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tiagogomesurgh, I was converting some cmdtests to yarns, and somehow I made the integration tests creating commits on my morph source directory, destroying my work10:09
tiagogomesAt least is Friday10:09
tiagogomes#10:09
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pedroalvarezpush often10:21
pedroalvarezalso, git reflog?10:22
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richard_mawpedroalvarez: but what if you forgot to flog it in the first place! what then‽10:23
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pedroalvarezthen you have no reason to continue living in this world...10:24
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richard_mawtiagogomes: reviewed https://gerrit.baserock.org/#/q/topic:dr_bb_cleanups13:19
tiagogomesrichard_maw thanks, will keep in mind your point about {Local,Remote}RefManager classes13:20
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pedroalvarezSo, latest release of baserock shows progress bars, which I like14:06
pedroalvarezbut: https://mason-x86-64.baserock.org/log/b955197858d4aab05a543bb97abff0b86203bad7--2015-11-25%2017:16:16.log14:06
pedroalvarezthis log is just tooooooooooooo loooooooooooong14:06
pedroalvarezwarning, it might crash your browser14:07
tiagogomeseek14:07
SotKeek, is that what morph.log looks like now too?14:07
tiagogomesif there is no tty, the progress bar shouldn't be shown14:07
pedroalvarezplease please please :)14:13
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tiagogomespedroalvarez when was the last time that you contributed to morph :)14:18
pedroalvarezlet me git-log14:18
pedroalvarezon my birthday14:19
pedroalvarezI guess it was a birthay present for everyone14:19
tiagogomeshehe14:19
pedroalvarezI also reviewed some Morph patches14:19
pedroalvarez(which is also contributing)14:19
tiagogomesindeed14:19
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gtristanSo this fixes the regression in the gnome-shell crashing on SIGILL: https://gerrit.baserock.org/#/q/topic:fix-llvm-gnome-shell-regression16:16
gtristantiagogomes, regarding that last patch; Revert "Adding the clang compiler"... I am assuming here that clang will not compile with the current version of llvm right ?16:16
gtristanIf it compiles with current llvm, then there is no need to revert the addition of clang16:17
tiagogomesgtristan I haven't tried tbh. When I saw that there was a new release of llvm I chose to update it16:20
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gtristantiagogomes, ok so seeing as it's your patch, lets start by safely backing it out, and let you validate that it still builds and works with currently available llvm right ?16:26
tiagogomesgtristan I am happy with that516:30
tiagogomess/that5/that16:30
* gtristan takes all five of them and saves four for a rainy day :)16:31
VLetrmxgtristan, why do we want to revert all this?16:32
gtristanVLetrmx, if you build master without it, GNOME shell no longer runs16:33
VLetrmxalso shared libs for llvm are not recommended by the project16:33
VLetrmxwhich is why we stopped using them16:33
VLetrmxwhy can't we downgrade llvm and leave the rest?16:33
gtristanFor what it's worth, I tried not reverting the upgrade first16:33
gtristanand instead did the CMake-foo to reenable shared libs and build mesa with the shared libs16:33
gtristanbut still crashes on SIGILL with 4 line unusable stack trace16:34
gtristanof course gnome-shell is using the llvmpipe driver for opengl when in a VM16:34
gtristanclearly it's the upgrade to the new version which causes the regression16:35
VLetrmxso downgrade?16:35
gtristanWhich is what the patch set does, are you suggesting that we should try disabling the shared libs also ?16:35
VLetrmxyour patchset removes clang and also reenables shared libs16:36
gtristanIf clang builds without the new llvm, there is no reason to remove it16:36
gtristanIf gnome-shell does not crash without the shared-libs enabled, it need not be reverted16:37
gtristanHowever I have to ask, after wasting 2 days of my own time in rebuilds bisecting this problem, if I should be the one who has to make these verifications16:37
VLetrmxsorry i'm quite confused, my question is why are you reverting 0f6eb4e0b91132e3eefa9b43b86b80892f323b84 to fix gnome?16:37
VLetrmxi don't see the relation16:37
gtristanwhen in fact it is other contributors who are interested in upgrading llvm, introducing clang and disabling the shared libs.16:37
gtristanWhat SHA1 is that ?16:38
gtristanback down llvm ?16:38
VLetrmxchange https://gerrit.baserock.org/#/c/1521/16:38
gtristanVLetrmx, in this very same irc log, I mentioned that it was my assumption that clang required the new version of llvm to compile16:39
gtristanand if it were not so, then it need not be reverted at all16:39
VLetrmxi see, why do you assume that?16:39
gtristanhowever, tiagogomes cannot vouch for it being buildable against the current llvm16:39
VLetrmxi suggest you downgrade llvm and see whether clang builds16:39
VLetrmxif it doesn't then i guess we have to drop it, or find some other solution16:40
gtristanand here we come full circle16:40
gtristanI have been spending 2 days in rebuilds, yes I can do another one on tiago's behalf, to test his patch and see if it works without the llvm which regressed16:41
VLetrmxawesome, please do :)16:41
gtristanThats not the point16:41
gtristanI can, but should I, on a regular basis16:41
gtristanbe testing and building and consuming all my time, chasing a regression16:42
gtristana simpler way forward is to simply revert it and leave that in the hands of the contributor interested in integrating clang in the first place16:42
gtristanVLetrmx, dont get me wrong, I am mixing up a bit of my proposal on the ML with this IRC discussion16:43
gtristanbut it's important16:43
tiagogomesagain, I am fine that the llvm patch is reverted.16:43
VLetrmxokay i'm not sure imo you're the submitter of this revert, so the burden of proof that we actually need this revert is on you. if other people otoh are happy to revert this then that's also fine by me16:43
gtristanI can volunteer to do it, but it's more productive in the long run to catch this stuff at the door, than to play bisections on definitions16:43
tiagogomesI can re-test clang with an older llvm when I have time16:43
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