IRC logs for #baserock for Monday, 2016-11-07

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pedroalvarezgah, so I (baserock-dev-owner) have received 7 bounce action notification emails from mailman12:35
pedroalvarezlooks like the email of some people that is subscribed to the list doesn't exist anymore12:36
pedroalvarezand I'm getting notified \o/12:36
pedroalvarezrjek: can I do anything about this?12:38
jjardonpedroalvarez: About that, Ive replied to your email but the it doesnt seem to be in the mail archives12:57
jjardonin https://listmaster.pepperfish.net/pipermail/baserock-dev-baserock.org/2016-November/thread.html12:58
pedroalvarezI've received it though12:59
pedroalvarezand I can see it in the archives12:59
jjardonpedroalvarez: can you? where?13:01
jjardonah, I see it now13:02
pedroalvarezwhen did you receive my email?13:02
jjardonpedroalvarez: was it waiting moderation approval or something?13:02
pedroalvareznope13:02
pedroalvarezI've received it an hour ago13:03
jjardonstrange then, seems it took almost an hour to reach the archives13:03
jjardonpedroalvarez: I got your email last thursday13:03
pedroalvarezI hope you mean friday, :P13:04
pedroalvarezI don't think emails can travel back in time13:04
pedroalvarezI'm asking because I also seemed to think that something was going wrong with the mailing list, but the email was already there and I didn't notice13:04
pedroalvarez"<pedroalvarez> rjek: pepperfish seems to be down, and a mail I sent on Friday hasn't arrived yet :/ "13:05
pedroalvarezbut it looks like all is fine13:05
jjardonpedroalvarez: Can you see the Paul email you refer to in your reply in the archives?13:07
pedroalvarezjjardon: yes, in october13:08
pedroalvarezhttps://listmaster.pepperfish.net/pipermail/baserock-dev-baserock.org/2016-October/013754.html13:08
jjardonpedroalvarez: oh, ok; so its the one I already replied to13:09
pedroalvarezjjardon: can you point me to your answer in the archives please?13:11
pedroalvarezlast weeks have been a bit messy in my mail client, not sure if I've missed it13:11
jjardonha, seems something went wrong: https://listmaster.pepperfish.net/pipermail/baserock-dev-baserock.org/2016-November/013755.html13:12
* paulsherwood apologizes - the moderated email is a duplicate13:12
paulsherwoodpedroalvarez, jjardon ^^13:13
paulsherwoodi accidentally sent it from a different mail address13:14
pedroalvarezyes yes, that's not a problem13:15
pedroalvarezI only received one of them though. Something weird going on somewhere13:16
jjardonpedroalvarez: any idea why my email looks like garbage? It can be because it included an attachment?13:17
pedroalvarezhm.. I don't think so. Ive seen mailman archives that mentioned attachments before and they were nice13:17
jjardonyeah, same here; let me send it again13:18
pedroalvarezmaybe it wasn't written in plaintext? I dont know :/13:18
rjekThe Pepperfish listmaster is Kinnison.  Bother him :)13:20
rjekI only do the inbound mail processing :)13:20
pedroalvarezthis will end up in me being the listmaster13:25
pedroalvarezoh no, pepeerfish listmaster, I can't become that13:25
rjekjjardon: There is a bug in Mailman's archival that can make some MIME-encoded emails just be displayed as base6413:26
rjekThey've not even fixed this in Mailman 3, IIRC13:26
pedroalvarezI haven't received the email though13:27
* rjek utters the appropriate incantations to summon a Kinnison.13:28
pedroalvarezjjardon: did you resend the email? (haven't received it yet)13:32
rjekpedroalvarez: If you have the login, this might be useful for diagnosing https://admin.pepperfish.net/accounts/baserock/maillog/20-baserock.org/?start=1477292822&end=147852437313:34
pedroalvarezhm.. there is a blue line in that graph that i don't like13:36
rjeklinest13:37
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pedroalvarezI can't make any sense of it13:40
rjekSo, there are missing emails?  Who sent them?  And when?13:41
rjekThis email from paulsherwood seemed to be accepted and delivered? https://admin.pepperfish.net/accounts/baserock/maillog/20-baserock.org/30a7-6958-ed83-163b/13:41
pedroalvarezi think it's this one: https://admin.pepperfish.net/accounts/baserock/maillog/20-baserock.org/9ceb-72b7-ad36-7bde/13:42
pedroalvarezthe one it's missing13:42
pedroalvarez(in my inbox)13:42
rjekOK, let me have a look13:42
