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| jeremiah | OpenEmbedded's perl build is dodgy, it gives two different versions for the perl binary. | 09:11 |
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| paulsherwood | lovely | 09:24 |
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| jeremiah | Fortunately the folks in #oe seem quite reasonable and appear open to updating both 1.7 and 1.8 to fix the perl config. | 09:37 |
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| paulsherwood | GENIVI Tools Team Meeting starting in 5 minutes | 12:55 |
| * paulsherwood notices his administrative process is falling apart... | 12:56 | |
| gunnarx | where is the agenda? tell me now. | 12:56 |
| gunnarx | :) | 12:56 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: i blame you. i was never cut out for 'management' :) | 12:57 |
| gunnarx | There's always our Trello board to go through... | 12:57 |
| paulsherwood | and last week's meeting... https://irclogs.baserock.org/automotive/%23automotive.2015-08-17.log.html#t2015-08-17T13:00:00 | 12:59 |
| paulsherwood | == GENIVI Tools Team Meeting == | 13:00 |
| paulsherwood | hi all | 13:00 |
| gunnarx | Ah yes, I should not be searching the Wiki anymore. | 13:00 |
| gunnarx | hi | 13:00 |
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| paulsherwood | gunnarx: no, i was intending to tidy the logs into minutes, and then my week happened instead | 13:00 |
| gunnarx | ok | 13:01 |
| paulsherwood | so i wonder if in general the irclogs are seen as 'good enough' or not? | 13:01 |
| paulsherwood | anyways... | 13:01 |
| paulsherwood | does anyone have new items for the agenda? | 13:02 |
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| paulsherwood | ok, well from last time.... | 13:03 |
| paulsherwood | == Wikis == | 13:03 |
| paulsherwood | any news or progress on this? | 13:03 |
| gunnarx | jreplogle online? | 13:03 |
| * paulsherwood tried to migrate, and discoveded it was going to be labour intensive | 13:04 | |
| gunnarx | doesn't look like it | 13:04 |
| gunnarx | migrate what? | 13:04 |
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| paulsherwood | content from wiki.projects.genivi.org | 13:04 |
| paulsherwood | joel summarised the process as follows: http://paste.baserock.org/usatoyuleg | 13:05 |
| gunnarx | yes, I was just trying to understand what content, to understand what types of content is most problematic. maybe that detail is not available right now | 13:05 |
| paulsherwood | which i had to summarise as ' ‘cut and paste’ and frab about' | 13:05 |
| gunnarx | Yes, the proposal there is to copy "rich text" | 13:05 |
| paulsherwood | i admit i was hoping someone could just 'run a script' and it would all be done | 13:06 |
| paulsherwood | but software is rarely like that | 13:06 |
| paulsherwood | any others have comments on wiki stuff? did anyone else try migrating content? | 13:07 |
| gunnarx | someone needs to write the script typically. | 13:07 |
| gunnarx | I fail to see a major problem with people migrating their content, it can't be more than a few minutes per major page right? Is copy paste not working well? | 13:08 |
| gunnarx | Granted I haven't tried. So that's why I'm asking, are there serious problems or just a matter of doing it? | 13:08 |
| paulsherwood | it's just a matter of doing it. cost of my time, futzing around with wikis versus all the other things people want me to do :) | 13:09 |
| paulsherwood | anyways, shall we move onto other topics? | 13:09 |
| gunnarx | yes, ok for me | 13:10 |
| paulsherwood | gah... i notice i didn't actually send out a reminder for this meeting | 13:10 |
| paulsherwood | == CommonAPI == | 13:10 |
| paulsherwood | i need help from others to advance this topic... | 13:11 |
| paulsherwood | and i fear by not notifying them, they may not be here :/ | 13:11 |
| gunnarx | I don't know what the open question is either. | 13:11 |
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| paulsherwood | i don't know that there is an open question, just that this is a sync point for discussion on it? | 13:12 |
| paulsherwood | s/it/CommonAPI, Franca/ | 13:12 |
