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| rokrau | chbae: Hey Changhyeok - thanks - I am building now | 04:12 |
| chbae | rokau: Sorry. I missed local.conf change. | 04:13 |
| rokrau | Will this be all that's needed to include the dtb with the image | 04:13 |
| rokrau | i see | 04:13 |
| chbae | you can add it. :) | 04:13 |
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| rokrau | i need to KERNEL_IMAGE_append ? | 04:13 |
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| rokrau | okay - looks like running source init.sh took me back to the detached sha of the meta-genivi-demo repo | 04:26 |
| rokrau | which does not have your change | 04:26 |
| rokrau | corrected and building now then | 04:27 |
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| klausbirken | === GENIVI Tools Team meeting starts === | 09:00 |
| klausbirken | Hello all! | 09:00 |
| klausbirken | Agenda: | 09:01 |
| klausbirken | * Time slot for this meeting during summer | 09:01 |
| klausbirken | * AMM presentation: preparation | 09:01 |
| klausbirken | * Follow up with tasks | 09:01 |
| klausbirken | Who is participating? | 09:01 |
| philrob | Hi, there ! | 09:01 |
| klausbirken | It's quite quiet… | 09:02 |
| philrob | let us chat about the AMM preparation then | 09:04 |
| klausbirken | Is anybody there? Should we start? | 09:04 |
| klausbirken | philrob: yes, ok | 09:05 |
| philrob | look at https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/WIK4/14th+GENIVI+AMM | 09:05 |
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| philrob | and in particular at Thu 28 April, sessions located in Studio A&B | 09:05 |
| klausbirken | ok. the main session for TT is on Thursday, 16:30-18:30 | 09:05 |
| klausbirken | there is an overlap of the TT session and the session "Towards Complete Embedded System Modeling and Generation" in Studio A&B | 09:06 |
| philrob | yes, and other sessions before TT will bring inputs for the topics discussed by the TT hopefully, including Klaus Uhl sessio | 09:06 |
| klausbirken | I don't have any info on the Towards… session, but it seems that there could be some overlap. | 09:07 |
| philrob | no overlap in practice, the whole track schedule can be re-arranged slightly by participants | 09:07 |
| KlausUhl | Hi, I have also seen the overlap an I am not really happy with it. | 09:07 |
| philrob | there is not overlap, these sessions are sequential (I will check the schedule again) | 09:08 |
| klausbirken | We could shift the start of TT until Klaus Uhl is done, how about that? | 09:08 |
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| gmacario | Hi klaus I am in as well! Sorry for being late | 09:09 |
| KlausUhl | philrob: I have not checked the schedule recently. Maybe you are right. | 09:09 |
| philrob | I would like to move K.Uhl session earlier in the afternoon (at 2pm) followed by the working session on Common API C++ following by the TT working session | 09:09 |
| philrob | does it make sense for you, guys ? | 09:09 |
| klausbirken | 14:00 is the Franca session... | 09:10 |
| klausbirken | gmacario: never mind, welcome | 09:10 |
| gmacario | Which session are we talking to move? Which day? | 09:11 |
| klausbirken | I am looking on the 28th April | 09:11 |
| klausbirken | the Studio A&B track | 09:11 |
| philrob | ok then it is 2pm for Franca, 3pm for Towards Complete..., 3pm for Common API working session followed by TT | 09:11 |
| gmacario | Too bad it overlap the SW Management & SOTA which I am also interested in | 09:12 |
| gmacario | But this is just my selfish comment | 09:12 |
| philrob | I cannot satisfy all constraints, sorry | 09:12 |
| gmacario | Understood | 09:12 |
| klausbirken | philrob: works for me | 09:12 |
| philrob | ok, let us switch to another topic for discussion at the TT session | 09:13 |
| klausbirken | so working sessions will happen after the coffee break, CommonAPI WS first and then TT | 09:13 |
| KlausUhl | I am completely flexible as long as everything stays within the same track. | 09:13 |
| klausbirken | ? | 09:13 |
| philrob | ok | 09:14 |
| KlausUhl | I have just seen that my session is still scheduled for a complete hour. 30 minutes should be sufficient. | 09:14 |
| klausbirken | the only thing is that the TT working session will start quite late (17:30…), but we have to stuff everything into one afternoon. | 09:14 |
| chbae | Hi. Will you discuss about SCM tool in TT? | 09:14 |
| klausbirken | chbae: you mean, the discussion around github? | 09:15 |
| chbae | yes. github or gerrit ... | 09:15 |
| philrob | yes, but we can bundle likely common api C++ working session and TT in order to get started earlier (to be checked with Pavel) | 09:15 |
