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| * tiagogomes_ spots a baserock logo on gerrit | 09:55 | |
| pedroalvarez | \o/ | 09:55 |
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| Zara | ooh, looks good | 09:58 |
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| rdale | are morph releases no longer tagged? the most recent looks like baserock-14.46, but that is from a year ago | 13:22 |
| persia | It may be that morph no longer releases. | 13:24 |
| persia | I don't think morph has enough CI for CD, but it may be that we've fallen back to our old habit of just picking some recent SHA to put in a deifnitions release, rather than waiting for morph to release. | 13:25 |
| * SotK suspects that is the case | 13:25 | |
| rdale | it makes it tell to tell whether morph version x, supports definition format y, if morph doesn't have any sort of version | 13:28 |
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| VLetrmx | nice work on the logo whoever did that | 15:48 |
| rjek | ? | 15:48 |
| VLetrmx | https://gerrit.baserock.org/#/q/status:open | 15:48 |
| rjek | oh | 15:48 |
| tiagogomes_ | that was Pedro | 15:49 |
| rjek | btw, can somebody who has control over baserock.org's DNS please change the MX records to be "MX 10 mxc.pepperfish.net", that'd be dandy | 15:50 |
| rjek | (rather than MX 20 mx3.pepperfish.net and MX 10 mx0.pepperfish.net) | 15:51 |
| ssam2 | rjek: that would be the Codethink sysadmins | 16:06 |
| ssam2 | so gary_perkins | 16:06 |
| * rjek looks at gary_perkins | 16:07 | |
| gary_perkins | ok | 16:07 |
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| persia | Hrm? I thought the baserock DNS keys were known to some Baserock folk that weren't Codethink sysadmins, and with separate credentials to Codethink credentials. | 16:13 |
| persia | If this isn't true, then we should ask Codethink for independent DNS. | 16:14 |
| ssam2 | please do | 16:15 |
| ssam2 | i agree | 16:15 |
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| rjek | I am happy to host DNS as well as mail, btw | 16:15 |
| rjek | So you can administer it through the same interface | 16:16 |
| rjek | But that will require some degree of careful management of moving it | 16:16 |
| persia | Sponsors of infratructure are always welcome :) I think we need a clear understanding of the current state before taking action. | 16:16 |
| * persia only has memories of rumours, which is unlikely to be sufficiently authoritative | 16:17 | |
| gary_perkins | rjek: done. There is now just the one MX record, priority 10, pointing to mxc.pepperfish.net. | 16:20 |
| rjek | gary_perkins: Ta | 16:20 |
| * rjek also sets the "customer is competent" flag on the Baserock ppf account so you can add and delete mail and dns domains yourselves | 16:22 | |
| rjek | Do not click the delete buttons unless you mean it | 16:22 |
| ssam2 | seems like a good solution, thanks for the offer | 16:24 |
| ssam2 | but needs some time to actually orchestrate the move | 16:26 |
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| persia | We should probably have a formal discussion on the mailing list and get +1s from some of the mergers before taking action. | 16:28 |
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| VLetrmx | richard_maw, can you clarify the point about blocking on https://gerrit.baserock.org/#/c/1451/ ? i *think* i know what you mean, but i could be wrong | 17:47 |
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| VLetrmx | it would be nice if gerrit added cover letters | 17:51 |
| richard_maw | VLetrmx: if tar fails before opening the fifo, we block when we open() the FIFO | 17:51 |
| richard_maw | fifos are special | 17:51 |
| VLetrmx | okay | 17:52 |
| richard_maw | the problem with a regular pipe, is that we can either use a fixed string input and safely get the output, or we can throw away stdout/stderr and feed it input with morphlib.util.copyfileobj | 17:53 |
| richard_maw | either that, or we need an event loop for providing input and reading output | 17:54 |
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| richard_maw | but GKJFDing Popen.communicate only takes a fixed string, rather than any more useful way of providing input | 17:54 |
| richard_maw | as for chances of the subprocess dying before we open the FIFO, likely if it's busybox tar instead of gnu tar, since it will complain about the command-line arguments | 17:56 |
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| persia | I *like* that gerrit disallows cover letters: in my opinon most of that data either belongs in the commit message or in the change discussion. | 18:03 |
| VLetrmx | i don't know, sometimes you might want to describe what a series is trying to describe overall | 18:04 |
| VLetrmx | *achieve overall | 18:04 |
| persia | If you haven't managed to do that through the narrative of your commit messages, attempting to explain it away in a cover letter doens't help the person who needs to understand why you were doing things a decade later. | 18:05 |
| VLetrmx | i guess | 18:05 |
| persia | Not every cover letter does this, but many seem to describe the point of a series of things, most of which have one-line commit messages that only make sense to people who read the cover letter. | 18:05 |
| persia | Since the cover letter doesn't go into the repo, that means the commit messages don't make sense when using git blame. | 18:06 |
| persia | Which makes it hard to understand why some code construction that is confusing was put there in the first place. | 18:06 |
| ratmice______ | I think they are useful especially in large multi-maintainer projects where maintainers review some subset of a patch series which overlaps their domain | 18:16 |
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