| gunnarx | well, engaging the brain, I think last week I asked if the TT can evaluate the ability to efficiently use the Javatools as part of the build | 13:13 |
| pkonopelko | fwiw, my poc of common api for c will be published this week | 13:13 |
| paulsherwood | pkonopelko: cool! | 13:13 |
| gunnarx | pkonopelko: Cheers and congratulations | 13:13 |
| pkonopelko | not that it can do much for you, but it is a start | 13:13 |
| pkonopelko | well, ... not yet | 13:14 |
| gunnarx | wrt Java based tools it is in the trello card https://trello.com/c/gpAMIGZZ/25-normal-build-integration-for-commonapi. I suppose no progress? | 13:14 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: i was just checking that mysefl | 13:14 |
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| paulsherwood | we would need volunteer(s) | 13:15 |
| gunnarx | paulsherwood: do you have a list of assigned actions. is there something driving work forward (generally). Trello cards seem more to indicate who is generally "interested" | 13:15 |
| pkonopelko | unfortunately, there is already a large code base in java / xtend for franca idl | 13:15 |
| pkonopelko | replacing that is a sizable effort | 13:16 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: i do not have such a list. experience in other projects makes me wary of trying to 'assign' things in an open source environment, but i may be beign overcautious | 13:16 |
| gunnarx | pkonopelko: agree and the argument was made also last week. Therefore, I asked if the TT could confirm/deny the usability of those tools. | 13:16 |
| pkonopelko | accordingly to klaus birken, maintaining the tools in also more efficient with the current toolset | 13:16 |
| gunnarx | in our typical builds (baseline, GDP) | 13:16 |
| gunnarx | paulsherwood: OK, what happens typically if you assign things. does something blow up? ;) | 13:17 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: iirc there was discussion in BIT some months ago and both Baserock and Yocto maintainers flagged this as 'a lot of work' (but i may be mistaken) | 13:18 |
| stevel_ | +1 | 13:18 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: do we think there is enough interest/market/value in causing this to be considered as a sponsored effort? | 13:19 |
| gunnarx | Yeah it's not a new discussion. But if the argument is that the amount of work to move away from the current implementations is bigger, I fall back on the request again. | 13:19 |
| pkonopelko | maybe the most productive way is to put common api and baseline developers together into a sort of workshop | 13:19 |
| gunnarx | I'd like to see a documented evaluation. Is there more than the 4 words "a lot of work" | 13:19 |
| paulsherwood | pkonopelko: actually that sounds like a great idea | 13:19 |
| pkonopelko | are there any upcoming f2f that would be suitable? | 13:20 |
| paulsherwood | well, Seoul AMM? | 13:20 |
| pkonopelko | AMM in seoul is not well attended by commonapi developers, so I've heard | 13:20 |
| gunnarx | AMM | 13:20 |
| paulsherwood | ack. | 13:20 |
| gunnarx | true | 13:20 |
| pkonopelko | maybe upcoming si eg f2f in france? | 13:20 |
| paulsherwood | well, we can flag the possibility of such a workshop | 13:20 |
| gunnarx | but I don't know how much is unclear. It's a bunch of Java programs. Can they be run or not? | 13:21 |
| paulsherwood | lol. | 13:21 |
| gunnarx | does the discussion need the franca developers... is what I'm saying | 13:21 |
| gunnarx | s/discussion/evaluation or test/ | 13:21 |
| stevel_ | gunnararx: on BIT side no. Firm push back from both maintainers, i.e. hard to do in either build system, partly because we somewhat close to a milestone. | 13:21 |
| pkonopelko | it goes like that: commonapi devs: there are tools for that; baseline devs: they don't work | 13:21 |
| pkonopelko | so somebody is missing something | 13:22 |
| stevel_ | but no follow on detail on actually breaking out steps | 13:22 |
| gunnarx | i see | 13:22 |
| gunnarx | Any chance we could have a champion who digs into this a little on the mailing lists. E.g. do the commonapi developers have a working setup.... in yocto...? | 13:23 |
| gunnarx | can they share? can they explain more? | 13:23 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: would you mind actioning that yourself? you know the issues as well as anyone? | 13:24 |
