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| * CTtpollard ponders where the best place to add the instructions for the new genivi-demo-project repo should go on the wiki | 10:37 | |
| CTtpollard | initially I was thinking giving it its own section as to not repeat it for every board, but it might be missed by people who click through for their specific demo case | 10:40 |
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| CTtpollard | I'll go for the 'on each board type' approach | 10:53 |
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| jeremiah | CTtpollard: I wonder if there's an "include" function which might allow one to write once, add everywhere. :-) | 11:41 |
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| CTtpollard | jeremiah: yes there is, but i'm not the biggest fan! | 12:50 |
| jeremiah | :) | 12:52 |
| CTtpollard | I prefer a page to have its own contents, but that might just be me | 12:54 |
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| jonathanmaw_ | Am I correct in thinking that the meta-ivi-common layer is solely meant for packages that have come from meta-ivi? | 13:35 |
| waltminer | no. They could be from meta-ivi, but in general they are considered common for any automotive distro | 13:36 |
| waltminer | and no I cannot site any examples at this time | 13:37 |
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| jonathanmaw_ | waltminer: ah, thanks. I've been asked for input about adding some recipes (that live in poky) into the packagegroup "packagegroup-ivi-common-os-commonlibs", and I'm trying to decide whether they fit there, or would be better-suited in meta-agl's recipes-ivi or recipes-core, instead. | 13:41 |
| waltminer | I understand you will be at the AMM next week | 13:42 |
| jonathanmaw_ | my gut intuition is that since none of those packages seem ivi-specific, and are provided by poky, they should be added to the packagegroup packagegroup-agl-core-os-commonlibs | 13:42 |
| jonathanmaw_ | waltminer: that is correct. I wonder if you understood that before I did :) | 13:43 |
| waltminer | I think so too. if they are already in poky they probably don’t belong in meta-ivi-common | 13:43 |
| waltminer | Well I understood you being voluntold to to go | 13:44 |
| paulsherwood | jonathanmaw_: you understood before waltminer | 13:46 |
| waltminer | I wondered when paulsherwood would pipe in | 13:47 |
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| paulsherwood | == AGL Layer Design/Committers Meeting Starts == | 14:03 |
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| paulsherwood | some audio problems | 14:06 |
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| paulsherwood | jan-simon is planning to setup jenkins server later this week | 14:08 |
| paulsherwood | will add LDAP later. initially it will just serve | 14:10 |
| jonathanmaw_ | there are a number of outstanding reviews, now any registered user can review (instead of just committers) | 14:11 |
| paulsherwood | https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/q/status:open | 14:13 |
| paulsherwood | AGL welcomes reviews from registered users | 14:13 |
| * paulsherwood notes it was a holiday in uk yesterday | 14:14 | |
| dl9pf_ | jenkins setup will happen thu/fri . primary goal is to support the workflow in jenkins with verified+1/-1 . | 14:15 |
| dl9pf_ | LDAP and SSO will be added later. Anonymous read-only view by default. | 14:15 |
| paulsherwood | some discussion about having devel builds containing gplv3 | 14:21 |
| paulsherwood | whereas 'production' builds must not | 14:21 |
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| paulsherwood | walt wants to further refine merging/tagging for AMM presentation next week | 14:22 |
| paulsherwood | discussion about integration of Qt5. Gerd submitted insturctions but not patches | 14:33 |
| * paulsherwood undertook to reply onlist asking for patches | 14:33 | |
| paulsherwood | http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/automotive-discussions/2015-September/000764.html | 14:33 |
| paulsherwood | discussion about layers | 14:36 |
| paulsherwood | there is still some confusion on this, in my opinion. hopefully we can get clearer together at the AMM next week | 14:37 |
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| paulsherwood | we all understand the need to not re-do the work that GENIVI is doing... but there are some signs that it may happen in spite of our best intentions | 14:38 |
| jonathanmaw_ | meta-ivi-common's os-common is a placeholder for now. GENIVI's lifecycle projects would go in there if they are selected, but AGL may choose to do something else. | 14:39 |
| paulsherwood | why would AGL do something else for that? | 14:39 |
| paulsherwood | waltminer: ^^? | 14:40 |
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| paulsherwood | discussion about lifecycle - genivi documentation is not public enough | 14:46 |
| * paulsherwood undertakes to request this strongly in GENIVI | 14:46 | |
| paulsherwood | discussion about tizen lifecycle approach - no sponsors of this in AGL so far | 14:47 |
| paulsherwood | the other potential is qt lifecycle | 14:48 |
| paulsherwood | this will be discussed at AMM next week | 14:48 |
| paulsherwood | waltminer is more concerned about other genivi components than lifecycle | 14:50 |
| paulsherwood | question about whether jonathanmaw_ can feasibly contribute to both common-os and multimedia | 14:53 |
| paulsherwood | it would be best if wr could contribute also here | 14:54 |
| waltminer | == AGL Layer Design/Committers Meeting Ends == | 14:56 |
