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weston | hi all | 05:11 |
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weston | I have an R-CarM2 Koelsch board. I am trying to bring up GDP on that by following the steps mentioned in http://wiki.projects.genivi.org/index.php/Hardware_Setup_and_Software_Installation/koelsch%26porter . But I see the information is not proper for Koelsch and rather confusing with the Porter. Please check | 05:13 |
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CTtpollard | hi weston | 08:07 |
CTtpollard | you should be able to follow the quick start guide, but if you have any specific issues just ask me | 08:08 |
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weston | CTtpollard: Yes, for porter it is okay. But for Koelsch, that procedure is confusing. | 09:36 |
weston | CTtpollard: especially, the Obtain and Install Renesas Graphics Drivers section | 09:36 |
weston | CTtpollard: it is asking to refer Renesas BSP startup guide | 09:37 |
weston | CTtpollard: I have that guide too...But the Quick start for koelsch in this wiki for koelsh is different in the Renesas guide | 09:39 |
CTtpollard | that is the official process to obtain drivers for the koelsch board | 09:39 |
CTtpollard | I've had success using the click through 'evaluation drivers' from the porter on the koelsch, but I don't know how well supported it is | 09:40 |
weston | CTtpollard: I too had built it for porter | 09:40 |
weston | CTtpollard: but I have koelsch board and not porter | 09:41 |
weston | brb | 09:41 |
CTtpollard | try using the same drivers then | 09:41 |
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gunnarx | weston: koelsch board is (only) supported through your Renesas representative. Porter is the board that is possible to buy off the shelf and therefore supported through a more direct process (drivers downloadable using a web form) | 10:22 |
gunnarx | weston: what is your question in detail? Sorry I have to go afk me too - will check your response later... | 10:22 |
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CTtpollard | How did the gdp 8 demo go at the AMM? | 11:07 |
leon-anavi | Hi CTtpollard do you have progress with hardware graphics acceleration in rpi2? | 11:08 |
CTtpollard | leon-anavi: unfortunately not, I've taken to the genivi-project mailing list with my current progress in response to the person who provided the instructions | 11:09 |
leon-anavi | oh, let me have a look, I must have received it | 11:11 |
leon-anavi | yes, sorry my bad I should have checked my email before asking :) | 11:11 |
CTtpollard | I'd really like to have it as a supported branch in gdp | 11:13 |
CTtpollard | well, yocto gdp | 11:15 |
CTtpollard | I might have to look to dropping the vc4 driver for now, but it will hit on performance | 11:17 |
pedroalvarez | CTtpollard: IIRC, it was failing even with the fbdev backend | 11:20 |
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weston | CTtpollard: gunnarx back | 12:14 |
weston | gunnarx: then we might need to revisit the statements in wiki | 12:14 |
CTtpollard | weston: I'm not sure what your point is | 12:17 |
CTtpollard | the same instructions for evaluation drivers are also in the instruction set provided by meta-renesas | 12:19 |
weston | CTtpollard: sorry, the wiki page for quick start for koelsch may not be correct | 12:21 |
weston | it is correct for porter | 12:22 |
weston | should need to refer the complete yocto build steps to BSP guide | 12:22 |
weston | for koelsch | 12:22 |
weston | porter and koelsch has entirely different build set up | 12:22 |
weston | that is what I see after comparing the information in wiki and the BSP guide for koelsch | 12:23 |
weston | now it is written as similar till the graphics drivers | 12:23 |
CTtpollard | I'm sorry I can't digest what you're saying, it says to refer the sections provided in the bsp guide | 12:25 |
CTtpollard | if their is a problem with the instructions in the bsp guide, then that problem is with Renesas | 12:27 |
CTtpollard | *there | 12:27 |
weston | CTtpollard: sorry for the mis understanding | 12:28 |
weston | CTtpollard: whoever wrote the wiki is like that which says same steps for porter and koelsch till graphics drivers | 12:28 |
weston | which is not correct | 12:28 |
