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khemarasbm: there is a chance that its built with wrong kernel params02:19
khemarasbm: Build your own vmdk02:19
khemadd IMAGE_FSTYPES_append = " vmdk "02:20
khemSYSLINUX_ROOT = "root=/dev/hda2"02:20
khemto conf/local.conf02:20
khemthis is one of most common problems where root is pointing to wrong partition by default02:20
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arasbmkhem: ok thanks. What code do I need to clone and build? I am looking at https://git.automotivelinux.org02:23
arasbmIs there a branch where the latest stable lives in?02:23
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arasbmI managed to load one of the images (agl-demo-platform-crosssdk-qemux86-64.vmdk) in virtual box. Linux loads and it opens up an empty desktop. There is a terminal icon on the top left and time is displayed on the top right. Right click does not bring a menu up. I am pretty sure this is not intended. There is no indication of what demo apps are available and how to run them.02:38
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khemarasbm: may be https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/gitweb?p=AGL/AGL-distro.git;a=summary02:42
khemor look here https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/gitweb?p=AGL/AGL-distro.git;a=blob;f=meta-agl-demo/README.md;h=dd08bc21dc809bb2276c1546b117a7188a3ec4e3;hb=17ab850d3ad5d55b6447930a9978c4c5456b8add02:42
khemREADME describes how to get the sources setup02:43
khemget repo tool02:43
khemmkdir ~/bin02:43
khemexport PATH=~/bin:$PATH02:43
khemcurl https://storage.googleapis.com/git-repo-downloads/repo > ~/bin/repo ; chmod a+x ~/bin/repo02:44
khemmkdir agl;cd agl02:44
khemrepo init -u https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/AGL/AGL-repo02:44
khemrepo sync02:44
khemsource meta-agl/scripts/envsetup.sh qemux86-6402:44
khembitbake agl-demo-platform02:44
khemthen go for a long coffee break :)02:45
khemoh dont forget to add the things I said after sourcing the envsetup.sh02:46
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arasbmkhem: thank you!04:47
khemyw05:09
arasbmkhem: I got a deprecated message when I run envsetup05:09
arasbmIt says I should run aglsetup.sh instead, you know about that?05:09
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khemoh ok then do so05:12
arasbmI can not find where that "aglsetup.sh" script is. I am going to try to proceed ignoring that warning and see what happens :/05:18
arasbmI had to "sudo apt-get install texinfo chrpath" to get rid of a couple of errors05:20
arasbmI am running "bitbake agl-demo-platform" but it is so late here, I hope it finishes in the next 30 min :P05:22
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khemnp sleep()06:10
khem:)06:10
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CTtpollardarasbm: I *think* you can boot an intel minnowboard image on an intel desktop with uefi07:17
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CTtpollardhas anyone built GDP in the last 24h from scratch? (i.e no sstate / dl)08:41
leon-anaviI haven't rebuilt GDP from scratch recently08:50
toscalixleon-anavi: I am cheching the updated software list for gdp. Anything that I should mentiuon from your end?08:52
CTtpollardleon-anavi: are you aware if bitbake handles '.x' in branch names in a special way  at all?08:52
toscalixchecking08:52
toscalixmention....boooo08:52
leon-anavitoscalix, ATS are doing some major changes in SOTA client. As soon as I have a confirmation that the new version is stable I will update the recipe in GDP.08:52
toscalixleon-anavi: next pre-release then. Good to know08:53
leon-anaviCTtpollard, sorry no08:53
CTtpollardleon-anavi: no problem, I have a feeling a branch has been deleted from a genivi upstream.... (in-fact all branches have)08:55
leon-anavioh08:55
leon-anaviif the branch is missing that definitely will be a problem not only for bitbake :)08:55
CTtpollardI'll fire off an email to the dlt guys08:56
CTtpollardleon-anavi: indeed, I prefer to point at tags where possible08:57
pak_hey, is image customization in GDP any different from normal? I'm following instructions from yocto manual but it seems to ignore everything I do09:16
CTtpollardpak_: it shouldn't be.... what are you aiming to do?09:17
pak_I'm trying to add benchmark tools09:17
CTtpollardpak_: so a specific package from meta-oe's benchmark recipes?09:19
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pak_pretty much all of mate-oe benchmark recipes09:20
CTtpollardpak_: ok so there's a few ways you could do it. Probably the easiest way would be to find / define a packagegroup for the tools you want, or adding them in a list with image install append in local.cong09:22
pak_So far I tried doing it with image_install_append but no effect, guess I must be doing something wrong09:23