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| klausbirken | philrob: Ok, fine. | 09:15 |
| klausbirken | chbae: I was not involved in that before, maybe gmacario can jump in? | 09:16 |
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| gmacario | If I remember correctly the TT session at AMM was a status update + a working session | 09:16 |
| gmacario | where we wanted to get requirements from participants who are not usually active in the team | 09:16 |
| klausbirken | I think the status update has been moved into the general status session on Tuesday? | 09:17 |
| gmacario | Therefore gerrit+github is definitely a topic for the working session | 09:17 |
| gmacario | I am getting lost with the agenda at https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/WIK4/14th+GENIVI+AMM | 09:18 |
| gmacario | No Tuesday agenda there? | 09:18 |
| philrob | in addition, we would like to talk about testing based on the recent work published by Tolkien on the testing of common api c++ runtime | 09:18 |
| gunnarx | chbae, you know GENIVI will use github right? | 09:18 |
| chbae | I just guess but I'm not sure. | 09:18 |
| gmacario | FYI: https://github.com/GENIVI - small but progressing | 09:19 |
| gunnarx | So if someone wants gerrit, you need to work on that. As gmacario and others pointed out, maybe a hosted service could be applicable | 09:19 |
| klausbirken | let's stick with the overall schedule first, please | 09:19 |
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| klausbirken | philrob: Should the TT status update happen on Tuesday or Thursday? | 09:19 |
| jeremiah | OHAI! | 09:19 |
| gunnarx | klausbirken, sorry if it was me - just catching up and commenting. What topic are we on? | 09:19 |
| chbae | You mean that GENIVI's contribution will follow by github method (pull request)? or gerrit + github? | 09:20 |
| klausbirken | Current topic: TT session(s) on AMM | 09:20 |
| gunnarx | chbae - finishing TT session first as klausbirken requested :) | 09:20 |
| chbae | ok. :) | 09:20 |
| * jeremiah reads the logs to get up to speed | 09:20 | |
| klausbirken | From last TT meeting's minutes: "statuys on tuesday and working session on thursday and we cancel the git policy session?" | 09:21 |
| klausbirken | WIth 4x +1 | 09:21 |
| philrob | the status will be on Tuesday and you can choose to do a short status update on Thu, but I would recommend to jump into the discussion topics asap | 09:21 |
| klausbirken | philrob: Ok, fine. | 09:21 |
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| gmacario | OK so the discussion should be about the TT goals and how to make them happen | 09:22 |
| klausbirken | philrob: Why is Tuesday not listed on the Jira page with the schedule? | 09:22 |
| gmacario | based on whoever contributes | 09:22 |
| philrob | because Tuesady is member-only | 09:22 |
| klausbirken | I see, thanks. | 09:22 |
| klausbirken | Next topic: Content of the TT working session. | 09:23 |
| jeremiah | I would prefer to not cancel the git discussion | 09:23 |
| gunnarx | SCM tool? :) | 09:23 |
| jeremiah | I can prepare material if that is needed. | 09:23 |
| gunnarx | how do you mean cancel? Is there a separate session on that, or is it part of TT session? | 09:24 |
| philrob | the git discussion has to be part of the tt session IMHO | 09:24 |
| klausbirken | Which TT item is used to track the SCM tool discussion? | 09:24 |
| jeremiah | There is a fair amount to disucss, I think: git branching strategies, GitHub migration, etc. | 09:24 |
| * steve_l waves at TT | 09:24 | |
| jeremiah | klausbirken: Good question, I don't know really. | 09:24 |
| gunnarx | klausbirken, there was an item to prepare the topic. it might be closed now, let me check | 09:24 |
| jeremiah | klausbirken: Are you looking in the TT JIRA? | 09:24 |
| klausbirken | jeremiah: yes | 09:24 |
| jeremiah | okay coo, I'll poke there too to try and find it. | 09:25 |
| steve_l | Testing could be a topic. We have some movement on that from BIT which could be input into TT | 09:25 |
| jeremiah | steve_l:++ | 09:25 |
| klausbirken | We could attach a label "AMM2016" to all jira items we want to bring up at the AMM. | 09:25 |
| jeremiah | I would really like to discuss testing as well | 09:25 |
| klausbirken | If there is something like labels there | 09:26 |
| gmacario | And https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/TOOL-24 is still in analysis | 09:26 |
| jeremiah | klausbirken: Good idea, I think in fact there are labels | 09:26 |
| steve_l | Tolkien (Yocto baseline maintainer) has just posted a new meta-ivi layer for testing. | 09:26 |
| gmacario | TOOL-24 - Automated Test in CI | 09:26 |
| philrob | steve l: I mention the testing topic earlier, | 09:26 |