weston | it is correct for porter | 12:29 |
weston | but for koelsch we might need to refer the BSP guide completely | 12:29 |
CTtpollard | it says to refer to the BSP guide for the koeslch | 12:29 |
weston | CTtpollard: only for graphics package part | 12:30 |
CTtpollard | and summarises the step assuming you have access to the graphics drivers | 12:30 |
weston | CTtpollard: others are same as per the page | 12:30 |
CTtpollard | weston: the submodules repo and source script do the rest | 12:30 |
CTtpollard | referenced in the quick start | 12:30 |
weston | CTtpollard: but the BSP guide from Renesas does not mention about the GDP | 12:32 |
weston | and the graphics package naming and scripts are differenty | 12:32 |
CTtpollard | this is from the bsp guide 'sh (dir. of deliverable)/copy_proprietary_softwares-v180.sh $PKGS_DIR' | 12:34 |
CTtpollard | from our gdp wiki 'sh <path to Renesas BSP>/copy_proprietary_softwares-v1*.sh binary-tmp' | 12:34 |
CTtpollard | those are relative | 12:34 |
weston | CTtpollard: agree | 12:35 |
weston | CTtpollard: but my concern is different | 12:35 |
weston | Whether the Renesas BSP guide scripts are matching for GDP? | 12:36 |
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fredcadete | I sent a few meta-ivi fixes to the list: http://lists.genivi.org/pipermail/genivi-meta-ivi/2015-October/000676.html | 13:26 |
fredcadete | comment away | 13:26 |
fredcadete | I hope it's useful | 13:26 |
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* CTtpollard finds vc4 referenced in various places in the rootfs, but still lacks the .so | 14:30 | |
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weston | CTtpollard: confused, but I will check | 14:40 |
weston | CTtpollard: also, why koelsch graphics bins are not open? | 14:40 |
pedroalvarez | ask Renesas? | 14:44 |
JEEB | I thought most ARM GPU drivers were closed blobs? | 14:53 |
weston | JEEB: but can see OpenGLES3.0 + powerVR evaluation package for H2 | 14:58 |
weston | pedroalvarez: to whom? | 14:58 |
weston | CTtpollard: Whether Porter graphics driver kit work for koelsch? | 15:03 |
fredcadete | CTtpollard: have you had a look at this thread? https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2015-August/thread.html#25936 | 15:11 |
fredcadete | it's fairly recent | 15:11 |
fredcadete | but it looks like people in openembedded have been looking into that vc4 stuff | 15:11 |
CTtpollard | fredcadete: I've had a look, mesa 10.6 that they use with the vc4 fork of meta-raspberry pi from tizen is what I'm trying to get working | 15:14 |
fredcadete | maybe someone in #oe knows where the .so should be coming from? | 15:18 |
paulsher1ood | pedroalvarez: is there anything from the baserock gdp rpi implementation that can help CTtpollard here? | 15:19 |
pedroalvarez | I've already shared with him our Mesa definition (where I believe is the problem) | 15:20 |
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CTtpollard | 'EXTRA_OECONF = "--with-gallium-drivers=vc4 --enable-gles1 --enable-gles2 --with-egl-platforms=wayland,drm,null --with-dri-drivers=swrast --enable-gbm --enable-glx-tls --disable-glx"' | 15:20 |
CTtpollard | should be enough I think, and is in the mesa.inc (although hashed out) | 15:21 |
pedroalvarez | I tried to figure out what his recipe was building, but it was a bit messy | 15:21 |
pedroalvarez | and here it is again: http://git.baserock.org/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/baserock/baserock/definitions.git/tree/strata/mesa-common/mesa.morph | 15:23 |
CTtpollard | pedroalvarez: not far off what i'm going off from http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/VC4/ | 15:24 |
pedroalvarez | yup, that looks ok | 15:24 |
pedroalvarez | I don't get why "null" | 15:25 |
pedroalvarez | and we are doing --with-dri-drivers=no | 15:25 |
CTtpollard | pedroalvarez: well originally it was all commented out anyway, so I'm having to clean my mesa build and retry | 15:28 |
CTtpollard | but I'm sure I'll find the cause | 15:29 |
pedroalvarez | :) | 15:30 |
CTtpollard | the mesa.inc is definitely being configured at compile time, I pass a --foo flag and it failed | 15:32 |
CTtpollard | so I can try dropping the drm,null | 15:32 |