CTtpollardpak_: could you share your local.conf file? pastebin etc09:24
pak_http://pastebin.com/G7uAnfXp09:27
CTtpollard pak_: add a space character before anaylyze-suspend09:29
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c0rnelhello09:30
c0rnelgenivi repos seems to have issues today again09:31
c0rnelrelated to this, the migration to github implies new URLs?09:31
CTtpollardc0rnel: what is your issue specifically09:31
c0rnelor the change will be more or less transparent to the user?09:32
c0rnelCTtpollard, my colleagues can't download again node-state-manager, dlt-daemon and friends09:32
c0rnelhonestly i did not check myself, this time09:32
CTtpollardc0rnel: I'm not sure how you're fetching the repos, but git clone 'http://' or https should work09:33
c0rnelCTtpollard,09:34
c0rnelthank you09:34
CTtpollardc0rnel: I'm aware of an issue with fetching dlt-daemon when using meta-ivi10 which I'm trying to resolve with the maintainers09:34
c0rnelstill, anybody can confirm that the migration to github will not imply a change in the repo urls?09:34
CTtpollardc0rnel: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/WIK4/2016/05/23/GitHub+and+git+migration09:36
c0rnelthank you CTtpollard !09:36
CTtpollardc0rnel: if you're having any other git issues, please take to genivi-projects mailing list09:37
CTtpollardor JIRA09:37
c0rnelok09:37
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CTtpollardpak_: did that jig bitbake into building them?09:43
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pak_CTtpollard: yes, thank you, I got occupied with handling build errors and forgot to let you know09:52
CTtpollardpak_: no problem :) if you find anything you want to add / change with GDP, feel free to send a PR09:53
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CTtpollardhi chbae12:36
chbaeHello CTtpollard.12:36
chbaeI’ll be back in an hour. :)12:37
CTtpollardchbae: ok I will merged poky2.1 modules to gdp master soon, just waiting one a final commit12:37
chbaeCTtpollard. I need to change meta-genivi-dev commit12:38
chbaeCTtpollard: I pushed to genivi-dev-platform for baseline11.12:42
CTtpollardchbae: yup, I will confirm when the meta-genivi-dev sha is final12:42
chbaeCTtpollard: You can merge my PR (https://github.com/GENIVI/genivi-dev-platform/pull/27/commits/61c12477ff2932710e43fecdd3d8599fea5f5e79)12:42
CTtpollardchbae: yes, as I say just waiting to hopefully include readme / init.sh changes12:43
chbaeYEP12:43
chbaeCTtpollard: I’ll change README file in meta-genivi-dev for dragonboard-410c12:44
CTtpollardchbae: what do you need to change?12:45
CTtpollardother than branch to krogoth after beta is branched12:46
chbaebranch name and revision in README12:46
CTtpollardunderstood12:46
CTtpollardafter we branch beta, we will update intel/qcom to krogoth12:46
chbaeHow about including dragonboard commit in this time? I already tested.12:47
chbaeFinally it should be included in master branch.12:47
CTtpollardchbae: beta branch will target qemu, after that master can include boards aiming for rc1 support12:50
CTtpollardchbae: i'm sure it does work :)12:50
chbaeyes. now I’ll push directly README change to master branch without PR12:51
CTtpollardrajm: once your changes are ready, please make them available to chbae so he can cherrypick it into his GDP PR12:53
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CTtpollardand then I will start packing the release image / sources12:54
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chbaeDone.12:57
CTtpollardchbae: I think the qcom upgrade with have to be a separate PR for after we've merged, ask toscalix13:00
chbaeOk. Now I’ll separate PR now.13:08
toscalixchbae: coordinate with rajm changes in readme.md file since he is accumulating several changes. He will go through PR for review13:09
chbaeHe will create PR to my repo? or genivi repo?13:09
toscalixgenivi repo, I assume13:09
chbaeCTtpollard: Please confirm this.13:09
CTtpollardIt will be easier to cherry-pick the commits onto the existing PR13:10
CTtpollardimo, like we did for meta-genivi-dev yesterday13:10
CTtpollardso it falls under the same merge commit13:10
chbaeThen rajm will create PR to my repo.13:10
chbaeand then I’ll cherry-pick his commit and use existed PR right?13:11
toscalixup to you guys13:11
chbaeyep. please request to my repo. :)13:11
chbaeNow it’s my working time.13:11
CTtpollardcool13:11
toscalixchbae: since this release is about qemu and we still need to test these latest changes for every target board, we will add a note in readme file and master explaining that we are in the process of supporting the different target boards, that will be release in RC113:12
toscalixthat way we reduce the impact for users13:12
toscalixright after the release we will start putting effort in the boards13:12
chbaeyes.13:12
toscalixfor RC113:12