| steve_l | Also I have restarted the LAVA trail with Collabora | 09:26 |
| gunnarx | klausbirken, Preparatory work was done in: https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/TOOL-62, now closed due to decision taken | 09:26 |
| steve_l | LAVA *trial* :) | 09:27 |
| jeremiah | So can we use TOOL-24 as a container for "testing"? | 09:27 |
| gunnarx | The actual execution of migration to github, I think jeremiah owns it and could create a ticket to track execution? | 09:27 |
| jeremiah | Or is it too specific? It looks like an integration ticket for Automated testing and CI | 09:27 |
| klausbirken | We have to separate discussions here: github/gerrit and testing | 09:27 |
| jeremiah | gunnarx: Yes, I'll do that now | 09:27 |
| steve_l | klausbirken: ok finish git :) | 09:28 |
| jeremiah | okay, let's stick to the "SCM and tooling" topic and then to to testing? | 09:28 |
| gunnarx | jeremiah: github migration should be done before AMM as far as I know. Sure there might be some issues left to discuss but let's not delay anything on purpose until AMM discussion, agreed? | 09:28 |
| jeremiah | Agreed. | 09:28 |
| klausbirken | Which ticket is github migration? | 09:29 |
| gunnarx | steve_l: patience grasshopper... | 09:29 |
| gunnarx | klausbirken, I already answered | 09:29 |
| gunnarx | Preparation: TOOL-62 | 09:29 |
| klausbirken | gunnarx: I see, there is none yet for the actual execution. | 09:30 |
| gunnarx | Decision: No ticket, it is in the BoD minutes | 09:30 |
| gunnarx | Execution: No ticket. Jeremiah needs to create it | 09:30 |
| klausbirken | Suggestion: Mark this ticket and all others relevant for the AMM with the tag Paris2016. | 09:31 |
| jeremiah | Will do, creating ticket now | 09:31 |
| klausbirken | (AMM2016 is not unique) | 09:31 |
| jeremiah | What does that mean? I shouldn't use AMM2016 as a tag? | 09:32 |
| gunnarx | klausbirken, can we discuss git tools now or are we still on AMM planning? :) | 09:33 |
| klausbirken | We should discuss it now - if there are other topics for the AMM, everybody can attach the tag and we check next week. | 09:33 |
| gunnarx | rename it? | 09:33 |
| jeremiah | https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/TOOL-69 | 09:33 |
| gunnarx | OK, assuming "it" means git tools... | 09:34 |
| KlausUhl | I need to leave. Bye! | 09:34 |
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| klausbirken | No, we should use the tag "Paris2016" instead, because AMM2016 will be duplicated in autumn. | 09:34 |
| klausbirken | gunnarx: yes: "it" means git tools | 09:34 |
| gunnarx | chbae, I don't think we should talk long now but. I can answer the question. | 09:34 |
| gunnarx | First, all repos shall move to Github. Therefore fork/pull-request process will be available to all projects. | 09:35 |
| gunnarx | Then, if some project (or tool team consensus) want Gerrit, you must work for it. | 09:35 |
| gunnarx | One thing was clear from Board decision and that was the idea of outsourcing this stuff, so GENIVI hosting its own Gerrit would need a strong case. I'm not saying it's not possible. | 09:36 |
| gunnarx | gmacario and others have pointed out that there are outsource solutions for most things, including gerrithub for example. | 09:36 |
| gunnarx | That's all I have, hope it makes sense. | 09:36 |
| klausbirken | Any remarks on the github plans? | 09:37 |
| klausbirken | So let's move on to the next topic... | 09:38 |
| klausbirken | jeremiah mentioned TOOL-24 and testing, should that be discussed at the AMM, too? | 09:39 |
| steve_l | yes would be good | 09:39 |
| jeremiah | I think that it would be really useful. | 09:39 |
| klausbirken | Ok, I will tag it. | 09:39 |
| philrob | +1 | 09:39 |
| jeremiah | I don't know if it is already going to be discussed in the BIT readout as well, but can we discuss the meta-ivi tests in the TT meeting? | 09:39 |
| philrob | this is the plan | 09:40 |
| jeremiah | I think it may be useful to understand how to connect them to the CI and Go.CD | 09:40 |
| gunnarx | Planned for BIT readout | 09:40 |
| steve_l | tolkien has pushed a meta-ivi test layer that pulls in pkgs needed for testing and documented how to use in wiki. | 09:40 |
| jeremiah | So can we add Tolkien to the TT meeting on Thursday? | 09:40 |
| philrob | and to follow up with a discussion in the TT IMHO | 09:40 |
| gunnarx | if I understood previous discussion today, right Steve? Tolkien will introduce it? | 09:40 |
| steve_l | Needs a general call for EGs and members to get involved and help build out the test cases. | 09:40 |
| gunnarx | Yes we can talk integration in the TT session Jeremiah | 09:41 |
| steve_l | No harm in mentioning it in multiple sessions to get word out | 09:41 |
