IRC logs for #automotive for Thursday, 2016-04-14

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leon-anavi-cloudrokrau: I have successfully built Poky (release 2.0 Jethro) with Weston 1.8 for Raspberry Pi 2 using Userland and Linux kernel 4.1.10. It is a 3am here so I am going to bed but tomorrow I will share the steps.00:07
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rokrauleon-anavi-cloud: wow!00:12
rokrauleon-anavi-cloud: nice - get some sleep -00:13
rokrauleon-anavi-cloud: hope you don't have to get  up and work tomorrow00:13
leon-anavi-cloudrokrau: I am lucky because my hobby and job are pretty much the same ;) for the record this is my build configuration:00:14
leon-anavi-cloudhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/EfSCxgks/00:14
leon-anavi-cloudI have added the following lines to conf/local.conf:00:15
leon-anavi-cloudhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Ayq9d7uq/00:15
leon-anavi-cloudhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/G6UMEWCl/00:15
leon-anavi-cloudTomorrow I need to verify with a build from scratch to be sure that everything is fine.00:16
leon-anavi-cloudI will keep you updated.00:16
rokrauleon-anavi-cloud: okay - maybe Ivan can check this out too - I will send him an email to see if he can track this build00:16
leon-anavi-cloudok00:18
rokrauleon-anavi-cloud: so is the build booting and touch working ?00:18
leon-anavi-cloudrokrau: pls introduce me to Ivan, I hope that we can move faster if we work together on this00:18
leon-anavi-cloudrokrau: no, this is a build that boots Weston and I have tested it with my HDMI Samsung monitor (without touchscreen).00:19
leon-anavi-cloudrokrau: I need to tweak the kernel defconfig and other a few other configuration to make the official 7" touch display for rpi working.00:20
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rokrau_leon-anavi-cloud: Yes. I will let Ivan know to look for you.04:30
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CTtpollardmorning all07:11
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leon-anavimorning08:01
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CTtpollardhey leon-anavi08:29
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dl9pfplease review https://git.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/5527/ and10:56
dl9pfhttps://git.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/5529/10:56
CTtpollardleon-anavi: thanks for the patches & wiki page11:01
leon-anaviCTtpollard, you are welcome :)11:01
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CTtpollardleon-anavi: can you do me a favour?12:50
leon-anaviCTtpollard, sure12:50
leon-anaviCTtpollard, just say12:50
CTtpollardleon-anavi: can you try git clone git://git.projects.genivi.org/AudioManagerDemo.git at your end12:50
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leon-anaviCTtpollard, hm... we have a problem: fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer12:52
leon-anaviCTtpollard, is it the same on your side?12:52
CTtpollardleon-anavi: great, just wanted to check it wasn't a problem with our network here12:52
CTtpollardyep12:52
leon-anaviok12:53
CTtpollardjust had a build stop so I noticed it12:53
leon-anaviI am trying to clone it again but so far no luck12:53
CTtpollardyep, not just that repo, seems all of them12:53
CTtpollardI'll email the list12:53
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CTtpollardworking over http though12:54
CTtpollardlist emailed12:59
CTtpollarduntil then building gdp will fail12:59
leon-anaviCTtpollard, got your email. in the mean time could you please have a look and share you opinion regarding the discussion started by Gunnar?13:07
leon-anaviI proposed to create genivi-demo-platform-rvi image that includes RVI core server and SOTA client.13:08
leon-anaviI am not sure if it is a good idea but it might be a way to keep everyone happy :)13:08
CTtpollardleon-anavi: i've read it, on my to-do list13:09
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leon-anavicool, 10x13:12
CTtpollardI suspect the outcome will be 'lets discuss at the AMM' though13:14
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toscalixleon-anavi: at this point, my main concern is that we need users. What we are doing makes little sense with the current user base, which seems to be low.13:19
toscalixSo when thinking about shipping RVI or other coming modules my question is... how can we do it in the best possible way to increase our user base.13:19
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toscalixso we have to make it easy to consume13:20
toscalixhaving several different targets already disperse our user base13:20
toscalixso, unless it makes total sense from the technical point of view, I will always support measures that tend to concentrate our user base13:21
toscalixso I do not have a position about your proposal13:21
toscalixI just have a general position/view on our main need at this point13:22
leon-anavihi toscalix13:23
leon-anaviok13:23
toscalixwe have some software (we can argue about amount, quality...) we have some processes to deliver it (again, we can argue about if it is optimal), we have some content to support the software, we are releasing it with some cadence....13:23
