IRC logs for #automotive for Wednesday, 2016-03-09

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Tarnykomorning08:23
CTtpollardhi Tarnyko08:28
Tarnykohi !08:37
CTtpollardI think Manchester has had its one day of Spring08:39
Tarnykojudging by annual statistics, you should see notable improvements next month :)08:42
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rjekhttp://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2016/03/man-hacks-tesla-firmware-finds-new-model-has-car-remotely-downgraded/08:53
rjekEven people who used to run online banks can't get this right :-/08:53
Tarnykothis one is still "ok," others like http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/02/nissans-connected-car-app-offline-after-shocking-vulnerability-revealed/ are pretty astonishing (no id, anonymous requests...)09:00
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leon-anavimorning09:07
Tarnykomorning leon-anavi09:07
janithat Leaf "hack" was quite a fiasco..10:47
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waltminerwill start the AGL CIAT call in a minute14:02
MrKeunerHi, is this channel an appropriate place for asking car repair questions?14:06
jbocklagenot really... it's more about software topics...14:14
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leon-anaviI browsing the branches of genivi-demo-platform.git. Which is the one for  GDP-ivi9 RC1 for QEMU? I see that meta-ivi has been updated in several branches, including qemux86-64.14:49
leon-anavi*I'm14:49
CTtpollardleon-anavi: http://git.projects.genivi.org/?p=genivi-demo-platform.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/qemux86-64-ivi9-rc114:50
leon-anavi10x14:51
CTtpollardbut yes, that's also the same content as the qemu-ci branch. The branch is used by a pipeline on the go.genivi server for verification before merging14:51
leon-anaviok, I will launch a local build from scratch14:51
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leon-anaviCTtpollard, what is the status of Poky for GDP-ivi9?15:05
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CTtpollardleon-anavi: it uses 1.8 Fido15:12
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leon-anaviIt seems as an older version of Fido. The latest commit in poky from GDP-ivi9 is from 2015-06-0315:18
leon-anaviis there a plan to sync with the latest version of fido?15:18
CTtpollardleon-anavi: at the time the branch was created, it was the head of the fido branch15:18
CTtpollardunfortunately due to the nature of submodules we have to point at exact commits(which is helpful is someways as upstream changes could break things) so they can get out of sync with upstream15:19
leon-anavinowdays it lacks a lot of security fixes15:20
leon-anavi*nowadays15:20
leon-anaviI suggest to point the sub module to a newer version for GDP-ivi915:20
leon-anaviShould I mention this proposition to a wider audience through mailing lists?15:22
CTtpollardleon-anavi: we'll happily accept a patch for that to the mailing list15:22
leon-anaviok, nice, I have contributed anything to GDP yet :)15:22
leon-anaviIt sounds like a nice challenge :)15:22
leon-anavilet me read the rules for contributors15:22
CTtpollardleon-anavi: we have to sync branches for all the latest commits in meta-genivi-demo / meta-renesas etc, so this is no different15:22
leon-anaviok, the rules seem straight-forward. I registered to genivi-projects@lists.genivi.org long ago. According to the docs the patches are submitted for a review with "git send-email".15:28
leon-anaviShould I report it in bugzilla first?15:28
CTtpollardleon-anavi: take a look at the README & MAINTAINERS in meta-genivi-demo15:30
leon-anaviok15:31
leon-anaviin which category should I submit the report? Yocto baseline or GENIVI Demonstration Platform?15:34
CTtpollardGDP15:35
CTtpollardyocto baseline is for meta-ivi specifics15:35
leon-anavihm... sorry for asking silly questions but I am confused about the bug trackers.15:37
leon-anavithis wiki article leads to bugzilla: http://wiki.projects.genivi.org/index.php/GENIVI_Demo_Platform#How_do_I_contribute_to_the_GENIVI_Demo_Platform.3F15:37
leon-anavibut I am following the discussion about rpi2 which is JIRA.15:38
leon-anaviIs JIRA the right bug tracker?15:38
CTtpollardyes, wiki.projects.genivi is going through depreciation15:39
CTtpollardleon-anavi: https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=1156721015:40
leon-anaviok, thanks15:41
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leon-anavithe outdated poky is officially a known issue :) https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-11715:54
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hx40are there any hardware who i can test genivi software maybe on my BMW car at the moment?15:55
hx40or is it only software development with quemu?15:55
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leon-anavihi hx40 there are releases of GDP which you can try on Renesas koelsch&porter boards, you should be able to get working with intel devices and there are ongoing efforts for rpi support.16:01
CTtpollardleon-anavi: we support minnowboard, that's probably the best place to start for other intel support16:03
leon-anavinice, minnowboards are great devices16:03
toscalixGDP call starts16:04
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hx40cool! thanks ! the boards looks really nice !16:05
hx40which version doesen't matter ?16:06
hx4032 or 64 bit16:06
CTtpollardminnowboard max is 64bit iirc16:07
CTtpollardchbae: gerrit and general git policy is an on going topic for genivi16:08
chbaeCTtpollard: Yes. I see :)16:09
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chbaeCTtpollard: I hope that it will be decided ASAP and i’ll join the tool team meeting later.16:10
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westonhi all16:16
westonany agl guys around16:16
hx40automotive grade linux?16:17
rjekI keep reading agl as "age, gender, location?" which reminds me of IRC of old.16:17
westonhx40: sorry, Yes16:18
westonrjek: :)16:18
hx40not really , just to clarify :-)16:18
hx40but i've been here for the same purpose16:19
hx40i would learn to make chiptuning for my own - not only file copy - make my own tables .... what is the best how to to learn these on my own, and what software did you prefere?16:22
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hx40oh for BMW E46 my 200216:23
hx40maybe on other channels better ask?16:24
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CTtpollardchbae: your patchset was raised in the GDP weekly call16:49
chbaeCTtpollard: Yes I was in there but I was working for another work and I didn’t get it.16:49
chbaeCTtpollard: Could you shortly summarize the meeting?16:50
CTtpollardchbae: your request for git access is being taken further, and the restructuring topic of meta-genivi-demo was brought forward as I believe it's important for other contributors / board maintainers so investigate16:51
CTtpollard*to investigate16:52
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chbaeCTtpollard: about git access, need to wait right? and about restructuring, i agree it’s important changes and we need to find good method together.16:56
CTtpollardchbae: I believe the git access is to be decided/granted in another meeting, those powers are above me16:58
chbaeCTtpollard: yes :)16:58
chbaeCTtpollard: I’m working for this work personally althought my company already joined genivi :)16:59
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waltminerDo you guys use synthetic or regular blinker fluid? I try to change mine every 10k miles17:16
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