| jeremiah | Yeah, exactly. Great. | 09:41 |
| jeremiah | steve_l: Will you attend the TT sessions? I assume yes. | 09:41 |
| philrob | Tolkien cannot attend physically, Steve L could perhaps introduce the topic in the TT | 09:41 |
| steve_l | should do. Not checked schedule yet.. | 09:41 |
| klausbirken | Is there a ticket for this, too (meta-ivi test layer)? | 09:42 |
| steve_l | No ticket | 09:42 |
| jeremiah | steve_l: You may have to be the owner of the meta-ivi testing info if Tolkien is not around. :-) | 09:42 |
| jeremiah | Is that possible/ | 09:42 |
| jeremiah | ? | 09:42 |
| steve_l | I can try.. but its not my s/w | 09:42 |
| jeremiah | I'm happy to help prepare stuff | 09:42 |
| jeremiah | We can re-use whatever Tolkien produces for the BIT | 09:42 |
| jeremiah | Discuss your LAVA work | 09:43 |
| jeremiah | Then put out for discussion how to integrate | 09:43 |
| jeremiah | Into CI and automated testing | 09:43 |
| jeremiah | That would likely be a half an hour right there | 09:43 |
| steve_l | yes its just one part of the puzzle | 09:43 |
| jeremiah | So should you and I own the testing discussion in Paris for a half an hour in the TT sessions? | 09:44 |
| gmacario | By the way speaking about JIRA labels it looks like there was already a "14th_amm" :-( | 09:44 |
| klausbirken | According to current plans, we have 2h in common for the TT and the CommonAPI working sessions. | 09:44 |
| steve_l | can try to facilitate :) | 09:45 |
| klausbirken | We have to sync with Pavel to find out how much time is actually needed for CommonAPI. Maybe we can also extend the session (it is the last on this day) to cover all topics. | 09:45 |
| gunnarx | Just step in and unify the labels, how hard can it be | 09:45 |
| philrob | 2:30 if Klaus delivers his talk in 1/2h | 09:45 |
| philrob | Klaus Uhl, I meant | 09:45 |
| klausbirken | philrob: I will sync with Klaus Uhl and Pavel and give you an update, ok? | 09:46 |
| philrob | fine | 09:46 |
| gmacario | +gunnarx: Right just wanted to point this out to the others | 09:47 |
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| gunnarx | yep | 09:47 |
| gmacario | I also could not remember toscalix already defined this label exactly for such purpose | 09:47 |
| klausbirken1 | Sorry, lost the connection. | 09:47 |
| klausbirken1 | gmacario: We can sort this out offline. It is only important that one such label exists. | 09:48 |
| gmacario | This is "14th_amm", already done | 09:48 |
| klausbirken1 | Ok, fine. | 09:48 |
| klausbirken1 | Any other topics for today? | 09:48 |
| gunnarx | Yes, I just checked 14th_amm is what all topics use now | 09:49 |
| gmacario | gunnarx: Could you please review and comment TOOL-61 and TOOL-66? | 09:49 |
| steve_l | klausbirken1: not from me | 09:49 |
| gmacario | Whenever you like of course | 09:50 |
| klausbirken1 | So I start the "final countdown"… | 09:50 |
| gunnarx | gmacario, ok will do. | 09:50 |
| klausbirken1 | 5 | 09:50 |
| klausbirken1 | 4 | 09:50 |
| gunnarx | klausbirken1, quick update on Go | 09:51 |
| klausbirken1 | gunnarx: OK | 09:51 |
| * steve_l thanks klaus now I have that music in my head | 09:51 | |
| gunnarx | So just want to mention to gmacario that there is some improvement on Docker builds in Go community | 09:51 |
| gmacario | Good to know | 09:51 |
| gmacario | Do you plan on upgrading go.genivi.org then? | 09:52 |
| gunnarx | But we still need to sit down and sort out how to do it securely. Currently agents are containerized already, so launching another container to do the build means | 09:52 |
| gunnarx | means launching docker-in-docker, or doing it as a sibling | 09:52 |
| gunnarx | the latter I feel is insecure. However others reported having done it with docker-in-docker | 09:52 |
| gunnarx | If the build machine is a dedicated one (or a full virtual machine) then allowing the user to launch containers should be fine | 09:53 |
| gmacario | Yes this is what https://github.com/gmacario/easy-genivigo does | 09:53 |
| gunnarx | Summary is I'm somewhat optimistic but we have a bit mismatch with the current go.genivi.org model which is to run long-lived agents vs. the new more flexible on-demand thinking | 09:53 |
| gmacario | FYI Jenkins is moving to the same model | 09:54 |
| gunnarx | I know they are, but all I have seen so far seems to assume that you have a dedicated build machine. It just trusts the containers | 09:54 |
| gunnarx | I don't think that's feasible. That's the mismatch, if you want to allow go-agents on a host that also does other things... | 09:55 |
| gunnarx | OK I think that's it. I need more thinking time and/or discussion time and probably not here nad now. | 09:55 |
| klausbirken1 | gunnarx: Ok. | 09:55 |
