IRC logs for #automotive for Tuesday, 2015-11-17

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* CTtpollard awakes launcher2 using amir's solution on raspi10:05
paulsherwoodtoscalix: are you around?10:09
toscalixpaulsherwood: yes10:10
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CTtpollarddid anyone at the latest genivi AMM attend the FSA demo and if so do you remember / have access to the commands needed to launch the app?11:59
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paulsherwoodi attended, but left early i'm afraid12:24
wschallerCTtpollard, have just forwarded you a post from Matthias, the launch instructions are at the bottom12:36
wschallerthe link to the script seems to be broken though12:37
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Tarnykohi13:02
* paulsherwood guesses the AGL Developer meeting no longer includes IRC13:03
waltminerWallt cannot manage IRC with only one display this week13:03
dl9pf# AGL Dev meeting started13:04
paulsherwoodwaltminer: ack. maybe you need to conscript a typist... that's one of philrob's tricks13:04
paulsherwooddl9pf: thanks!13:04
dl9pf# Topic - review of last weeks AIs13:04
dl9pf- AMB sorted out and merged.13:05
dl9pf- Update of AMB to 0.14 plus latest patches also done13:06
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dl9pf-  AMB currently using a sample plugin, additional configuration is WIP13:09
dl9pf# Topic snapshot / references13:11
kooltuxhttps://download.automotivelinux.org/AGL/snapshots/master/13:11
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dl9pf- snapshots in place at above url.13:19
dl9pf  folders for each nightly build, then subdirs for machine.13:19
dl9pf  deploy folder contains everything,  default.xml with hashes contains exact info to repo sync the exact setup.13:20
dl9pf  AI: "latest" link and file with info about latest builds13:21
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dl9pf# Topic  Upload issues AGL-JTA repo13:24
dl9pf-  Initial clone was uploaded directly to master bypassing gerrit13:24
dl9pf-  at least one follow-up change still fails when submitted through gerrit.13:25
dl9pf-  Checking with IT13:29
dl9pf# Topic Developer Workshop (Demo)13:31
dl9pf-  https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro/nov2015-f2f13:31
dl9pf-  QT-Apps (from JLR) integrated and running on porter boards, patches went in13:32
dl9pf-   review of action items from the devmeeting  (https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/_media/agl-distro/agl_workshop_notes_2015_11_11.pdf)13:34
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dl9pf# No other topics proposed13:37
dl9pf# End AGL Dev meeting13:37
paulsherwooddl9pf: thanks for the updates :)13:39
dl9pfnp13:39
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CTtpollardI've replied to the thread and Matthias for the FSA launch instructions13:51
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jlrmagnusgunnarx: You there?18:21
gunnarxjlrmagnus:  in another conf right now, might be slow to answer.  but yes.18:22
jlrmagnusRename "RVI Core" to "Transport". Ok with you?18:22
jlrmagnusSetting up the wiki page.18:22
gunnarxsounds good to me.  is there anything left named RVI after that?  I'm not 100% sure what core contains18:23
jlrmagnusNope18:23
jlrmagnusTransport, which is used by SOTA, Big Data, and Control.18:23
jlrmagnusI'll start with the charter and wiki, and move out from there.18:24
jlrmagnusIt may be a while before we've changed the name everywhere.18:24
aeicheIs RVI no longer a thing?18:25
jlrmagnusIt is, but since the GENIVI expert group is called RVI, we don' want to confuse the domain with specific components.18:25
aeicheAhh18:25
jlrmagnusRVI is more than just the link management, security, and protocol.18:25
aeicheDon't reduce RVI to it's mere components! It is greater than the whole!18:26
jlrmagnusIt is a concept! A paradigm!18:26
jlrmagnusIt is the light...18:27
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* paulsherwood turns away shielding his eyes, momentarily dazzled18:28
jlrmagnusgunnarx has quit in disgust.18:29
jlrmagnusAh yes Paul. Mr toools.18:29
jlrmagnusWe have a cool little V2XBoard that we want to put into Genivi.18:29
jlrmagnusPhilippe thought that tools may be the right home for it.18:29
jlrmagnusIt would add on nicely as a daughterboard to one of the reference hardware platforms, enabling telematics.18:29
jlrmagnusWho of you in tools would I talk to about that?18:30
jlrmagnushttps://github.com/PDXostc/rvi_v2x_board/blob/master/Doc/V2X%20board.pdf18:30
jlrmagnusSecond rev is being brought up as we speak.18:30
paulsherwoodjlrmagnus: start with me :)18:31
jlrmagnushttp://i.imgur.com/IYRL7dZ.jpg18:31
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paulsherwoodlooks neat!18:31
jlrmagnusWhat we want to do is to create a bridge between the entrepreneurial / hacker community and the OEM world.18:32