toscalixchbae: this is what https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-319 is about13:13
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chbaeyep.13:14
chbaeCTtpollard: I remove dragonboard commit in current PR.13:16
chbaeI’ll cherry-pick rajm’s commit in my repo and then push to my repo. That will be final PR for GDP-11 beta.13:17
CTtpollardchbae: great, sorry for it being annoying13:17
chbaeCTtpollard: NP. very easy work :)13:17
chbaeAfter merging the commit, Can I merge dragonboard commit for gdp-11 in master branch or should I wait?13:18
CTtpollardchbae: straight to master for me13:20
CTtpollardchbae: I will be aiming to do the same for minnowboard in the next few days13:20
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chbaeyep.13:23
chbaeI hope that only meta-intel branch change for minnowboard :)13:24
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chbaerajm: when will you request pr?13:27
CTtpollardchbae: I hope the same, they have a krogoth branch to test13:29
chbaeyep.13:29
rajmchbae do you need my branch PR'ing to your repos or will you handle it?13:31
chbaeif you tell me about your branch, I can handle.13:31
chbaeyour branch and repo.13:31
chbaerajm: when will you finish your work?13:40
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CTtpollardchbae: rajm has emailed over the patches13:56
chbaeyep.13:56
chbaerajm: why two files?13:57
chbaeI’ll squash it.13:57
rajmok - it was on a new build machine - later corrections and a realisation I hadn't set the git user.name14:01
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CTtpollardrajm: don't worry about it :)14:02
chbaeramj and CTtpollard: Please review my PR.14:05
chbaeactually I didn’t test it.14:05
CTtpollardchbae: my only point would be is that some modules are not at the heads of krogoth branches, poky for example14:08
chbaeI follow the baseline release.14:08
CTtpollardchbae: yeh, that's why I haven't raised it as an issue :)14:09
chbae:)14:09
CTtpollardit can be part of rc114:09
chbaeyep.14:09
rajmMy only doubt about the bits in my script is that it does assume the user has a remote called origin but I decided adding more qualifications were going to drown the text in legalese!14:11
chbaerajm: why don’t you change MAINTAINER file in genivi-dev-platform?14:11
chbaerajm: if you have extra time, please change it. :)14:11
chbaerajm: what is correct between “rerun” and “re-run”?14:14
rajmyou mean meta-genivi-dev; I'll leave that for RC1 chbae I'm going to give my cold a lie down and hope to be in the Manchester office tomorrow when I'm not fighting vnc14:14
chbaeyep.14:14
chbaeNP..14:15
rajmI was going to say I'd tried both but I see both are still there ;-) I think re-run is the better one14:15
chbaeCTt14:15
chbaethanks. I’ll chage it.14:16
chbaeRC 1 -> RC114:16
chbaeDone.14:17
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CTtpollardchbae: are you happy for me to merge?14:24
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chbaeCTtpollard: I’m wondering why do we block all targets in master branch?14:29
chbaeI understand it’s applied in beta branch.14:29
chbaebut master branch ….14:29
CTtpollardchbae: because at the point in time only qemu will build, without changes14:30
CTtpollardchbae: once we start work on rc1, we can start to remove that14:30
chbaeCan we work GDP-11 beta in master branch?14:31
chbaeor create GDP-11 beta branch?14:31
CTtpollardchbae: beta branch is to be forked once this is merged14:31
chbaewhy don’t rajm’s commit is only applied forked branch?14:32
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CTtpollardchbae: the same thing applies to both branches on that commit, only qemu builds by default14:35
CTtpollardchbae: but if you really don't like it, remove it and we will change it afte r14:36
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chbaeCTtpollard: IMO master is development branch (keep going) and it’s good to apply rajm’s commit only for gdp-11 beta branch.14:39
chbaeSo master branch need to support all targets even though it’s not working properly.14:39
CTtpollardchbae: I think we agree, but I do not want users using init.sh to set up and environment that does not work. So for instance in master once you merge dragon board, change init.sh to let it pass14:40
CTtpollardfor instance after this merge, renesas targets won't even pass bitbake parsing until we get a 11/krogoth based meta-renesas14:41
chbaeyep but someone can contribute about our broken BSP in master branch.14:42
chbaeThen let’s merge current PR.14:43
chbaeand then we merge dragonboard and minnowboard commit. after that, let’s only block renesas board until it fixes.14:45
chbaeanother idea is that we can add force option.14:45
CTtpollard+!114:46
chbaelet’s merge.14:47
CTtpollardthere's definitely room for improvement going forward, we will learn from this cycle14:47
chbaeyep14:47