| klausbirken1 | Now the countdown - see you next week. | 09:55 |
| klausbirken1 | 5 | 09:56 |
| klausbirken1 | 4 | 09:56 |
| klausbirken1 | 3 | 09:56 |
| klausbirken1 | 2 | 09:56 |
| jeremiah | wait!! | 09:56 |
| jeremiah | heh, just kidding | 09:56 |
| klausbirken1 | Well.... | 09:56 |
| klausbirken1 | 5 | 09:56 |
| klausbirken1 | 4 | 09:56 |
| klausbirken1 | 3 | 09:56 |
| klausbirken1 | 2 | 09:56 |
| klausbirken1 | 1 | 09:56 |
| gunnarx | start over at 5 | 09:56 |
| jeremiah | lol | 09:56 |
| gmacario | Bye! | 09:56 |
| gunnarx | :) | 09:56 |
| klausbirken1 | == GENIVI Tools Team Meeting Ends == | 09:57 |
| philrob | bye ! | 09:57 |
| jeremiah | gmacario: wait! | 09:57 |
| gmacario | too late :P | 09:57 |
| jeremiah | gmacario: How do you view the epics in JIRA? | 09:57 |
| klausbirken1 | Thanks to all, see u | 09:57 |
| gmacario | I am here anyway | 09:57 |
| jeremiah | I can't find a way to do that. | 09:57 |
| gmacario | I am still reading https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/mastering-jira | 09:57 |
| gmacario | Let me check - not sure | 09:58 |
| jeremiah | Oh, I'll have to check that out. | 09:58 |
| gunnarx | whoa, if only there was time. | 09:58 |
| jeremiah | BTW everyone: https://github.com/ilbers/isar | 09:58 |
| gunnarx | I'm reading TLPI cover to cover instead - much more useful :) | 09:58 |
| gmacario | Aren't epic just like issues? | 09:58 |
| jeremiah | ^^ Siemens has built a tool to bitbake Debian | 09:58 |
| gmacario | Wow TLPI: Do you get the copy signed by Michael Kerrisk? | 09:59 |
| gunnarx | No. I never have it with me when I meet him! :( | 10:00 |
| gunnarx | :) | 10:00 |
| gunnarx | Too heavy to take on travels :) | 10:00 |
| gmacario | Yes not exactly lightweight I remember when @mtk brought with him at some SAT meetings | 10:00 |
| steve_l | epub version is way forward | 10:01 |
| gunnarx | OK steve_l. If Michael gpg-signs the PDF, is it worth as much? | 10:01 |
| gunnarx | lol | 10:01 |
| gmacario | +1 lol | 10:01 |
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| steve_l | woth way more as the sig is authenticated | 10:02 |
| steve_l | worth | 10:02 |
| jeremiah | meh, is he in the web of trust though? | 10:02 |
| jeremiah | Great book though I must say | 10:03 |
| gunnarx | packt publishing: ebook: 42.48 EUR. ebook and print copy 41.99 EUR. wait, what? O_o | 10:03 |
| steve_l | quick buy, buy | 10:04 |
| gunnarx | have to go... | 10:04 |
| jeremiah | Yeah, 42 bucks for a man page? | 10:05 |
| jeremiah | What's up with that? | 10:05 |
| steve_l | :) fun though this is apparently I need to drive to the office. Catch you later. | 10:05 |
| rjek | In the EU, ebooks attract VAT, where books do not. | 10:06 |
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| rjek | So given the madness of ebook pricing, I can easily believe a paper copy with free bundled ebook ends up being cheaper :) | 10:06 |
| jeremiah | rjek: which I think is a way to ensure dead paper remains the technology for "publishing" | 10:10 |
| jeremiah | That said, I have a peculiar fetish for dead paper books I must admit | 10:10 |
| rjek | Too much information | 10:10 |
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| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I've posted a reply to your sota patchset asking if anyone has an objection with it being merged | 10:19 |
| CTtpollard | CTtpollard: Is there backing for it to be included in the GDP for the AMM? | 10:22 |
| CTtpollard | erm leon-anavi ^ | 10:22 |
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| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: meta-genivi-demo patches merged to master | 12:52 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, thank you. | 12:52 |
| CTtpollard | just hanging fire on the genivi-demo-platform ones | 12:53 |
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| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: do you know if there's backing within genivi to have the client built into the gdp by default? | 13:01 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I don't know. I will ask my colleagues. | 13:01 |
| waltminer | AGL Connectivity Expert Group Call Starting | 13:01 |
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| fredcadete_ | hello channel | 13:31 |
| fredcadete_ | I find myself in the interesting situation of doing a multilib (32-bit and 64-bit) build of poky and I'm having a few issues with common-api | 13:32 |
| fredcadete_ | has anyone else done this before or am I a pioneer in the field? | 13:33 |
| jeremiah | Pioneer, crazy person, what's the difference? | 13:37 |
| fredcadete_ | the pioneer has to succeed or starve | 13:38 |
| jeremiah | :-) | 13:38 |
