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| locallycompact | how much space do I need for a g.b.o mirror these days? | 13:05 |
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| radiofree | sorry | 13:06 |
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| benbrown_ | Huh? radiofree stopped evolving! | 13:07 |
| pedroalvarez | locallycompact: only for gits? let me check | 13:07 |
| pedroalvarez | locallycompact: question: including the copy that lorry has? or without it? | 13:08 |
| pedroalvarez | so "space of all the gits" vs "space that a trove needs to mirror all the gits" | 13:09 |
| locallycompact | pedroalvarez, I guess with, a full downstream trove | 13:09 |
| pedroalvarez | ok give `du` a moment | 13:10 |
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| locallycompact | pedroalvarez, this is a long moment | 13:29 |
| pedroalvarez | locallycompact: 52.6Glorry/ | 13:32 |
| pedroalvarez | it's still with git/ | 13:32 |
| pedroalvarez | git/ should be around 1/2 times lorry/ IIRC | 13:36 |
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| pedroalvarez | benbrown_: thanks for spotting that! Now merged | 14:29 |
| benbrown_ | pedroalvarez: Thanks! | 14:30 |
| mwilliams_ct | \o/ concourse can build a bit more then :D | 14:30 |
| pedroalvarez | nice | 14:30 |
| pedroalvarez | let's see how many more errors you find | 14:30 |
| mwilliams_ct | I'm pretty pleased that the CI worked exactly as it should and spotted something was wrong | 14:32 |
| mwilliams_ct | less pleased that I spent literally seconds blaming myself before I decided to blame you instead | 14:32 |
| pedroalvarez | only seconds? that's good | 14:34 |
| mwilliams_ct | ;) | 14:34 |
| pedroalvarez | locallycompact: 52.6Ggit/ | 14:52 |
| locallycompact | pedroalvarez, that was a a very long long long. | 14:53 |
| locallycompact | pedroalvarez, thanks very much | 14:53 |
| pedroalvarez | I know, sorry | 14:53 |
| pedroalvarez | maybe there was a faster way to do it | 14:54 |
| persia | If you have dedicated mount points for specific data paths, filesystem metadata can provide that information in real-time. | 16:00 |
| paulsherwood | anyone seen gtristan lately? | 16:02 |
| * paulsherwood is wondering how the aboriginal exploration is going | 16:02 | |
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| gtristan | paulsherwood, I'm here at the hackfest... | 16:23 |
| gtristan | I read the email about naming of everything yesterday... | 16:24 |
| gtristan | I think... or I want, personally... groups to not be layers first of all, but what I mostly want understood is that groups are not mutually exclusive | 16:25 |
| gtristan | I thought maybe "assembly" may be a good word for ... a way one can assemble a bunch of components | 16:26 |
| gtristan | but I'm basically ambivalent about naming and dont care so much | 16:26 |
| gtristan | whats not nice about 'layers' is that it seems to imply, that if a component is in one layer, it cannot be repeated in another in the same system | 16:26 |
| gtristan | and thats what I think is part of the problem right now, stratum are containers of their chunks, instead of groups which simply refer to chunks which may appear more than once in the groups which are included in a system, but are only built once | 16:27 |
| gtristan | on aboriginal, I have not gotten to running ybd on the image again yet... what I did last time to build python and all the requirements to run ybd on aboriginal was... just a try and I dont want to waste time doing it again | 16:28 |
| rdale | what if the build-depends are different for the same chunk in different groups? | 16:28 |
| SotK | if a chunk is in more than one group, what do you do if each group asks for a different version of the chunk? | 16:28 |
| gtristan | about aboriginal, currently landley is looking into fixing the 'lfs control image' which should present a good way of extending aboriginal from within aboriginal, to reach a point (repeatably) at which ybd can run again | 16:29 |
| gtristan | To answer that, if they are parallel installable, they should be named differently | 16:30 |
| gtristan | like say, webkit-1 and webkit-2 is a good example | 16:30 |
| gtristan | if they are not parallel installable, the build should early return and report an error | 16:30 |
| Zara | what if the chunks aren't versioned except via, say, sha1? | 16:30 |
| gtristan | ideally, we have the ambivalences which my proposed variants provide, and there is a voting system | 16:31 |
| gtristan | Zara, this would be anyway impossible | 16:31 |
| gtristan | because you would have a directory full of all the chunk definitions | 16:31 |
| gtristan | and each one's file name would be named after the chunk | 16:31 |
| gtristan | you could never have 2 chunks with the same name | 16:32 |
| gtristan | the problem now is that they are contained in strata, so there is room for this error where we actually build 2 things and install them on top of eachother, and dont even have a clear story of which one "wins" | 16:32 |
| SotK | ah, so you would put the repo, ref, and so forth data in the chunk morphology? | 16:33 |
| gtristan | Anyway, I know this is not the case *right now*, but, if we're examining the renaming of everything, I would like to take into consideration for that renaming festival, that chunks are in fact sharable entities across stratum, and not contained inside of stratum | 16:33 |
| gtristan | SotK, yes, I would have one file for each chunk | 16:34 |
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| gtristan | and in fact the ref could potentially be conditionally different in a "variant"/"flavor", in which case other depending chunks could be ambivalent about the flavor, or prefer a specific one | 16:35 |
| gtristan | if we get to the point of implementing the variants approach, which... I think is of interest... | 16:35 |
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| paulsherwood | it is to me, for sure :) | 16:51 |
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| paulsherwood | anyways happy /win 3 | 17:59 |
| paulsherwood | bah... wrong window, wrong keys, wrong brain | 17:59 |
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| * persia thought we weren't using the word "morphology" anymore | 18:44 | |
| rdale | it's difficult to fix that when the main build tool is still called 'morph' and the definitions end in .morph | 18:50 |
| paulsherwood | heh. ybd handles .def files | 18:53 |
| rdale | .def is ok, or .baserock or .rock might be good too | 18:55 |
| rdale | .rock is probably 'too surprising' | 18:56 |
| paulsherwood | heh | 18:57 |
| paulsherwood | we settled on 'definitions' a long time ago. i didn't propose this change because there have been other more pressing matters | 18:58 |
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