chbaeand then I’ll directly push to master about dragonboard commit.14:47
chbaetomorrow i’ll add force option :)14:47
CTtpollardmerged14:48
chbaegoo14:49
CTtpollardbeta branch created14:53
chbaeI pushed dragonboard commit to master14:54
toscalixleon-anavi: I would appreciate if you can add a summary of the plan to bring changes to RVI SOTA client in this ticket when you can or are ready https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-17315:00
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toscalixone or two sentences or a link to the right wiki page would be enough for now15:03
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leon-anavitoscalix, I was in a conference call. I will have  a look at the JIRA ticket.15:09
toscalixthanks leon15:16
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jeremiahIs anyone here trying to get into the W3C Automotive work group meeting?15:45
jeremiahI can seem to get in. :-)15:45
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jeremiahPaul Boyes is going to open the call shortly.15:57
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arasbmI built the source code on my ubuntu machine, is that ok? It looks like AGL is built on top of Fedora using redhat package manager, correct?16:04
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arasbmsorry for all the silly questions, I am pretty new to this, but excited16:04
jeremiaharasbm: Well, kinda sorta16:05
jeremiahAGL, like GENIVI, is built using Yocto16:06
jeremiahYocto can use a package management system and I think AGL uses rpms which is why you may think that its Fedora based16:06
jeremiahBut it isn't Fedora based because you'll find missing Fedora components, policy, etc.16:06
jeremiahInstead the distro used in Yocto is really poky16:07
jeremiahThough they don't claim it is a distro like Fedora, rather just a reference16:07
jeremiahYocto is a tool for "building custom distros"16:07
jeremiahBut its mostly used for embedded image building16:08
arasbmOk I see, so me building the code on my ubuntu machine should not cause issues as long as I have all the dependencies, right?16:08
jeremiaharasbm: I think Ubuntu is one of the distros that Yocto ensures works with their build system16:08
jeremiahSo yeah, you should have no problems16:09
jeremiahDependencies are handled differently however16:09
jeremiahIts not like a package based distro16:09
jeremiahInstead, everything is built into a little ball, an "image" for a particular hardware target16:09
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jeremiahThere is cross-compilation going on in the background, at least if you're building for Qemu for example16:10
jeremiahThis is why you downloaded all that source code from the yocto project; you're downloading all the dependencies in source code16:10
jeremiahThough there are times when you'll want certain build tools on your host16:11
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arasbmjeremiah, ok cool. So after I build the project using default configuration what do I get? Is there an image to try in virtual box?16:26
arasbmthe last command I ran was "bitbake agl-demo-platformls" and it finished16:26
arasbmSo is GENIVI actually a operating system intended for infotainment software like AGL? I do not see any download link or even link to source code on their website16:37
robin__anyone built AGL 2.0 by following the link http://iot.bzh/download/public/2016/bsp/AGL_Phase2-Devkit-Image_for_porter.pdf?16:38
robin__I got an error: ERROR: Fetcher failure: Fetch command failed with exit code 128, output:16:38
robin__Cloning into bare repository '/xdt/downloads/git2/git.projects.genivi.org.wayland-ivi-extension.git'...16:38
robin__fatal: unable to connect to git.projects.genivi.org:16:38
robin__git.projects.genivi.org[0: 38.101.164.229]: errno=Connection timed out16:38
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toscalixarasbm: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/GDP+Download+Page16:43
toscalixarasbm: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=1156721016:44
toscalixarasbm: https://github.com/GENIVI/genivi-dev-platform16:45
arasbmtoscalix, thank you. I will try to download the image first. I want to build it from code as well later. But I need something to show my colleague16:46
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toscalixthen gdp-ivi9 is the latest stable release16:46
toscalixarasbm: we are about to release GDP 11 beta in the coming days16:46
arasbmcool! I really hope I can convince my colleague to use either GENIVI or AGL. They both look very promising. I am just itching to try out some demo applications and show it off16:48
arasbmtoscalix, the link to download the latest stable image seems brocken: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/GDP+Download+Page#GDPDownloadPage-DownloadandrunthelatestGDPversion:16:49
