IRC logs for #automotive for Wednesday, 2015-10-14

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CTtpollardgood morning07:27
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fredcadetegood morningm car guys07:45
jobolhello fred07:46
dzenhello07:51
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paulsherwoodhowdie07:56
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westonpaulsherwood: hello08:07
westonhi all08:08
paulsherwoodweston: i'm in a meeting08:08
westonpaulsherwood: sorry08:09
* paulsherwood too... he has too many meetings08:09
westonhi guys, is there any x86 port with GUI available for genivi?08:16
fredcadeteweston: hello. There's qemu and minnowboard targets08:20
fredcadetehttp://wiki.projects.genivi.org/index.php/GENIVI_Demo_Platform#Releases08:21
westonfredcadete: I had already taken the baserock x86 and ran in virtual box. But didn't see any GUI08:30
westonfredcadete: ohh, do we have R-CarM2 port?08:31
westonfredcadete: I have an R-Car M2 board08:31
paulsherwoodweston: do you mean baserock genivi baseline? instructions for starting weston are here http://wiki.baserock.org/genivi/#index6h208:32
* weston confused with the term baserock08:33
fredcadeteyes there is an R-CarM2 port08:39
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fredcadetebaserock is a system to build embedded distributions. It has about the same role as Yocto. http://wiki.baserock.org/08:40
westonfredcadete: which also runs with wayland-weston?08:40
fredcadeteweston: yes08:40
westonpaulsherwood: thank you. GUI is up and running in my virtual box08:40
westonfredcadete: thanks08:41
paulsherwoodkewl!!!08:41
westonfredcadete: what are the supported genivi distrubutions,platforms,kernel and u-boot etc08:41
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westonpaulsherwood: Also, I got the genivi login :)08:42
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fredcadeteweston: the only full distribution I know of is the GDP (Genivi Demo Platform). That's the link I sent08:44
fredcadetekernel and u-boot and etc will depend on the HW08:44
paulsherwoodcongratulations!  the downside if that is you now have a ****load of private documentation to plough through08:44
westonpaulsherwood: yes,yes. started reading..need to make *something* fpr CES 201608:45
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westonfredcadete: thank you. GDP runs on which are all platforms?08:45
paulsherwoodfredcadete: not quite true, i think? both Yocto GENIVI Baseline and Baserock GENIVI Baseline are both efffectively complete systems (both are available on actual hardware iiuc)08:45
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westonpaulsherwood: why we need two baselines?08:48
westonany vehicle HU runs with genivi ?08:48
fredcadetepaulsherwood: my bad. I thought that the baselines only provided basic metadata and other projects like GDP did stuff on top08:49
* weston confused08:49
paulsherwoodfredcadete: that's an unfortunate side-effect of genivi marketing/strategy communications vs engineering reality08:50
westonfredcadete: so we have other distro also otherthan GDP?08:50
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westonpaulsherwood: any examples I can run in x86 GUI?08:51
paulsherwoodweston: the normal wayland exmaples should be there08:52
paulsherwoodweston: or, as it says on that page, you could try weston-ivi-shell08:53
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westonpaulsherwood: Thank you08:59
westonpaulsherwood: [14:20] <weston> fredcadete: so we have other distro also otherthan GDP?08:59
paulsherwoodto be fair this is being discussed in GENIVI at this point - imo there is confusion which needs to be cleared up wrt baselines+gdp09:00
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westonpaulsherwood: I see one video from codethink in baserock09:03
westonin jtk109:03
westonpaulsherwood: I have that board09:03
westonpaulsherwood: tried EGLMockNavigation09:06
westonfailed to connect ilm connect09:06
westondisplay not available09:06
westonivi-controller not available09:07
westonfailed to connect display at ilm_client09:08
westonsegmentation fault09:08
paulsherwoodweston: maybe ask in #baserock?09:08
westonpaulsherwood: will debug it first09:08
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CTtpollardaudiomanager7.0 failing to build with the provided raspi patches to gdp09:49
CTtpollardit carries forward the patch for 6.109:51
fredcadetewhat's the failure?09:52
CTtpollardtrying to get something verbose to share from it09:53
CTtpollardhttp://paste.baserock.org/ezigonuzog09:55
fredcadete:S09:57
fredcadetegunnar had warned about audiomanager 709:58
fredcadetethose patches probably have to be rewritten09:58
CTtpollardIt would look that way, as they are carried from meta-genivi-demo and not ivi09:59
fredcadetethe tricky thing is the change from "6" to "7" in the audiomanager version10:01
fredcadeteI don't know what has changed10:01
CTtpollardI wonder if it's worth dropping the patches for now, as a trial anyway10:04
gunnarxCTtpollard, you can try without patches but I suppose there is functionality in them.  My understanding is that GDP adds patches that integrate AM with pulseaudio, a feature not coming out of audiomanager itself?10:09
