IRC logs for #automotive for Thursday, 2015-08-20

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CTtpollardanyone willing to take at my patch on the genivi-projects list, would like to get it pushed today09:26
fredcadetethe approach looks good to me09:32
fredcadeteI'd commit it if I could :)09:33
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CTtpollardfredcadete: thanks :)09:52
paulsherwoodCTtpollard: +2 then :)09:54
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CTtpollardgood point raised by gunnar on the ML re my patch, subject line tags would be useful10:09
paulsherwoodi agree10:10
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CTtpollardmerged10:14
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CTtpollardare you around jeremiah?10:17
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jeremiahHiya!13:07
jeremiahSorry, I've been afk13:07
jeremiahCTtpollard: If its about the patch, I say fire away. :-)13:07
CTtpollardjeremiah: the patch has been pushed now :)13:08
jeremiahw00t!13:08
jeremiahShould I test?13:08
CTtpollardjeremiah, you can if you wish13:08
CTtpollardI'm currently tinkering trying to build a bootable renesas system using mesa13:09
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jeremiahah, cool13:16
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radiofreeit'll be bootable with mesa, however it'll be slow because there's no mesa driver for those boards13:33
radiofreeit should be nice and fast on a minnowboard though, or a jetson, or anything where the freedreno driver can be used (snapdragon)13:34
jeremiahYeah, I associate mesa with x86 and OpenGL13:38
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jeremiahtjena Magnus13:38
jlrmagnusHej Jeremiah.13:39
jlrmagnusI keep forgetting you are based in Sweden.13:39
jeremiahSweden FTW!13:39
jlrmagnusI want to hear you say that in November.13:39
jeremiahlol13:39
radiofreejeremiah: nouveau and freedreno drivers are now good enough for what we need with the GDP13:40
paulsherwood+113:40
radiofreecertainly the nouveau one is13:40
jeremiahNovember is when people go indoors and drink13:40
jlrmagnusTrue.13:40
jlrmagnusNow that I'm in Portland, I will probably do the same.13:40
jlrmagnusbrb13:40
paulsherwoodbut we are interested to support the renesas boards13:40
jeremiahradiofree: Really? That is great to hear.13:40
paulsherwoodrenesas have been very supportive and active in genivi to get GDP this far13:40
radiofreejeremiah: https://vimeo.com/12781223213:40
jeremiahThe Renesas boards come with GFX so that is what I'm using.13:41
jeremiahradiofree: Snappy! That looks quite responsive. :-)13:42
paulsherwoodjeremiah: not Snappy, baserock :)13:42
jeremiahlol13:42
jeremiahSince we're sharing videos . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD4tgKYIThA13:43
paulsherwoodeven though the logos look suspiciously similar13:43
radiofreejeremiah: nice :D13:43
jeremiahlol13:44
paulsherwoodthat also looks very responsive13:44
jeremiahRenesas is great hardware. But Nvidia makes some great hardware too. :-)13:44
radiofreei have no preference for hardware, however I think as an open source project we should be providing a building solution using open source components13:45
radiofreeand *then* we have the meta-foo bsp's for various supported boards13:45
radiofreewhich essentially should just extract their proprietary stacks over mesa13:45
jeremiahradiofree: More and more BSPs are being hosted openly, fortunately.13:46
jeremiahIts the graphics drivers that are problematic13:46
radiofreejeremiah: indeed, however if we have the base build able with mesa then it should be a lot easier to add the build instructions for the board specific components afterwards13:47
radiofreee.g for i.mx6 meta-imx contains the freescale kernel + gpu blobs13:47
paulsherwood+1 (if bitbake can be used that way...)13:47
radiofreeyou can just extract those blobs over mesa13:47
jeremiahDo you feel its performance is good enough to do that?13:48
jeremiahPeople like shiny.13:48
radiofreejeremiah: the performance is in the blobs, it doesn't happen at compile time, you build with mesa, then replace it with the speedy binary blobs13:48
jeremiahGotcha.13:48
paulsherwoodjeremiah: i think he means establish a built/deployable default, and let folks stick the shiny on after they've checkedtheir licence position13:49
jeremiahIt certainly makes assembling a whole build easier.13:49
jeremiahpaulsherwood: Ah, okay. I'm starting to grok. :-)13:49
jeremiahAlbeit slowly.13:49
radiofreeindeed, i think it's a lot easier to build once, then extract (no more building! well apart from the kernel ;)) over the top than it is to have a build that's inextricably linked to hardware13:50
jonathanmawIs anyone else interested in reviewing/merging Tanikawa's patches to meta-agl and meta-renesas?13:50
radiofreeit's easier to support even more hardware with that approach13:50
CTtpollardgenivi-demo-platform.bb relies on gles-kernel-module for the renesas images, which includes on of the proprietary binaries from renesas13:51
paulsherwoodjonathanmaw: i can if no-one else is available13:51
paulsherwoodCTtpollard: i suggest we fix that :)13:51
radiofreeCTtpollard: that's a problem then :)13:51
CTtpollardpaulsherwood: yup,13:52
* paulsherwood waits, to see what follows the comma :)13:53
jeremiah:)13:53
paulsherwoodbtw, who here is going to ELCE?13:53
paulsherwoodfredcadete: ^^?13:53
paulsherwoodjlrmagnus: ^^?13:54
jeremiahCTtpollard: Did you stuff your yocto build onto an SD car and boot? I'm thinking tftp just for the fun of it.13:54
paulsherwoodradiofree: ^^?13:54
jeremiahI'm going13:54
jlrmagnusI am not. Sorry.13:54
jeremiahpaulsherwood: You've got what, two, three talks?13:54
paulsherwoodjeremiah: no offence, but i'm excluding people like you and me, who talk more than we code :)13:54
jeremiahheh13:54
* radiofree will be on holiday in japan13:54
jeremiahnice13:55
paulsherwoodi'm canvassing for engineers to participate in the automotive collaboration panel13:55
paulsherwoodjeremiah: one talk, one panel. and some demos to do i think13:57
CTtpollardjeremiah: eventually yet, still experiencing weird problem with it, not down to gdp though13:57
jeremiahI'll venture to fill some of the wiki regarding the tftp boot.13:59
jeremiahBummer. TFTP instructions for porter are incomplete. Have to go the SD card route. Oh well.14:30
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jeremiahCTtpollard: Did you not create a fat32 partition on your SD card for the boot dir?14:45
jeremiahOr did you just create the whole thing ext3?14:45
CTtpollardwhole ext314:46
jeremiahSo you just re-used the kernel that is on the porter14:47
jeremiahand then told Uboot what to boot for rootfs?14:47
jeremiahNo, you booted the kernel from the SD card14:48
jeremiah(At least if you copied the instructions on the wiki)14:48
jeremiahThat's convenient14:48
CTtpollardyep kernel and device tree from sd /boot14:48
jlrmagnusOff to the office. bbl.15:09
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fredcadete_catching up on the logs16:40
fredcadete_paulsherwood: yes I'm going to ELCE with a few more guys from AWTCE16:40
fredcadete_jeremiah: we are booting Lager with TFTP, I can help with debugging if you need16:41
fredcadete_it really should be HW independent16:41
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