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arasbmtoscalix, is there an image for GENIVI I could download and try right now?16:52
arasbmtoscalix, ok I found an ext4 image for GDP-ivi9 on that page you linked (the link further down the page worked). Downloading it now16:58
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arasbmI am also downloading the minnowboard image now. I hope one of them will work. I am installing it on an intel atom computer17:06
toscalixarasbm: in the download page you posted, if you go to the GDP-ivi9 section and expand it, you will see plenty of images related with GDP-ivi917:07
toscalixon a big table17:07
CTtpollardjeremiah: has someone been deleting branches within repos on git.projects?17:08
toscalixarasbm: ah, ok17:08
toscalixCTtpollard: hi17:10
toscalixI will have to leave in a few minutes. I am working on some social media messages17:11
arasbmtoscalix, thanks for your help!17:11
toscalixarasbm: np. I checked the downloads becasue the GENIVI infra is migrating this days to new servers so I was unsure it was working17:12
toscalixthese days17:12
CTtpollardjeremiah: in-fact no repo has branches on there....17:16
jeremiahCTtpollard: Bummer17:19
jeremiahI will have to get them from the maintainer17:19
jeremiahCTtpollard: I don't think anyone deleted branches, at least I hope not. Its not something I or Nick would do17:19
jeremiahIts not impossible that I missed them when I cloned a bunch of repos. I did it with a script that I thought pulled all branches, but there may have been a miss somewhere17:20
jeremiahEach GENIVI git repo has a separate branching strategy I'm afraid, so there is a lot of inconcsistency to deal with.17:20
CTtpollardjeremiah: dlt-daemon, node-startup-controller & ivi-extension all had branches17:24
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CTtpollardanyhow, I've emailed the list to point out the issue in-case other users are having the issue17:25
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arasbmI tried burning the minowboard image onto a flash drive and booting from it, the boot is stuck right at the beginning with the flashing cursor and does not load or give any messages :(. I know that was a long shot, but I need a way to quickly install a demo on my hardware here17:29
arasbmI am curious was are there builds specific to RPi and Minnowboard and not more generic hardware?17:29
arasbmwhy*17:29
toscalixarasbm: we have qemu17:29
toscalixwhat do you mean by more generic hardware?17:30
CTtpollardarasbm: are you following the uefi boot instructions for the minnowboard image?17:30
toscalixarasbm: instructions https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=1156931117:31
arasbmis CTtpollard no I did not follow uefi boot instruction. Is that what I need to do to run it on a "normal" intel computer?17:31
CTtpollardarasbm: I've not run it outside of uefi (which is quite normal :) )17:32
arasbmI followed only the "deploy from release artifact" in that document you linked. Are you suggesting I should build it from source?17:34
CTtpollardI'mnot17:36
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CTtpollardarasbm: there is a boot device section on that link, which provides the instruction on how to boot the image in uefi17:52
arasbmok I have not used the uefi shell before. I have to figure out how to get to that during the boot and will try again17:52
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Guest19376Is there a evaluation board where I can try Genivi builds?17:55
CTtpollardGuest19376: this shows the boards GDP targets https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/GDP+releases17:56
toscalixGuest19376: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/GDP+releases there you can find listed the boards17:56
toscalixjeje17:56
CTtpollardsnap ;)17:56
toscalixI have to leave. Talk to you tomorrow17:57
Guest19376Thanks Toscalix. I wanted to contribute to the Radio project and I am looking at board that has the Radio Tuner hardware. I looking at experimenting with DAB/DAB+ and DRM.17:59
CTtpollardarasbm: you might be able to load it via normal bios, but honestly I don't know18:00
toscalixGuest19376: drop[ a mail int he genivi projects ML18:11
toscalixLink : https://lists.genivi.org/mailman/listinfo/genivi-projects18:12
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arasbmSo far I have seen a lot of overlap between genivi and agl, can anyone explain what are some of the differences between these two projects?21:14
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arasbmCan I build and execute the dashboard app for either AGL or Genivi without creating the whole OS? Can I run it on my ubuntu development environment?22:08
waltminervirtual box and vmdx for AGL22:10
waltminervmdk22:10
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