| gunnarx | yes i mind, that's why I ask | 13:24 |
| gunnarx | ... | 13:24 |
| pkonopelko | personally, I plan to do this sooner or later, just not sure about the timeline | 13:24 |
| gunnarx | I just feel I drive many topics in the organization already | 13:25 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: understood | 13:25 |
| gunnarx | thanks. that's what I like to hear :) | 13:25 |
| gunnarx | thanks to pkonopelko that is | 13:25 |
| pkonopelko | I will have to figure this out for commonapi/c next | 13:25 |
| gunnarx | yes | 13:25 |
| paulsherwood | pkonopelko: could you take the action? | 13:25 |
| pkonopelko | this will likely happen as i start to put the first version of the generator together | 13:25 |
| pkonopelko | what is exactly the action? that on trello? | 13:26 |
| paulsherwood | write to the ml | 13:26 |
| stevel_ | can ask baseline mainteners side, but it would be low drive for the next few weeks.. | 13:26 |
| pkonopelko | paulsherwood: ok, once I will get to this I will do the digging (ml, etc.) | 13:26 |
| paulsherwood | pkonopelko: tvm | 13:26 |
| gunnarx | afaik the tools compile with javac and run with java from openjdk, openjdk is open source, javac is a compiler, as is gcc which is compiled from source. Has anyone really tried or is it just talk that this is "hard"... | 13:26 |
| pkonopelko | there is a prepackaged binary available with commonapi / c++ releases; in my trial it did not launch beacause of missing dependencies | 13:27 |
| stevel_ | main recall from maintainers that it would involve a lot of integration work | 13:27 |
| pkonopelko | ...I hope that with some digging all missing pieces can be identified | 13:28 |
| paulsherwood | on the baserock side, we did try integrating java, and found ourselves cursing a lot | 13:28 |
| gunnarx | pkonopelko: tell the genivi-ipc@ We need to raise issues and remind about them. | 13:28 |
| paulsherwood | ok, shall we move on? | 13:28 |
| gunnarx | ok | 13:28 |
| paulsherwood | == CIAT == | 13:28 |
| gunnarx | oh here we go... :) | 13:29 |
| paulsherwood | there has been some ml discussion on this. i feel like i'm trying to push water uphil | 13:29 |
| gunnarx | how deep are we going on today's meeting? | 13:29 |
| paulsherwood | how deep would you like to go? | 13:30 |
| stevel_ | paulsherwood: do you propose changing all paths in all src to point elsewhere? | 13:30 |
| gunnarx | paulsherwood: I don't understand. Is it the particular details that you want people to agree on.? | 13:30 |
| gunnarx | No one is pushing back on the project as a whole | 13:30 |
| gunnarx | it can't all be uphill | 13:31 |
| gunnarx | stevel_ ++ paulsherwood, you understand the question? | 13:32 |
| paulsherwood | stevel_: i believe from discussions here and elsewhere that yocto can be convinced to use a mirror, so i don't know that replacing all source paths is required | 13:32 |
| stevel_ | agreed, but that is the conclusion I draw from your comments | 13:33 |
| gunnarx | paulsherwood: no but if the recipe is requesting a tarball you can't provide a git in the mirror (is my assumption) | 13:33 |
| paulsherwood | you'd still want to mirror it, gunnarx, i think | 13:33 |
| gunnarx | yes | 13:34 |
| gunnarx | yes? | 13:34 |
| paulsherwood | and putting it into git would be better than leaving it as a tarball imo | 13:34 |
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| gunnarx | didn't get the point | 13:34 |
| paulsherwood | but this is minor detail | 13:34 |
| stevel_ | which possible results in a recipe change.. | 13:34 |
| gunnarx | the question that is opened up is of whether recipes need to change all over the place or not. if it means significant changes you are forking/maintaining layers | 13:34 |
| stevel_ | yep | 13:34 |
| gunnarx | layers that we should really be reusing as-is, probably | 13:35 |
| stevel_ | yocto mirror is one for one what you would see in a local download folder | 13:35 |
| gunnarx | thanks stevel_ for that important fact. we need facts -> conclusions | 13:35 |
| * gunnarx runs to build server to check | 13:36 | |