| fredcadete_ | or lose his paycheck in this case | 13:38 |
| jeremiah | Pffff, they can't fire you -- who will bake their bits? | 13:38 |
| fredcadete_ | I heard they now have *computer programs* that do that for you | 13:39 |
| fredcadete_ | where is this world going | 13:39 |
| jeremiah | More artificial than intelligence though | 13:39 |
| fredcadete_ | ok, i'll dive back in and get a few more grey hairs | 13:41 |
| fredcadete_ | if I get something proper I might share it, but the way this is going I will end up with some obscene patch fixing up paths on the output files with a binary editor | 13:42 |
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| rokrau | Morning - will there be a GDP call today? | 13:56 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I should be able to build meta-genivi-demo with sota-client recipes included (but not built) without meta-rust being present right? | 13:57 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, yes, it should be possible | 13:57 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I'm getting rvi-sota-client_git.bb:5: Could not inherit file classes/cargo.bbclass atm | 13:57 |
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| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, ok... cargo.bbclass comes from meta-rust | 13:59 |
| CTtpollard | :/ | 13:59 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, in geneneral there is no use of rvi sota client recipes without meta-rust because they depend on cargo, rust and some crates. | 13:59 |
| rokrau | CTtpollard: I saw your reply to my email about the size of the image on the Faytech monitor - Have you tried this monitor with the Raspberry Pi? | 14:00 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: yeh, I didn't think it would want to parse the recipe as it wasn't being asked to build it | 14:00 |
| rokrau | Or was that with Porter? | 14:00 |
| CTtpollard | rokrau: yes, works fine resolution wise on ours faytechs, and with the porter | 14:00 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, yes, me too. I though that bitbake won't parse the recipe if they are not included in the image. | 14:01 |
| rokrau | CTtpollard: Are these RPi-2-B? | 14:03 |
| rokrau | CTtpollard: connected via HDMI? | 14:03 |
| jeremiah | rokrau: There is a GDP call scheduled | 14:04 |
| rokrau | CTtpollard: another question, is your work adding the egtouchd patches available in the git repos somewhere yet? | 14:04 |
| rokrau | jeremiah: Thanks - just saw that it is in an hour - UTC - got me confused again... | 14:05 |
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| rZr | CTtpollard, fyi here is the supplier of mine http://www.cartft.com/catalog/gl/200 | 14:07 |
| rZr | toscalix, but it does not work out of the box yet | 14:07 |
| rZr | but I think it will be easy to fix | 14:07 |
| CTtpollard | rokrau: raspi2b, hdmi cable | 14:08 |
| leon-anavi | so the GDP call today will start in 50 min. Are my calculations correct? :) | 14:08 |
| leon-anavi | Last time I missed almost the whole call due to time zones :) | 14:08 |
| rZr | leon-anavi, hi http://time.is/ | 14:09 |
| CTtpollard | rokrau: I updated the ticket re touch | 14:09 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I'm probably going to have to revert the commits from master | 14:09 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, hm... let me have a look | 14:10 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: you can try by taking the raspi build, updating the meta-genivi-demo to master and see if it bitbake will parse it | 14:11 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I did it for qemux86-64 and got "Could not inherit file classes/cargo.bbclass" when meta-rust is not specified in bblayers.conf | 14:14 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: yup :/ | 14:14 |
| rokrau | CTtpollard: I guess I will need to try the monitor on a different computer then first to see if it works properly and see if there is some setting. | 14:15 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, why do you don't want to add meta-rust to bblayers? | 14:15 |
| CTtpollard | rokrau: have you tried the onboard settings menu on the screen? | 14:15 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I'm fine with all the branches having meta-rust as a submodule | 14:16 |
| rokrau | CTtpollard: no - not yet. It was not auto-detecting source, so all I did was switch to HDMI for input, have not looked what elese there might need to be done. | 14:16 |
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| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, is there a problem of keeping rvi sota client recipe in the master of meta-genivi-demo since we have meta-rust as a submodule of GDP? | 14:18 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: it's a submodule in the qemu-ci branch of gdp, but no others yet | 14:19 |
