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leon-anavimorning07:06
CTtpollardmorning07:08
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CTtpollardlooks like there was some github/go.cd PR progress in backscroll07:11
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CTtpollardchbae: what is your opinion on github merge commit?08:34
CTtpollard*commits08:34
CTtpollardor anyone else for that matter08:40
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chbaeCTtpollard: I'm not prefer to use merge commit about just simple commit.08:54
chbaeCTtpollard: I prefer cherry-pick :)08:55
CTtpollardchbae: I agree, I think it adds un-needed noise to the logs08:55
CTtpollardand has no context when not viewed on github08:55
chbaeCTtpollard: If the commit is included feature, the merge commit is fine to me.08:55
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chbae:)08:56
CTtpollardchbae: I merged jeremiah's licence commit https://github.com/GENIVI/genivi-dev-platform/commits/qemux86-64 to me I think the merge commit is not needed08:56
chbaeCTtpollard: I agree.08:57
CTtpollardI think it's sensible to follow your suggestion of merge commits for new features if everyone agrees08:59
chbaeCTtpollard: :) good09:01
chbaeCTtpollard: I'll go to home. see you.09:03
CTtpollardchbae: bye09:03
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CTtpollardRzR: I still feel that if iotivity is to be default in GDP, that the recipe from ocf layer should be part of meta-genivi-dev, and the two iot packages added to the default packagegroups10:27
CTtpollardas the image recipe is basically just an append to genivi-dev-platform10:33
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RzRCTtpollard, we can relocate it later it's not a big deal11:42
RzRCTtpollard, let's test the whole integration first11:43
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RzRCTtpollard, ok for suggestion , can we merge https://github.com/GENIVI/genivi-dev-platform/pull/3  ?12:04
RzRCTtpollard, <CTtpollard> as the image recipe is basically just an append to genivi-dev-platform12:05
RzRCTtpollard, it will be more than that12:05
leon-anavihi Tarnyko, sorry for bothering you. I noticed that my change 5635 for AGL is still pending although it received positive votes in gerrit. I am wondering if I should anything more to get it merged. Could you please give an advice?12:12
Tarnykoleon-anavi: hi, looking12:13
leon-anavithanks and sorry for bothering you about this change. I wasn't sure who can I ping in irc about it :) Please let me know if I should address my question to someone else.12:14
Tarnykoleon-anavi: bumped with +1 again (https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/5635/2). Most relevant people are already in CC ; unfortunately, I don't have maintainer/+2 rights myself ;)12:16
leon-anaviTarnyko, ok, thank you for the help. I appreciate it.12:17
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leon-anaviTarnyko, another question in a different area :) I am planning a trip to Vannes for AGL f2f. At what time are the first meetings scheduled for 25 May?13:16
Tarnykoleon-anavi: we will welcome you starting from 8.30AM ; people typically arrive around 9AM ( there will be coffee ;)  ). Need any info on the trip (transport, hotel) ?13:19
leon-anaviTarnyko, ok. In this case I guess it will better to arrive on 24 May.13:20
Tarnykoleon-anavi, yes definitely ; we have a few addresses if there is any need (PM). Passing through Paris ?13:21
CTtpollardheh, just noticed one of the go.cd agents is named 'agent007'13:23
leon-anaviTarnyko, yes, probably through Paris. My trip will be covered by ATS and Konsulko Group so I just need to send my preferred arrival/departure dates and they will take about the rest of the bookings.13:23
Tarnykoleon-anavi: ho that's nice. Just make you sure tell them you prefer train, because Paris-Nantes planes are expensive and less efficient (and you will need a train/car for the last segment anyway)13:26
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leon-anaviTarnyko, I saw that there are direct trains for Paris CDG airport to Vannes.13:27
Tarnykoleon-anavi, Yes, this is what you want. You will only change lines once (in gare Paris Montparnasse) and it will only take  3-4 hours. I will make a quick travel note when I am back in Vannes on Tuesday13:29
leon-anaviTarnyko, ok, I had a look at the train schedules at sncf.com13:30