| stevel_ | I can switch between true upstream and yocto project mirror of poky meta downloads in a few lines of config in my local.conf. No recipe or inc changes required. | 13:36 |
| paulsherwood | ok | 13:37 |
| stevel_ | Carrying patches is a seperate but related question | 13:38 |
| gunnarx | quick check looks like about 50/50 % tarballs vs git in GDP | 13:38 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: no other types? | 13:39 |
| gunnarx | ignored :D | 13:39 |
| stevel_ | svn | 13:39 |
| gunnarx | I bet a few percent svn, hg etc. | 13:39 |
| stevel_ | navit is svn for example | 13:39 |
| paulsherwood | i fear i'm not in the right frame of mind to advance this discussion today | 13:40 |
| stevel_ | what I don't know is how well the concept of a YP mirror fits to the baserock build concept, i.e. whether a single mirror could cover both well | 13:41 |
| gunnarx | that's ok, but we have some shared understanding of the issues at least then? | 13:41 |
| gunnarx | or a baserock mirror fitting yocto ;) | 13:41 |
| stevel_ | yep | 13:42 |
| gunnarx | paulsherwood: we can move on if you want but I suspect the open concerns have been raised and understood, do you agree? | 13:42 |
| stevel_ | if it means changing all the recipes, badly =) | 13:42 |
| * paulsherwood doesn't know what to say | 13:43 | |
| paulsherwood | i suggest we move on. i'll collect my thoughts and write to the ml | 13:43 |
| gunnarx | yes, that's a good idea. We were just looking that you confirm understanding the issues? Not necessarily the severity of them, we can debate that. | 13:44 |
| gunnarx | but the nature of them. | 13:44 |
| stevel_ | just a suggestion paul, but if there is an existing open baserock mirror you can point at we can consider how well it would fit yocto | 13:44 |
| paulsherwood | git.baserock.org, you mean? | 13:45 |
| stevel_ | upstream source mirror | 13:45 |
| gunnarx | stevel_: git.baserock.org includes all the sources | 13:46 |
| gunnarx | you need to click on the [n] links to move forward | 13:46 |
| gunnarx | that's my understanding at least | 13:47 |
| paulsherwood | well, it has all of the sources for gdp, for example | 13:47 |
| stevel_ | which git does Lorry dump into? | 13:47 |
| paulsherwood | all of them | 13:47 |
| paulsherwood | every day | 13:47 |
| paulsherwood | anyway, let's move on please. | 13:48 |
| paulsherwood | == AOB == | 13:48 |
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| paulsherwood | are folks still happy with irc, or prefer to return to conf calls? | 13:48 |
| gunnarx | so so. both has its merits | 13:49 |
| * paulsherwood prefers irc, but admits that it's easier to muddle through on calls without preparing :) | 13:49 | |
| gunnarx | both have their merits, more correctly | 13:49 |
| CTtpollard | could the calls be on a public platform? | 13:50 |
| gunnarx | if you pay for it, sure :) | 13:50 |
| paulsherwood | yes, they were. | 13:50 |
| paulsherwood | (genivi was paying) | 13:50 |
| paulsherwood | but the proposal to do them here was to facilitate extra contributions and provide written record | 13:51 |
| paulsherwood | the latter is being achieved, but i've not seen a lot of new contributors to the discussion in public | 13:51 |
| paulsherwood | (some folks have commented +vely in private, though) | 13:51 |
| paulsherwood | any other AOB from folks? | 13:52 |
| gunnarx | fits my expectation tbh | 13:52 |
| pkonopelko | having something in public does not attract contributors by itself... | 13:52 |
| stevel_ | +1 on differing merits. Don't feel the calls are any shorter tbh unless only topics are yes/no | 13:52 |
| paulsherwood | stevel_: ack. however, you could be on a call *as well* as this meeting, and no-one would notice | 13:53 |
| gunnarx | I think we may set up a call once in a while. This being the only IRC meeting means it serves a purpose as something different. | 13:53 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: ack. would help us to re-establish that we are humans, not just bots :) | 13:53 |
| fredcadete | I like seeing these meetings even though I don't participate | 13:54 |
| gunnarx | so a vote to keep the majority of TT here for now, with maybe monthly exceptions | 13:54 |
| fredcadete | not that it should change your minds, though | 13:54 |