gunnarx | Hello gang. FYI (useful for GENIVI at least) I wrote a post on how to run WebEx on Linux. https://genivi-oss.atlassian.net/wiki/display/TOOL/WebEx+on+Linux | 15:37 |
CTtpollard | fredcadete: ty for posting the patches for meta renesas for fido | 15:38 |
gunnarx | Maybe some day we'll switch to a FOSS alternative... Any good ones? | 15:38 |
fredcadete | np | 15:40 |
fredcadete | I had a hard time understanding which meta-renesas tree to patch | 15:41 |
CTtpollard | I suppose a pull request to slawr is the best option? but he is probably best positioned to respond | 15:41 |
fredcadete | the patch breaks the build on yocto 1.7 or lower so I don't want to submit in the blank | 15:42 |
fredcadete | I need a meta-renesas that says they will support yocto 1.8 and drop 1.6 and 1.7 before submitting it | 15:43 |
fredcadete | anyway, slawr is cc'ed | 15:43 |
fredcadete | let's see if he bites | 15:43 |
fredcadete | :) | 15:43 |
CTtpollard | :) | 15:43 |
fredcadete | by the way, I ran a few times the porter and lager using mesa 10.4 and everything seemed to be okay | 15:47 |
myself | Oh hah. I just realized Koelsch is a type of beer too. Took me.... way too long. | 15:48 |
gunnarx | weston: In my experience the porter graphics libs do work for koelsch. The boards use the same SoC. | 15:48 |
gunnarx | That said, AFAIK the official line is still what I wrote above "koelsch board is (only) supported through your Renesas representative" | 15:48 |
gunnarx | Basically you should not have a koelsch unless you have received it from Renesas directly, and thereby you have a support line... So as far as I can see the instructions are valid? | 15:49 |
gunnarx | Unless you can again point out a specific contradiction, that can be fixed in the instructions. | 15:49 |
pedroalvarez | myself: I just realised they were types of beers :/ | 15:50 |
gunnarx | (I realize weston is offline but maybe he'll catch up on the logs) | 15:50 |
gunnarx | pedroalvarez, myself a little slow, lol | 15:51 |
gunnarx | Have you guys had gueze beer? | 15:51 |
myself | It was seeing "lager" up there adjacent to "porter" that finally made it click. Otherwise I assumed they were people's names or something. | 15:52 |
* CTtpollard hasn't | 15:52 | |
fredcadete | there will be a gueuze board?? | 15:52 |
gunnarx | Love it. When I'm in that mood... | 15:52 |
gunnarx | gueuze, thanks for correct spelling. | 15:52 |
myself | Oh neat, I've enjoyed the lambics I've tried. Will look into that. | 15:52 |
gunnarx | I won't comment on what other board names Renesas has, might be under NDA or something :) | 15:53 |
fredcadete | watch out for the modern gueuzes which are sweetened with aspartam. for the old-school bitter stuff you should look for "oude gueuze" | 15:53 |
gunnarx | +1 | 15:53 |
gunnarx | your mouth should cringe on the acidity, and want to run away and hide | 15:54 |
myself | So like Jamaican ginger beer, but not. | 15:54 |
fredcadete | I do drink the modern ones more often than the old ones | 15:54 |
myself | (that stuff is so strong it'll put hair on your tongue!) | 15:54 |
gunnarx | ugh, I don't like the strong ginger beers | 15:54 |
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fredcadete | he qtwebkit is a slow one | 16:51 |
CTtpollard | +1 | 16:51 |
fredcadete | that's one of the reasons setting up a package manager pays off | 16:51 |
fredcadete | no need to wait for the full image before testing | 16:51 |
CTtpollard | I'm using share dldir & sstatecache | 16:52 |
CTtpollard | on a 4core 8GB machine | 16:52 |
CTtpollard | allowing bitbake all threads | 16:52 |
CTtpollard | still | 16:52 |
CTtpollard | :'( | 16:52 |
myself | Those days when you put a leafblower on your CPU for a long compile... | 16:54 |
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gunnarx | CTtpollard: Minnowboard has a bunch of errors, do you get that also? | 17:42 |
gunnarx | http://hastebin.com/luxaliweto | 17:43 |
gunnarx | GDP for Minnowboard I mean. It still builds an image successfully so people may not care, but since they are errors, not warnings, bitbake returns failure (which is no good for a CI build) | 17:45 |
gunnarx | Should be an easy thing, why is even qt4 referenced, makes no sense... | 17:47 |
paulsher1ood | gunnarx: did you watch the livecast yet? :) | 17:49 |
gunnarx | oh yes, you bet! | 17:51 |