toscalixwe need some people out there to use it so we can increase a little the number of contributors and then close the circle ...so we can improve it13:24
toscalixso if RVI can bring users.....no matter how expensive it is from the technical perspective (build time, complexity, amount of software...) I would like to consider to offer it by default13:26
toscalixbut I want to hear the engineers on this one13:26
CTtpollardlooks like git is back13:35
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rokrau_Morning13:40
CTtpollardhi rokrau_13:41
leon-anavitoscalix, this sounds as a question for marketing guys :)13:41
rokrau_leon-anavi: what does this RVI thing actually do? I know what RVI is but what does yours do? Is it the same stuff magnus and rudi are working on?13:45
leon-anavirokrau_, yes, it is the same. You can have a look at the git logs and the documentation.13:46
leon-anaviLet me share some links, just a sec.13:46
leon-anavirokrau_, github.com/advancedtelematic/rvi_sota_client.git13:47
leon-anavihttps://github.com/advancedtelematic/rvi_sota_client#sota-client13:47
leon-anavirokrau_, here is how you can use it in GDP: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/RVI+SOTA+Client13:47
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rokrau_leon-anavi: so will this pull updates from some place then?13:48
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rokrau_i see that is starts some sort of a client, but there are no descriptions as to what it actually does :-)13:49
rokrau_leon-anavi: it is a client right? not a server?13:49
leon-anaviyes, it is SOTA client.13:50
leon-anavihave a look at the wiki article to learn how to use docker to verify it13:50
rokrau_docker hey?13:54
rokrau_hmm13:54
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rokrau_has a free 30 day trial13:55
rokrau_still don't get what this does13:55
leon-anavirokrau_, just follow the exact steps from the wiki to get it working :)13:56
toscalix_leon-anavi: can you add to the initial paragraph of the rvi sota wiki page a like or description of the acronims you are using?13:57
toscalix_it would provide more context, I think13:58
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toscalixI suspect potential readers might not be familiar with rust. A link to a page that introduce readers to rust might be also a nice goodie13:59
toscalixleon-anavi: a third improvement I suggest is to add the labels "sota" and "rvi" to the labels catalogue: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/GENIVI+Demo+Platform+management14:01
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leon-anavitoscalix, I added description of the acronyms14:02
leon-anavitoscalix, I have just updated the labels.14:03
toscalixleon-anavi: thank you. I like the related articles detail :-)14:13
leon-anavitoscalix, you are welcome :)14:13
paulsherwoodCTtpollard: why would you put tl; dr *at the end* ? :)14:25
CTtpollardpaulsherwood: my use case of it is obviously different to others :)14:27
CTtpollardI'm personally used to it being at the bottom of text14:28
paulsherwoodi thought the point was to sum up so folks can decide whether to read or not14:29
paulsherwoodbut i've been wrong before14:29
CTtpollardgoogle seems to give me conflicting viewpoints14:30
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CTtpollardbut it's the internet so unsurprising14:31
CTtpollardtoo me it's a summary, so belongs at the end14:34
CTtpollard*to14:35
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CTtpollardinteresting, I wonder if meta-renesas could implement something like this for the gfx blobs https://github.com/96boards/oe-rpb-manifest/blob/jethro/setup-environment-internal#L20415:25
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IvanSleon-anavi-cloud: Hello! I am Ivan, work with rokrau. I read your blog about Weston for RPi, am going to try it. But i think i need to include rpi-ft5406 overlay to have it working on official touchscreen.16:52
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leon-anavi-cloudHi IvanS nice to meet you.16:54
leon-anavi-cloudYes, rpi-ft5406 is mandatory to get the official touch screen working.16:54
IvanSleon-anavi-cloud: nice to meet you too.16:59
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jlrmagnusjeremiah, Thank you for adding me to GENIVI org. I will immediately replace all code with dank meme GIFs.18:29
paulsherwoodlol18:30
dl9pf_yannick__: just recheck your commits. I changed the boot test result to be not included in the gerrit commit for now.18:54
dl9pf_yannick__: it might be stephans connman changeset that went in, now as the testboard boots up we mess with the nfsroot ip and it might fail. investigating.19:04
jlrmagnushttps://github.com/orgs/GENIVI/teams/remove-vehicle-interaction created.19:08
JEEB> remove19:09
JEEBdoing a long day? :)19:09
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paulsherwoodremove vehicle interaction? did you get sick of the topic, jlrmagnus ?20:03
jlrmagnusShit.20:25
jlrmagnusFreudian slip.20:25
jlrmagnusFixed.20:25
jlrmagnusI need a happy hobby project where I can cozy up with algorithms and not worry about the cold outside world.20:26
JEEBaye20:28
JEEBthat's a good thing to have20:28
waltminerI can sell you a motorcycle to fix up20:30
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