| paulsherwood | fredcadete: thanks for the feedback! | 13:54 |
| gunnarx | you should participate | 13:54 |
| stevel_ | posting on this thread is participating! | 13:54 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: makes sense | 13:54 |
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| paulsherwood | ok, any more AOB before i let you all dive into the rest of your day? | 13:55 |
| stevel_ | nope | 13:55 |
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| gunnarx | none from me | 13:55 |
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| paulsherwood | == Tools Team Meeting Ends == | 13:56 |
| paulsherwood | tvm | 13:56 |
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| tpollard_ | has anyone tried the confluence import tool? https://answers.atlassian.com/questions/12265453/import-from-mediawiki-to-confluence-5.7 | 14:11 |
| tpollard_ | https://marketplace.atlassian.com/archive/com.atlassian.uwc | 14:13 |
| fredcadete | a guy from atlassian says in that thread that he does not recommend using it... | 14:13 |
| paulsherwood | i think the chosen confluence is too new in any case? | 14:13 |
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| CTtpollard | probably | 14:16 |
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| gunnarx | lol, yocto/oe has a command to generate tarballs from all those pesky projects that use git repos. baserock devs don't know whether to laugh or cry. | 14:32 |
| paulsherwood | gunnarx: most git servers can generate tarballs too | 14:33 |
| jeremiah | Crap. I need a calendar reminder for this meeting. | 14:33 |
| paulsherwood | jeremiah: sorry, i didn't help by forgetting to email a reminder | 14:34 |
| jeremiah | paulsherwood: No problem :-) | 14:34 |
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| gunnarx | paulsherwood: true, just found it a little ironic | 14:35 |
| gunnarx | There's been some debate in Debian, which has always been about the upstream tarballs that are then patched. Many now argue that leaving the git environment serves little purpose. | 14:37 |
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| jeremiah | Hmm, hostnamectl hangs on the Porter. | 14:50 |
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| jeremiah | GDP doesn't seem to like running headless either. Brings up a bunch of HMI stuff by default. | 14:54 |
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| radiofree | yeah, weston is started by systemd | 14:58 |
| fredcadete | graphical output does seem useful for an IVI demo platform | 14:59 |
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| radiofree | :) | 15:01 |
| * radiofree would prefer an ivi with a keyboard and console | 15:01 | |
| radiofree | though it might not be too practical while driving | 15:02 |
| jeremiah | fredcadete: It is, however it should not interfere with running headless | 15:06 |
| fredcadete | that's true | 15:07 |
| jeremiah | Not sure what's happening, but the logs are full of failed HMI start-up errors. | 15:07 |
| fredcadete | is weston running? | 15:07 |
| jeremiah | I may connect a screen to see if that helps. :-) | 15:07 |
| fredcadete | if weston is not on the socket then applications will abort | 15:08 |
| fredcadete | and if there is no screen maybe weston will abort | 15:08 |
| jeremiah | No, weston has been killed. | 15:08 |
| jeremiah | Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2015-08-17 12:56:58 UTC; 1 weeks 0 days ago | 15:09 |
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| jeremiah | fredcadete: You may be right that weston won't run without a screen. | 15:10 |
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| stevel_ | jeremiah: at one point GDP also required the keyboard or mouse to be present to start. Can't recall which. Believe that is no longer the case though.. <fingers crossed> | 15:31 |
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| radiofree | there is a headless compositor for weston | 15:43 |
| radiofree | however you'd have to launch it with that, maybe be a bit smarter about the launch? use the headless compositor if there's no screens attached | 15:43 |
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