gunnarx | went to sleep. you have such a soothing voice... | 17:51 |
paulsher1ood | lol | 17:51 |
jlrmagnus | With that enticing British accent. | 17:52 |
gunnarx | Hello jlrmagnus, you looked for me the other day? | 17:52 |
gunnarx | paulsher1ood: you're very good at crowd-control. | 17:52 |
gunnarx | Move up to the front. Sit up straight. | 17:52 |
jlrmagnus | Hello gunnarx. I think it was about where to check in PoC code for the Software Management work. | 17:53 |
gunnarx | British police could use you at riots. | 17:53 |
* paulsher1ood things jlrmagnus' voice is more soothing | 17:53 | |
jlrmagnus | I have a dummy end-to-end system (minus IVI confirmation of installs) up and running. | 17:53 |
gunnarx | Oh, right. An email I should respond to? | 17:53 |
jlrmagnus | paulsher1ood, Nah, my Swedish accent grates people. | 17:53 |
jlrmagnus | I sent out a question to the SI list, but didn't receive much of an answer. | 17:54 |
gunnarx | that's what I thought, I'll answer it - let's get it moving | 17:55 |
jlrmagnus | Ok. If you are on the weekly SI conf tomorrow, we can talk about it then. | 17:56 |
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gunnarx | response sent, shouldn't be long to get a repo up I bet | 18:04 |
gunnarx | paulsher1ood: I think you and pedro did really well on the hands on - the other session leaders could learn from your screen cast. | 18:05 |
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pedroalvarez | that's a compliment \o/ | 18:10 |
gunnarx | yes, it is | 18:11 |
gunnarx | I asked in #yocto how to track down dependencies. Why is qt4-x11 requested into one version of the build at all? Anyone here know a really good way to track dependencies in yocto? | 18:13 |
gunnarx | oh, it's navit pulling in qt4 and X | 18:16 |
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jlrmagnus | Tnx. | 18:22 |
paulsher1ood | gunnarx: tvm :) | 18:27 |
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hentaixp | so anyone here do automotive tuning? | 22:44 |
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persia | hentaixp: folk here are mostly focused on automotive software loads. | 22:55 |
hentaixp | software loads? | 22:56 |
hentaixp | like what | 22:56 |
persia | Look the software that runs the center console, virtual instrument display software, navigation tools, autopark features, etc. | 22:59 |
persia | s/Look/Like/ | 23:00 |
hentaixp | autopark feature I would expect be part of the ecu | 23:00 |
hentaixp | than again maybe not | 23:01 |
hentaixp | because it requires tons of info to do that | 23:01 |
hentaixp | now that I think about its likely not part of the ecu, more likely something else | 23:01 |
persia | Right. Software that one runs on ECUs :). | 23:02 |
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hentaixp | none of those features you listed would run on the ecu | 23:02 |
hentaixp | maybe auto park but I doubt that now | 23:02 |
hentaixp | ecu has one main job usually and its generally operation of the power unit properly | 23:03 |
persia | I suppose I have a different definition of ECU. I thought the IVI had an ECU, and that autopark was a different ECU, collecting information over comms buses from lots of other ECUs. I may be mistaken. | 23:03 |
hentaixp | what does ECU stand for? | 23:04 |
persia | I think "Electronic Control Unit". | 23:04 |
hentaixp | you may see that somewhere but its generally engine control unit | 23:05 |
persia | To me, that would be "computer" in other environments. | 23:05 |
hentaixp | any control unit that works on other stuff will be named apttly | 23:05 |
persia | Ah, then we were miscommunication. Thanks for explaining how. :) | 23:05 |
hentaixp | like TCU | 23:05 |
hentaixp | or TCM | 23:06 |
hentaixp | transmission control unit\module | 23:06 |
hentaixp | my audi has several control units | 23:06 |
hentaixp | ecm, tcm, airbag, abs, radio, gauge cluster, immobilizer, etc | 23:07 |
persia | Right. Then software for control units, and from the traffic I have seen, mostly IVI. | 23:07 |
hentaixp | are you guys trying to develop something? | 23:08 |
persia | Yes. Common software that many OEMs can share to reduce the overall costs of automotive computation. | 23:09 |
hentaixp | hell ECM\ECU cost a lot | 23:12 |
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