IRC logs for #automotive for Wednesday, 2015-11-04

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Tarnykomorning08:12
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CTtpollardhi08:46
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fredcadetegood morning08:55
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Tarnykoleon-anavi:  hi09:08
Tarnykoleon-anavi: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75757009:08
leon-anavihi Tarnyko great, thanks :)09:09
Tarnykostill need to respond on their LMS bug (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=715145), situation seems quite confused09:11
leon-anaviI commented and backed up you patch for rygel09:15
Tarnykothanks !09:15
leon-anaviTarnyko, have you tried running Media Manager and connecting it to Rygel and LMS?09:16
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Tarnykoleon-anavi: no ; doesn't Media Manager depend on things such as the GENIVI Common C++ runtime :) ?09:16
Tarnykoand also jansson09:19
leon-anaviTarnyko, I am interested in getting it working :)09:19
Tarnykoleon-anavi: my idea was to write the missing "upstream" recipes (rygel, lightmediascanner...) so that the already existing GENIVI recipes, basically found in meta-ivi and your repo, can be integrated easily09:23
leon-anaviok09:24
Tarnykoleon-anavi: I do not exclude trying to do the integration myself at some point, but I need to switch to other components yet09:24
Tarnykoleon-anavi: it might be easy as dropping exisiting recipes in your Yocto layout and running the new binaries (didn't try)09:25
leon-anaviTarnyko, do you know if there are existing yocto recipes for media-manager?09:25
leon-anaviI am looking at media-manager.git log... there have not been any changes recently.09:28
Tarnykoleon-anavi: only saw this one (https://github.com/konsulko/tizen-distro/blob/master/meta-tizen/meta-open-ivi/recipes-apps/media-manager/media-manager.bb)09:28
leon-anaviTarnyko, this is the one I am working on :)09:29
Tarnykoyes :) I was also using this one when I was saying that it needs CommonAPI and jansson e.g.09:29
leon-anaviTarnyko, btw I also have a recipe for the Media Manager HTML5 app from AGL app suite: https://github.com/konsulko/tizen-distro/blob/master/meta-tizen/meta-open-ivi/recipes-apps/openivi-media-manager-app/openivi-media-manager-app_git.bb09:30
Tarnykointeresting ; long time ,o see "tizen-platform-config" :)09:31
Tarnykodoes GENIVI media-manager not compile properly using your w.i.p. recipe ?09:32
leon-anaviTarnyko, I am able to compile it09:34
leon-anaviTarnyko, I am exploring how to get it working and how to verify it is working successfully.09:42
leon-anavibtw I think we need a bunch of new systemd services for rygel, LMS and eventually media manager09:44
Tarnykoleon-anavi: I plan to push services for rygel and lms next week09:46
leon-anaviTarnyko, would you like me to start working on these services? If something unexpected occurs I should have some time this week for this.09:47
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Tarnykoleon-anavi: no pb, please do ! would be very helpful, indeed09:48
leon-anaviTarnyko, any ideas where I can find instructions to validate if meiad manager is working fine? So far I am reading the wiki and some slides...09:57
Tarnykoleon-anavi, did not even try to build once, I'll be of little help... media-manager maintainers may help you if you know where to ping them09:58
leon-anaviMay be I should ping the authors for the slides that I am reading right now09:59
Tarnykoin my experience, you should get in touch with anyone mentioned in related resources, eventually someone will know :)10:02
leon-anavi:010:14
leon-anavi:)10:14
leon-anaviTarnyko, this case reminds me: http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35984005.jpg10:14
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CTtpollardfinally, genivi hmi launcher splash on the raspi2!11:09
wschaller\o/11:11
leon-anaviCTtpollard, cool :)11:12
CTtpollard:)11:13
CTtpollardAmir posted to the mailing list that we could navigate around the launcher, so I've got a bit to go yet11:21
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CTtpollardcurrently the journalctl for gdp-hmi-launcher is showing as inactive11:29
CTtpollardhttp://paste.baserock.org/bayukuzore11:30
JEEBreminds me that I should grab an rpi2 at some point11:37
leon-anaviCTtpollard, are the instructions at the wiki up to date? http://wiki.projects.genivi.org/index.php/Hardware_Setup_and_Software_Installation/Rpi211:38
* paulsher1ood notes that baserock GDP on raspi has been working for a while :)11:39
paulsher1ood(thanks to pedroalvarez)11:39
pedroalvarezpaulsher1ood: yes, I keep failing to get some time to finish that work to make it public11:40
CTtpollardleon-anavi: well, there's not official build supported yet. My aim would be to integrate a branch into the the genivi-demo-project yocto repo. Currently I've built it from here, https://github.com/amirna2/genivi-manifest, with a few small fixes11:41
CTtpollardspeaking from the yocto side11:41
paulsher1oodpedroalvarez: it's public? we built and deployed it in the hands on at the AMM... there's video proving that :)11:41
pedroalvarezhm.. not sure if from the video we can prove it11:41
pedroalvarezwith making it public I mean providing an image, and the instructions to create it11:42
paulsher1oodyour branch is public. i can build it using public tools. i can follow the process i outlined for the hands on...http://wiki.baserock.org/genivi/hands-on-seoul11:43
paulsher1oodi agree some tidying would be worthwhile :)11:43
leon-anaviCTtpollard, hm... so is it using google repo instead of the combo-layer utility from Yocto Project?11:43
CTtpollardleon-anavi: yes, and for the genivi-demo-project we use git submodules instead11:44
leon-anaviCTtpollard, I was not aware about that. I am curious why have you decided not to use combo-layer?11:45