Tarnykoleon-anavi, good ! Basically it goes like this : 1) Airport CDG / Denfert-Rochereau (RER B train, 45 mins)  - 2) Denfert-Rochereau / Montparnasse Train station (Subway, 5 mins) - 3) Montparnasse Train station / Vannes Train station (TGV train, 3.5 hours)13:33
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leon-anaviTarnyko, thanks! I am saving the route :)13:40
Tarnykoleon-anavi, yw. There is just this small ( 2) Subway) part in between, it is not tricky -Train/Subway station is the same, Denfert-Rochereau- and will let you experiment with Paris subway system ;)13:41
leon-anaviTarnyko, do I need to book train/tgv tickets in advance or I can buy from the station?13:41
* CTtpollard enjoyed using the metro in Paris after the genivi AMM 13:42
CTtpollardmy stop was menilmontant13:43
Tarnykoleon-anavi, only TGV (last part 3) ) should be reserved at least one week before. This can be from the website. 1) 2) (RER B and Subway) have distributors everywhere13:43
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leon-anaviCTtpollard, I enjoyed it too :) the metro in Paris is great :)13:43
leon-anaviTarnyko, ok, thanks!13:43
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Tarnykothis one needs reviews : https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/5645/113:58
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gunnarxCTtpollard, you sure? your subway stop sounds like an illness14:20
CTtpollardgunnarx: haha 100% sure14:20
gunnarxI confirm the train to Vannes is nice and relaxing14:21
TarnykoI myself wondered about the subway stop, then I saw a hotel near :)14:27
CTtpollardOn line 214:28
CTtpollardiirc14:29
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gunnarxTarnyko, what exactly is that proposal in gerrit?  Looks quite awful.  A giant audiomanager plugins patch with all kinds of stuff with no explanation?14:53
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CTtpollardthe agent building the minnow pipeline keeps having a repeated error when building python14:57
CTtpollardprobably a sstate cache issue14:57
CTtpollardit's not on the codethink agent though so I can't reset it14:57
waltminerleon-anavi and Tarnyko I plan to arrive 24 May. Taking train from CDG to Rennes and renting a car there. Seems to be the same distance from Vannes as Nantes15:00
leon-anaviwaltminer, ok. I will probably follow Tarnyko instructions to go to Paris Montparnasse train station and after that with TGV to Vannes.15:03
RzRwaltminer, you're arriving in Rennes ?15:03
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waltminerdid I miss something becaue I think the train to Vannes only runs once per day15:04
RzRonly once ?15:04
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waltminerI only see it leaving at 16:40 or something like that15:05
RzRwaltminer, there are many15:05
RzRhttps://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/fn?revia=yes&existOptimizePrice=1&country=FRA&dbkanal_007=L01_S01_D001_KIN0001_qf-bahn_LZ003&start=1&S=rennes&REQ0JourneyStopsSID=&REQ0JourneyStopsS0A=7&Z=vannes&REQ0JourneyStopsZID=&REQ0JourneyStopsZ0A=7&trip-type=single&date=Ve%2C+13.05.16&time=17%3A05&timesel=depart&returnTimesel=depart&optimize=0&travelProfile=-1&adult-number=1&children-number=0&infant-number=0&tariffTravellerType.1=E&tariffTravellerReductionCl15:05
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waltminermy flight to CDG lands at 6:45 am15:06
rjekYour luggage the day after15:07
waltminerlol15:08
RzRrjek, better than the day after you return home15:08
waltminerI never check baggage15:09
rjekwaltminer: You think that'll stop CDG losing it? :D15:09
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leon-anaviwaltminer, I think there a lot of trains to Vannes but they depart from train stations in Paris, not directly from the airport.15:16
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gunnarxCTtpollard, is it agent007 building it every time?15:22
CTtpollardgunnarx: trying to find somewhere for it to tell me explicitly what agent is building it15:23
waltminerit looked to me that the stopovers were so long that I could drive to Vannes from Rennes as fast as I could train it15:23
gunnarxJust click into the build status, i.e. click on the colored bar, then you need to click on the Job which is what is scheduled on the agents15:24
gunnarxExample: https://go.genivi.org/go/tab/build/detail/GDP-Yocto-Minnowboard/20/build/1/init_and_bitbake15:24
CTtpollardI'm on it, somehow the agent field in the top bar passed me by15:25
