeremiah | CTtpollard: Agree strongly | 13:33 |
CTtpollard | we should aim to re-instate all the branches on git.projects (I'm sure some maintainers will not be happy when they realise) but it should not stop ivi/GDP development | 13:36 |
CTtpollard | in many cases said maintainers might be able to repopulate the branches from local checkouts | 13:37 |
toscalix | CTtpollard: I disagree. Delivery does not control developers code | 13:37 |
jeremiah | toscalix: Its integration, much more than delivery | 13:37 |
jeremiah | The code has to be in a consistent state for integration, for example we impose the requirement that the code be in git | 13:38 |
CTtpollard | toscalix: I'm not saying it does | 13:38 |
toscalix | agree, then either developers fix it or like now, there is an escalation and we get the ok to do it ourselves. But by default... no we won't | 13:39 |
jeremiah | Okay, but that leaves us with unpatched bugs that could have security implications | 13:40 |
jeremiah | Not saying that is what we have now, but it opens the door to that | 13:40 |
jeremiah | We have to be able to patch recipes and components for release and then send the patches upstream | 13:40 |
jeremiah | Ideally we communicate to the maintainer as soon as we're aware of the issue, but if we get no response and we have a release deadline, I feel we need to have the flexibility to improve the release to release on time | 13:41 |
toscalix | jeremiah, then please answer the mail sent this morning and remomend that solution. We will execute it together with tolkien tomorrow morning. | 13:42 |
jeremiah | Okay super. | 13:44 |
jeremiah | I'll contact Stephen to make sure he agrees | 13:44 |
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CTtpollard | thanks chbae | 14:51 |
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Thundar | Anyone be so kind as to direct me to a channel that might help with auto parts? specifically procuring a replacement of something old? | 20:44 |
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