CTtpollardleon-anavi: here it is currently http://git.projects.genivi.org/?p=genivi-demo-platform.git;a=summary11:48
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CTtpollardto your question on combo-layer, I think git submodules was taken as more people are likely to have used it, which will hopefully let people contribute and use the platform11:53
leon-anaviCTtpollard, ok, I am a bit surprised because I thought there will be more tight integration with Yocto/OE tools.11:56
paulsher1oodsorry to be dumb, but what is combi-layer?11:57
CTtpollardpaulsher1ood: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Combo-layer11:58
leon-anaviCTtpollard, despite not using the combo-layer will the distro stick to Yocto project release schedule?11:58
paulsher1oodleon-anavi: GENIVI has its own release schedule11:58
paulsher1oodleon-anavi: but, according to Dan Cauchy, this is not a distro :)11:59
leon-anavipaulsher1ood, have a look at the link provided by CTtpollard. It is a tool that initializes a Yocto/OE distro from several meta-layers and help to maintain it. Poky uses it.11:59
paulsher1oodleon-anavi: ack, thanks11:59
leon-anavipaulsher1ood, I need to read more info about GENIVI and AGL plans for Yocto/OE :)11:59
leon-anaviobviously I am missing some bits of the puzzle at the moment :)12:00
paulsher1oodleon-anavi: me too :)12:00
paulsher1oodleon-anavi: one of the fundamentals i don't get is, if I want to build a 'distro' using yocto, seems i'll be basing off poky... but what if my release cadence and/or version requirements are not in line with poky's ?12:02
CTtpollarddon't use poky12:03
CTtpollardbut still, I've only seen systems rely on OE-core12:03
leon-anavipaulsher1ood, I don't feel very comfortable talking about this in a public channel as I might mess the terminology and the relationship between Yocto Project, Openembedded and Poky :D12:04
leon-anavipaulsher1ood, basically afaik Poky is the reference system of the Yocto Project. It contains: bitbake + metadata.12:06
leon-anavipaulsher1ood, so if you want to extend Poky you can add recipes for build new packages through new meta-layers.12:07
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leon-anavipaulsher1ood, this way you can also change the versions of certain packages. bbappend files are very useful in this case.12:09
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persialeon-anavi: The delightful thing about IRC is that most of us are wrong most of the time, and the rest of us understand that.  While someone could potentially point out you being wrong, as long as you mention beforehand that you might be wrong, you should feel confident, and even if you don't, unless you cite something off-IRC, most people will assume there is a chance you could be wrong anyway (just because it is IRC).13:12
leon-anavipersia :)13:13
fredcadeteif leon-anavi is wrong on this then I am wrong too13:16
leon-anavifredcadete, it is good that I am not alone :)13:17
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CTtpollard'object '/usr/lib/libEGL.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file)' should I presume that this is inferring that the file it wants does not exist at the given path?14:36
CTtpollardwhich is true, there is no file with that explicit name14:38
persiaWhat is the command line that causes that response?14:39
CTtpollarda systemd service is trying to exec gdp-hmi-launcher2 binary14:40
CTtpollardafter trying to set Environment=LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libEGL.so14:41
CTtpollardI've passed it libEGL.so.1.0.0 which exists, remedies that error but the launcher still seems to segfault14:46
persiaRight.  Telling it to load a library that doesn't exist won't work.  As for segfaulting, are you sure the launcher is built against the ABI for the library you are loading?15:03
CTtpollardpersia: not without deeper delving, and finding out how to check15:04
persia`nm -u ${foo}` should list all the symbols in an executable that need to be resolved externally.15:05
persia`nm -D ${bar}' should show all the exported symbols that can be found dynamically (if I recall correctly)15:06
persiaSo you can use these to map libraries to executables.15:06
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persiaAssuming the fault is an "unresolved symbol" fault.15:07
persiaIf it is something else, generate a stack trace, and go through that.15:07
persia(a segfault may have nothing to do with the libraries used)15:07
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CTtpollardthe gdp-hmi-launcher (not2) will execute correctly15:30
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fredcadetewhat's the difference between 2 and not2 ?15:40
CTtpollardnot2, let's call it 1? looks like a very basic PoC15:41
fredcadetedoes it also use qt and QML? does weston-simple-egl work ?15:43
CTtpollardat start time it declares it is using wayland-egl, as does launcher215:44
CTtpollardis genivi-dev a private mailing list?15:48
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wschallerCTtpollard, yes, it's on the GENIVI members' ml list at https://mail.genivi.org/15:53
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* CTtpollard sighs 15:54
jlrmagnusIn case people missed it: https://github.com/magnusfeuer/genivi_software_management/15:55
jlrmagnusFirst stab at the Genivi software management API evaluation code.15:55
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leon-anaviTarnyko, I create a couple of systemd services for lightmediascanner and rygel. I have to test them tomorrow and I will integrate them into the recipes.18:00
leon-anaviTime to go now, till tomorrow.18:00
Tarnykoleon-anavi: thanks a lot ! Good night :)18:01
leon-anaviTarnyko, you are welcome, see you18:02
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