| CTtpollard | and we're wanting to push updates to meta-genivi-demo which have fixes for issues in porter and raspi | 14:19 |
| CTtpollard | which if they're based off master, will not allow them to build | 14:19 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, ok, I see. btw because of such cases I think that the new approach for hw platforms and the new structure for meta-genivi-demo will be more convenient in future :) | 14:21 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: yeh, the sota stuff could be in a sub directory | 14:22 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: do you want me to do that? | 14:23 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, it is up to you. | 14:23 |
| CTtpollard | heh I know, but as I've tried to get across I don't know what genivi's effort is in regards to it being default in GDP | 14:24 |
| CTtpollard | I'll raise the topic in the meeting today | 14:25 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I am not sure too. It is a bit of a politics :) | 14:26 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: ') | 14:26 |
| CTtpollard | ;) | 14:26 |
| CTtpollard | if the agreement is yes have it built by default, then we're all good and I can enforce meta-rust on all branches etc | 14:26 |
| CTtpollard | I'm just awaiting the comment 'why are we bringing in meta-rust if we're not building it' | 14:27 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I'll push for meta-ivi to be included by default, and sota client to still be a user choice | 14:37 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, ok | 14:40 |
| amcgee7 | Question about the GDP. Dose the GDP have Bluez5 or bluetooth le support? | 14:49 |
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| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I am still checking if there is an agreement to build RVI SOTA client by default in GDP. | 14:56 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I pinged my colleagues about that and I will let you know as soon as I retrieve some information. | 14:57 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: cool | 14:58 |
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| jeremiah | amcgee7: It should hvae bluez 5 | 15:01 |
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| chbae | Hi CTtpollard | 15:46 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: I missed today’s call. Is there any issue? | 15:46 |
| chbae | rokrau: my patch works? | 15:49 |
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| rokrau | chbae: I was able to build it - yes | 15:58 |
| rokrau | chbae: Not in the office yet - so I can not test it. | 15:58 |
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| chbae | rokrau: ok. :) cool. Do you have any idea about keyboard problem? | 15:59 |
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| rokrau | chbae: No not yet about the keyboard issue - at one point I had a full stack trace - but trying to get a workable solution for AMM first. | 16:03 |
| chbae | rokrau: ok. thanks for your effort. I’m also tring to find the clue but it’s difficult. | 16:04 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: just sent you an email :) | 16:04 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: thanks for your input on sota | 16:05 |
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| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, it was my pleasure. | 16:05 |
| leon-anavi | thank you for your time reviewing and merging my patches. | 16:05 |
| CTtpollard | I will push the meta-rust patches to porter branch tomorrow, and hopefully chbae is ok with that raspi branch having it also | 16:06 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: I fall asleep suddenly :( and missed meeting time. | 16:06 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: it's understandable, it's late for you :) | 16:06 |
| chbae | leon-anavi: How can I test your patches in runtime? | 16:07 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: do you mind if I push meta-rust support patches to your genivi-demo-platform | 16:07 |
| CTtpollard | or ofc you can do it yourself | 16:07 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: I’ll do it. :) | 16:08 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/RVI+SOTA+Client | 16:08 |
| leon-anavi | chbae, please following the instructions for testing RVI SOTA client from GENIVI wiki: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/RVI+SOTA+Client | 16:08 |
| CTtpollard | heh | 16:08 |
| CTtpollard | snap | 16:08 |