jlrmagnusThe V2XBoard allows people to either read OBD2, or raw CAN frames, add GPS coordinates and accelerometer data, and push the whole thing over to a backend server using the paradigm concept called RVI.18:33
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* paulsherwood is dazzled, again :)18:33
jlrmagnusOk. Major Decision made. I am sure Gunnar will approve.18:33
gunnarxHey, I'm reading the logs!18:33
jlrmagnusShit.18:33
gunnarxWifi crapped out for about 10 minutes, grr18:33
* paulsherwood likes the atmosphere of collaboration and can-do attitudes here18:34
jlrmagnusThat's because you don't have RVI. If you did, you would seamlessly switch to SMS until WiFi was back.18:34
jlrmagnusAnd that is not entirely a joke. We have a full-fledged solution for running ssh over SMS.18:34
aeicheThat was intentional gunnarx. We're making your internet spotty so we can make wreckless decisions18:34
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paulsherwoodlol18:34
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jlrmagnusAnyway. paulsherwood What is the procedure for evaluating and possibly adopting the V2XBoard into tools?18:34
JEEBhmm, is ivi-shell still TheThing with automotive wayland stuff?18:35
* JEEB is playing with the idea of a media player with a libmpv back-end18:35
JEEBI remember the JLR UI in Tizen IVI was running under "vanilla" weston, and the ICO thing under ivi-shell18:37
paulsherwoodjlrmagnus: we are quite informal in tools. i suggest start with an email to genivi-projects introducing and asking for guidance18:38
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jlrmagnusOk. I'll do that today.18:39
paulsherwoodit'll make it onto next weeks agenda for sure18:39
jlrmagnusWe also have the CANbus firewall, which we are wrapping up during the coming weeks.18:39
jlrmagnusIs that interesting too?18:39
jlrmagnusgunnarx snorts in disgust.18:39
paulsherwoodabsolutely! even rjek is interested18:39
jlrmagnusOki.18:39
jlrmagnusI'll send out an email today.18:39
paulsherwoodtvm18:39
gunnarxand GENIVI is doing hardware now apparently?  head spinning.18:48
gunnarxjlrmagnus:  what does "put into GENIVI" mean, with reference to the V2X?  Publish some supporting software?18:49
paulsherwoodgunnarx: afaict jlrmagnus is doing the hardware... :)18:50
jlrmagnusRVI meeting coming up.18:50
jlrmagnusTHe hardware has been done, although one rev may remain.18:50
gunnarxquestion remains18:50
paulsherwoodgunnarx: let's see how the discussion evolves?18:50
jlrmagnusTrue. My (very loose) guess is that we would treat it as a reference hardware?18:50
gunnarxhere, now?18:50
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paulsherwoodi was hoping to see jlrmagnus' email to the list first18:51
paulsherwood(and get some dinner)18:51
jlrmagnusThe development has been done, and it is more a question of hosting it and integrating it into a larger GENIVI context.18:51
gunnarxI thought I was going home too...18:51
paulsherwoodi think it's interesting, since it aligns with wanting to encourage more innovation, rpi etc18:51
gunnarxit's interesting for sure, just putting it in some context.  we'll have time to talk more about it I guess.18:52
jlrmagnusbrb18:53
jlrmagnusWeekly RVI project meeting. Fairly unorganized, but sometimes productive.18:54
jlrmagnusThis will morph into the weekly GENIVI RVI conf call.18:54
jlrmagnushttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/jaguarlandrover.com/rvi-vehicle18:54
jlrmagnusStarts at 11:00 PST / 20:00 CET18:54
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gunnarxcan't get the @#&#*! google plugin to work so I'm giving up19:10
jlrmagnusSorry.19:10
gunnarxdon't be, it must be google's fault or something.  upgraded firefox, installed the rpm... not sure what they want from me :)19:11
jlrmagnuschrome usually helps19:11
gunnarxover my dead ...19:11
gunnarxthat's the strategy, make all the other choices not work and get people to switch to chrome19:12
gunnarxit's dinner time anyway, talk to you all another day19:13
jlrmagnusENjoy.19:13
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jlrmagnusIs there a way to delete attachments in collab.genivi.org/wiki?19:38
jlrmagnushttps://collab.genivi.org/wiki/display/genivi/Remote+Vehicle+Interaction+Expert+Group19:58
jlrmagnusStole SI's page and ripped out all the good bits, leaving a boring template in place.19:58
jlrmagnuslunch19:58
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jlrmagnusEmail with hardware adoption proposal sent to genivi lists.21:00
jlrmagnus*genivi project list21:00
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gunnarxjlrmagnus: is the attachment you wanted to remove gone now?23:00
jlrmagnusI don't think so.23:11
jlrmagnusChecking23:11
jlrmagnusYes it is.23:11
jlrmagnusThe cleanup fairy must have visited.23:11
jlrmagnusThank you.23:11
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