gunnarxSo it's in reality GDP functionality that needs to be ported to new AM version I think.10:10
gunnarxI wouldn't be surprised if some of that functionality would be better suited as a component in a proper git repo also.10:11
CTtpollardyes it the AM integration with pulseaudio that the two patches carry10:17
gunnarxAM is one daemon plus custom plugins.  In reality is this not an alternative implementation of the plugins?  I imagine in this case it really would make sense to extract it into its own component instead of seeing it as a diff towards the example implementation.10:22
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CTtpollardsounds like a sensible approach if that is the case10:32
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CTtpollardfailing to build without the patches anyhow10:50
gunnarxYeah, it probably doesn't make sense without the patches - the GDP relies on them.  AM itself is required in the baseline releases.  So the new version should build there at least, but for the plugins that are product specific, it's really just example code.10:56
CTtpollardthat's what's offputting, I would expect it to build the vanilla recipe10:57
CTtpollardhttp://paste.baserock.org/oqajeyogar11:01
CTtpollardthat's with no appending of patches from genivi-demo11:09
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fredcadetethat's weird11:25
fredcadeteand that is too much C++ for me11:25
fredcadeteI think that CAmDatabaseHandlerSQLite should have given an implementation of getDomainOfCrossfader11:26
fredcadetehmm. in my build (that's passing) it is not building CAmDatabaseHandlerSQLite; it is building CAmDatabaseHandlerMap instead11:31
fredcadetethis comes from the define WITH_DATABASE_STORAGE11:31
CTtpollardwhat commit of meta-ivi is this on?11:32
fredcadete9.0.011:32
CTtpollard'22a2f32' ?11:34
fredcadete54618f8d7792791e3e87e34962fe9e4d01c1e45811:35
fredcadetehttp://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-ivi/commit/?id=54618f8d7792791e3e87e34962fe9e4d01c1e45811:35
fredcadeteanyway, did you remove the bbappend from meta-genivi-demo? because for audiomanager_6.1.bbappend, it was adding -DWITH_DATABASE_STORAGE=ON to EXTRA_OECMAKE11:36
CTtpollardok, I was just looking at the tip of 9.0 then, we're using the same master11:36
fredcadetemy guess is that the sql backend was broken when getDomainOfCrossfader was added11:37
CTtpollardfredcadete: I haven't removed the append fully no just the patches it wanted to apply, that seems like a good possibility though11:38
fredcadetemind, removing this WITH_DATABASE_STORAGE may be yet more functionality that is removed11:39
fredcadeteI think if you enable it then the audiomanager settings are saved to a sqlite database and kept across reboots11:39
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CTtpollardheh, looks like audiomanager must have dropped / namechanged some headers. am_monitor fails to compile with fatal error: audiomanagertypes.h: No such file or directory13:16
CTtpollard #include <audiomanagertypes.h>13:16
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fredcadeteCTtpollard:13:19
fredcadetethat's weird13:19
fredcadeteI have it in my build13:19
fredcadetedo you see it in build/tmp/sysroots/raspberrypi2/usr/include/audiomanager ?13:20
CTtpollardyes! weird!13:20
gunnarxCTtpollard, "I would expect it to build the vanilla recipe".  it being GDP?13:20
CTtpollardgunnarx: no AM7.0, removing the with_database_storage flag allowed it to compile13:22
gunnarxall is well then?  Just wondering what you meant when you wrote offputting above13:22
CTtpollardI was concerned to why it could not build without the offending patches, however fredcadete could well be correct that the sql backend is broken13:24
gunnarxI understand.  I might have been unclear, a few different points from me:13:24
gunnarx1. AM is in the baseline(s) They build the Daemon, and some also the plugins.13:25
gunnarxThe plugins are example code.13:25
gunnarxIn any real system like GDP, the plugins are expected to be replaced by system specific implementations13:26
gunnarxI therefore expect the baseline to build cleanly, at a minimum the Daemon, possibly also the example plugins13:26
CTtpollardagreed13:27
gunnarxBut once you have an actual application of the AM technology, you'll have custom changes.  Problems with those changes will be unique to GDP and you won't get help from the baseline.13:27
gunnarxHope that's clearer what I meant.13:28
gunnarx^^^ custom changes above, should mean custom implementation of plugins13:28
gunnarxnot the daemon, ideally13:28
CTtpollardthat's the view I have of the situation gunnarx13:33
gunnarxok, good, we're aligned13:35
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fredcadeteany meta-ivi people in the room14:37
fredcadete?14:37
fredcadeteI was wondering why meta-ivi's README.md recommends an untagged revision of poky14:38
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jlrmagnusMorning14:57
paulsherwoodhi :)15:00
FelixHhello15:00
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jlrmagnusHello FelixH and paulsherwood15:02
Tarnykothis review (rygel) takes soooo long  :(15:02
jlrmagnusgmacario1, are you there?15:03
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