| leon-anavi | :) | 16:08 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi has patches on the mailing list to add the submodule, and add the path to bblayers | 16:08 |
| chbae | leon-anavi: thanks. | 16:09 |
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| CTtpollard | chbae: and like I say, if you rebase your meta-genivi branch off master you should get the patch series for the recipes there | 16:10 |
| CTtpollard | but I have to go now, talk tomorrow | 16:10 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: my genivi-demo-platform branch will point out current master about meta-genivi-demo. | 16:10 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: ok see you. | 16:10 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: great | 16:11 |
| chbae | at that time, meta-rust will be added. | 16:11 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: just remember master is missing some of your latest patches, that's why I asked for a rebase that's all | 16:11 |
| CTtpollard | cool | 16:11 |
| CTtpollard | it also has the optional patch for the touchscreens used at the amm, which should help folk out | 16:12 |
| chbae | I know and I’ll maintain my branch in meta-genivi-demo with new patches. | 16:12 |
| chbae | ok. and please work with my keyboard problem :) | 16:12 |
| chbae | bye CTtpollard. let’s talk more tomorrow. | 16:13 |
| leon-anavi | bye CTtpollard | 16:13 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: it's on the list, we've been very busy here with the touch monitor investigation the past days | 16:13 |
| leon-anavi | chbae, do you have any progress with the wireless mouse and HMI Apps/Weston/libinput/udev? | 16:13 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: sure. | 16:13 |
| rokrau | chbae: I think the keyboard issue might come from the ivi extensions. I will try to debug it too | 16:14 |
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| chbae | leon-anavi: No progress about wireless mouse. | 16:14 |
| chbae | leon-anavi: I agree about your guessing (ivi extensions). | 16:15 |
| leon-anavi | chbae, I think we have 2 separate issues: 1. Weston/libinput confuse the mouse with a keyboard. 2. HMI apps are not launched if there is no mouse or touchscreen. | 16:15 |
| chbae | leon-anavi: I’m not experts about weston and shell. | 16:16 |
| leon-anavi | I had similar issues with older version of Weston on Tizen | 16:16 |
| chbae | 2. HMI apps are not launched if there is now mouse or touchscreen -> weston is not launched if there is no mouse or touchscreen | 16:17 |
| chbae | 3. HMI apps are not launched if there is keyboard. | 16:17 |
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| chbae | So I thought that there are 3 problem exactly. | 16:17 |
| CTtpollard | which yes seem to stem from ivi-shell, as desktop-shell seems to not have these issues | 16:18 |
| CTtpollard | but the wireless mouse presenting itself as keyboard is definitely lower level, in my opinion | 16:19 |
| chbae | CTtpollard: I agree. | 16:19 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, if we solve the issue with the wireless mouse that presents itself as a keyboard then HMI apps will be launched :) | 16:20 |
| chbae | I thought that the priority about the problem is 3->1 or 2 | 16:20 |
| leon-anavi | it will be a side effect :) | 16:20 |
| chbae | leon-anavi: yes. however the keyboard problem is still occurred. | 16:21 |
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| leon-anavi | chbae, right | 16:21 |
| leon-anavi | is there someone who is actively developing and maintaining these HMI apps? | 16:22 |
| leon-anavi | I am not familiar with any details regarding the Qt HMI apps. | 16:22 |
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| chbae | leon-anavi: We need to help ics. | 16:24 |
| chbae | ics need to help us :) | 16:24 |
| leon-anavi | chbae, :) | 16:25 |
| leon-anavi | chbae, I hope that this is not a deadlock ;) | 16:25 |
| leon-anavi | afk | 16:25 |
| chbae | I’ll go to bed. let’s talk more tomorrow | 16:26 |
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| leon-anavi | chbae, ok, see you tomorrow | 16:54 |
| chbae | leon-anavi: bye. Now I’m working to change my rpi branch because of your sota merge :) | 16:54 |
| leon-anavi | chbae nice :) | 16:55 |
| chbae | leon-anavi: Today I’ll build and test and merge tomorrow. | 16:55 |
| leon-anavi | ok | 16:55 |
| leon-anavi | sounds as a good plan | 16:55 |
| chbae | leon-anavi: I hope that tomorrow you can see your commit in chbae/raspberrypi2 branch. See you. | 16:56 |
| leon-anavi | chbae, excellent :) have a good night and see/chat you tomorrow. | 16:56 |
| chbae | bye | 16:57 |
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