| waltminer | Thanks everyone | 14:56 |
| CTtpollard | thanks for reporting it | 15:00 |
| gunnarx | CTtpollard: Got a question about hosting binary GDP build for QEMU. Have you built/tried a QEMU build (i.e. could we push such a branch to the project?) | 15:01 |
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| CTtpollard | gunnarx: it builds, and runs 'ok' under kvm-qemu | 15:02 |
| gunnarx | cool. Is it time to push the branch? | 15:03 |
| CTtpollard | gunnarx: I can't see any reason why not, I've just added instructions to the Renesas page of the gdp wiki for using the repo | 15:04 |
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| CTtpollard | gunnarx: it's a simple machine flag in local.conf and no changes to the bblayers | 15:11 |
| gunnarx | CTtpollard, sorry got busy. | 15:11 |
| CTtpollard | np | 15:11 |
| gunnarx | CTtpollard, that's nice - I think it's nice to have named branches for each platform just to show that it's there and with the new approach there is little documentation needed. | 15:12 |
| gunnarx | the list of branches are their own docs in a way | 15:13 |
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| gunnarx | why not push a branch anyway, even if it's just the one line change? | 15:13 |
| gunnarx | and meta-renesas and meta-intel BSP layers would also disappear I suppose | 15:14 |
| CTtpollard | gunnarx: totally, as we don't have a 'master' (yet), do you think it's best to branch from koelsh / porter and work off that? | 15:14 |
| gunnarx | right, we come back to the shared master discussion :) it becomes more relevant the more different branches we are to maintain. | 15:17 |
| CTtpollard | yes, hmm | 15:18 |
| gunnarx | Actually this should not matter much, you can likely branch off any of them. Assuming we create a master branch which is common, it should merge cleanly into the branch you created off of koelsch/porter/minnowboard | 15:19 |
| gunnarx | (I think :) | 15:19 |
| CTtpollard | create one where it's just a checkout of all the main required repos (so not renesas / intel etc) and rebase the current branches off it? | 15:19 |
| gunnarx | yes I think that's right. But that's likely the same result as if you simply take their common root and call that master | 15:20 |
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| CTtpollard | yep | 15:21 |
| gunnarx | assuming there is a common commit somewhere | 15:21 |
| gunnarx | thing is you can't really rebase them since they have been published | 15:21 |
| gunnarx | s/can't/shouldn't/ | 15:21 |
| CTtpollard | :/ | 15:23 |
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| CTtpollard | that would have got my vote | 15:25 |
| gunnarx | CTtpollard, sorry didn't understand, you want to rebase? | 15:27 |
| CTtpollard | yes, but not rebasing after publishing branches is something to avoid as you say | 15:28 |
| CTtpollard | I'd not taken that into account | 15:28 |
| gunnarx | ok, got it. yes especially when people are not that used to git, they will do a git pull on their existing repo and likely get some weird error msgs | 15:29 |
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| * CTtpollard takes a look at the tree | 15:31 | |
| gunnarx | The instructions (like how to run kvm-qemu) should probably go into the README on that branch. But a not bad alternative is to have the same README on all branches which is a superset of all the instructions (assuming they are manageable size) | 15:32 |
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| CTtpollard | I think a single readme with subsections | 15:34 |
| gunnarx | works for me | 15:34 |
| CTtpollard | although, then tweaks to it will require all branches to be rebased each time | 15:35 |
| gunnarx | it's a good idea to edit that on the master branch then and merge it in ;) | 15:35 |
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| gunnarx | ref to previous discussion I think you have to merge from master instead of rebase | 15:37 |
| * CTtpollard tries to think back | 15:39 | |
| gunnarx | think forward! :) | 15:43 |
| CTtpollard | I'm not sure why it would be merge | 15:44 |
| gunnarx | You mean it won't affect the commit hash of already existing changes? | 15:45 |
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| CTtpollard | hmm | 15:46 |
| CTtpollard | gunnarx: yes it will change the sha's | 15:51 |
| CTtpollard | but my uncertainty is to if that is really an issue in this use case | 15:53 |
| CTtpollard | the interal sha's on the modules will remain the same | 15:53 |
| CTtpollard | it would get interesting with users checking out branches and then rebasing and then it later being rebased | 15:55 |
| gunnarx | That sounds advanced :) I think they get trouble even on the first pull don't they, if the history changes | 15:56 |
| gunnarx | you could try it anyway. if you can't push the change without -f flag you have changed the history. | 15:57 |
| CTtpollard | merge shall suffice :) | 16:00 |
| CTtpollard | the benefit of the simplified histories from using rebase isn't worth it in this case | 16:05 |
| CTtpollard | anyway, I'm off for the evening | 16:09 |
| CTtpollard | bye gunnarx and everyone else | 16:09 |
| gunnarx | bye | 16:10 |
| CTtpollard | I'll probably branch of koelsch tomorrow, for the time being | 16:13 |
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| jlrmagnus | Weekly RVI meeting. In case there is an interest. | 17:59 |
| jlrmagnus | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/jaguarlandrover.com/rvi-vehicle | 17:59 |
| jlrmagnus | Short meeting. Completed. | 18:11 |
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