gunnarxwaltminer, Sure, Rennes to Vannes is not to far assuming you have a car.  IIRC some trains go via Rennes, other don't, but I might be mistaken.15:25
CTtpollardgunnarx: so yes 007, are you the owner of this MI5 agent?15:26
gunnarxthat's classified sorry15:27
CTtpollardah, you'd have to kill me and all of that.15:27
gunnarxI'd rather not :(15:27
CTtpollardmaybe you should be Q instead then15:27
gunnarxI am, in my own head15:28
CTtpollardheh, maybe volvo can replace aston martin/ jaguar in the next film15:28
waltminerAlso for me to fly home on Saturday it was going to be $3800. If I fly home on Monday it is $991. So I will rent the car in Rennes, spend the weekend in Normandy, then return the car at CDG15:29
waltminerthey have a tank available15:29
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leon-anaviI have to go now. Tomorrow is a working day in Bulgaria (by an exception), so I will be around all day, see you :)15:29
CTtpollardwaltminer: good point15:29
gunnarxMuch better plan waltminer.  It's beautiful.15:29
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Tarnykogunnarx: our very first proposal for AM plugins integration. Honestly, I really do not have an opinion15:48
Tarnykoon its design.15:48
Tarnykowaltminer: yes, Vannes, Rennes and Nantes make an equilateral triangle; you will make it15:48
Tarnykothe same time by starting from Rennes15:48
Tarnykowaltminer: thought the train was running twice, verifying...15:49
RzRTarnyko, the bermuda triangle by those days ;)15:49
TarnykoRzR: hehe15:50
Tarnykowaltminer: these are the trains I get by using the national website (https://uk.voyages-sncf.com/en/#/proposals/Rennes/Vannes/2016-05-24/12:00/passengers:adult;26;1/class:Economy/direct:0). There is approximately 1/hour. Can you see the page ?15:54
Tarnykowaltminer: but people frequently take a car when coming; which will allow you to tour a bit (and maybe make an excuse for us to find your hotel yourself with a GPS ;) )15:56
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fredcadeteoh, don't tell me about car GPS's15:57
fredcadetehow I abhor those IVI systems15:57
Tarnykofredcadete: bad experience; hmm ?15:57
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Tarnykogunnarx: AM plugins recipe seems very close to the meta-ivi one ; there is only this big backport patch which I don't really understand, so I'll just trust Andre on this16:00
gunnarxTarnyko, I brought it to the AM mailing list.  It's being explained there16:01
Tarnykogunnarx: ho, thanks ! looking16:02
gunnarxShort summary:  It looks awful now but should be fixed when you upgrade to v7.416:02
gunnarxAnd I'm taking the opportunity to figure out if GENIVI practices are partly to blame for the awfulness...16:02
gunnarxif so we must improve it right away16:03
fredcadetethere are some GENIVI components that could improve in that area16:03
fredcadetetake common-api: http://git.projects.genivi.org/?p=ipc/common-api-runtime.git;a=summary16:03
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Tarnykofredcadete: I tend to disable it due to CommonAPI-Dbus requiring d-bus patches, as you said it works well with latest16:04
fredcadeteTarnyko: I don't remember saying that  but it's good to know :)16:05
gunnarxSome day... there will be a sd-bus based backend I hope.  A better API to use IMHO and I imagine no patches would be required to increase performance.16:07
Tarnykofredcadete: was really sure you pointed me to the new compile flags :)16:07
fredcadetegunnarx: I believe that pavel's common-api-c is already sd-bus based16:07
gunnarxyes16:07
fredcadeteI haven't tried it yet but I should... I must say common-api-c++ is sometimes overwhelming16:08
Tarnykogunnarx: our coworker jobol is really catching up on sd-bus, he replaced our whole libdbus impl. with it recently (https://github.com/iotbzh/afb-daemon/blob/master/src/afb-api-dbus.c)16:08
gunnarxbut I meant for the C++ version.  I know Pavel has considered that the backends could be compatible and serve both c++ and C version.16:08
gunnarxSure.  For clarity what I meant above is still CommonAPI but the backend using sd-bus instead of libdbus16:09
TarnykoSure, got it16:09
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Tarnykoqml-radio-plugin recipe does not build anymore in AGL ; issue is documented on the ML and here : https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-101 . Will probably require an upstream Yocto patch.16:50
Tarnykohave a good weekend folks, bye16:51
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