rjekpedroalvarez: Where is it missing from if it's in your inbox?13:43
pedroalvarezwhat I mean is that it's missing in my inbox, I never received it13:43
* rjek creates a kanban card to not show the "Show spam map" button when viewing only one transaction, as a) it won't make sense, and b) it doesn't work13:43
rjekOK13:44
rjekpedroalvarez: That log is basically where my involvement ceases; it will have been delivered to the listmaster and that's all Kinnison's fault, but I'll see if I can find where it went13:44
pedroalvarezthanks :)13:48
rjekNov  1 10:51:07 outmail postfix/smtp[30556]: 42278BCE: to=<pedro.alvarez@codethink.co.uk>, relay=inmail0.dc.codethink.co.uk[185.43.218.152]:25, delay=65, delays=0.06/0.01/0.67/65, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 OK id=1c1Wea-0004Cu-CN)13:57
rjekSo, AFAICT, the mail was delivered to inmail0.dc.codethink.co.uk13:57
pedroalvarezright, so my client being silly13:58
rjekpedroalvarez: You might want to ask gary_perkins or DavePage to look at the logs on inmail0 for 1c1Wea-0004Cu-CN to see what was done with it13:58
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rjek(Pepperfish's mail setup is slightly exciting and can make debugging this sort of thing involved, as for mailing lists there are four servers involved.)14:08
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gary_perkinspedroalvarez: I'm looking at it.14:17
gary_perkinsmainlog.6:2016-11-01 10:51:06 1c1Wea-0004Cu-CN <= baserock-dev-bounces@baserock.org H=bagpuss.pepperfish.net [148.251.8.16] P=esmtps X=TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256 S=11627 id=CAF6QBXGqR81y_Xf3A11nVgzGsVkdGa4M5cewYPkVhyY-GH+xuQ@mail.gmail.com T="Re: Proposal: gitlab.com/baserock/definitions as definitions\n canonical source (was Re: RFC: Gitlab " from <baserock-dev-bounces@baserock.org> for adam.coldrick@codethink.co.uk14:17
gary_perkins+ more codethings14:17
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gary_perkinsincudes myself and pedroalvarez, yet I've not recieved it either14:19
pedroalvarezgreat, that means I'm a bit more sane than what I thought14:19
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gary_perkinsNov  1 10:51:20 imap1 dovecot: lda(pedroalvarez): sieve: msgid=<CAF6QBXGqR81y_Xf3A11nVgzGsVkdGa4M5cewYPkVhyY-GH+xuQ@mail.gmail.com>: stored mail into mailbox 'Baserock/Baserock-dev'14:30
gary_perkinspedroalvarez: ^^ it was delivered :)14:31
rjekhaha14:31
gary_perkinspedroalvarez: but that's when you had '/' in your Sieve script14:31
gary_perkinsso I know where it's gone. I'll go retireve it14:32
pedroalvarezgrr14:33
pedroalvarezgary_perkins: thanks for looking into it14:34
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gary_perkinspedroalvarez: you should have a new new emails in Baserock.Baserock-dev :)14:37
gary_perkinspedroalvarez: also Baserock.Baserock-mail14:39
pedroalvarezgary_perkins: tvm!14:40
pedroalvarezyes, I'm receiving emails now regarding broken links in the wiki :/14:40
pedroalvarezthis also explains why took me 4 ~ days to see the moderator request14:44
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leemingDoes anyone have any ideas about this horrible dump of an error message/log.... http://paste.baserock.org/pujajilomo16:21
leemingjust going to have a look at glibc and wade through the build-commands for ref :\16:22
jmacsWhat the hell...16:23
rjekPerhaps it's trying to do mkdir --version in order to guess if it supports GNU extensions, and you don't?16:23
rjekBut it's pretty bizarre16:23
jmacs"gcc -c /dev/null" might actually be a valid command16:24
jmacsDid something earlier write to /dev/null; before /dev/null was set up as an actual device?16:25
leeming/dev/null is setup before it all runs16:26
leemingas in, it is using the host /dev16:27
jmacsCan you run anything in that environment? I'd like to see what "cat /dev/null" does16:28
jmacsBecause I can't explain that unless /dev/null is actually returning data16:28
leemingah, looking at the system it created... there is a normal file called "/dev/null" with some rubbish pipped into it16:33
leemingmaybe /dev is being cleared by some stage16:34
leemingah... i think i know what is wrong..... src<->dest mixed up when binding dev... derp16:40
paulsherwoodprogress :)16:41
leeminglog files ;)16:41
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