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| paulsher1ood | radiofree: iiuc the fact that we don't cross-compile is a limitation imposed by the specific definitions set we are using? | 07:13 |
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| paulsher1ood | i'm thinking of renaming ybd back to brock, or at least standardising on lower-case. typing YBD is a bit of a pain, brock is short enough, probably catchier than ybd. any thoughts? | 07:48 |
| paulsher1ood | will decide before monday since i'm going to tag and call it a first 'release' | 07:49 |
| paulsher1ood | maybe even brok | 07:51 |
| paulsher1ood | (master pet tamer) | 07:51 |
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| rjek | gerald is a good name. | 09:28 |
| paulsher1ood | that's true. is it relevant, though? | 09:54 |
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| radiofree | paulsher1ood: it's a limitation of baserock sadly | 10:56 |
| radiofree | hmm.. what's wrong with the name YBD? Is brock/brok someone from mythology? | 10:57 |
| radiofree | Brock (Pokémon), a character in the fictional world of Pokémon who usually travels with Ash | 10:57 |
| radiofree | Brok <Master Pet Tamer> from world of warcraft | 10:57 |
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| paulsher1ood | radiofree: just that it's an acronym, rather than a name. names are more memorable in my experience | 14:27 |
| paulsher1ood | but given i'm hoping you'll be an advocate/reference user i'm happy to take your input as representative of ybd's target community. unless somone comes forward strongly against ybd, i'll stick with that | 14:29 |
| * paulsher1ood has just spent over an hour trawling genivi internal email threads. by the end, I had to tell them I'm going to unsubscribe from all their private lists at the end of this year. | 14:31 | |
| paulsher1ood | it's great that some discussion is now happening in public, especially the interaction with AGL. I just hope the rest follows now | 14:32 |
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| rjek | paulsher1ood: Relevence doesn't matter. Look at Jenkins :) | 19:59 |
| paulsher1ood | rjek: i meant, was your comment relevant? were you *suggesting* Gerald as a name for ybd? | 20:14 |
| ratmice___ | jjardon: hmm, that gold bug (18200) was fixed, but it looks like the nightly tarball snapshots are not generating (probably since the switch to git i would guess | 20:19 |
| rjek | paulsher1ood: I was suggesting gerald as a name >:) | 20:25 |
| rjek | I sounds like a good name for a minion who goes and does work for you, as any valet or butler. | 20:26 |
| rjek | On the other hand, I have nothing against the name ybd, and it is less typing than brock. | 20:26 |
| rjek | paulsher1ood: btw, did you see http://bazel.io/ ? | 20:26 |
| rjek | It appears to be Baserock, but awful. | 20:26 |
| rjek | s/Baserock/Morph & ybd/ | 20:27 |
| rjek | If you want non-relevant off topic, beer cellar achivement unlocked: http://www.rjek.com/potm.jpeg | 20:29 |
| * ratmice___ notes "plus real cider" | 20:38 | |
| paulsher1ood | rjek: bazel looks interesting. why do you say it's awful? | 20:43 |
| ratmice___ | not sure what that means (real), but if its intended to distinguish to old-fashioned fermentation methods, vs the factory ones its worth having an investigation :) | 20:43 |
| paulsher1ood | rjek: actually, bazel *does* look interesting... it looks like only ~ 100 active effort days (according to git summary), maybe they are onto something | 20:52 |
| paulsher1ood | project : bazel repo age : 3 months active : 100 days commits : 1231 files : 2241 | 20:53 |
| paulsher1ood | but it does have the swiss-army-knife problem, same as morph :) | 20:54 |
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| ratmice___ | paulsher1ood: it has been in use behind googles ramparts for a while, so I doubt that those times reflect | 21:14 |
| rjek | paulsher1ood: I wouldn't trust gitdays on it. | 22:35 |
| rjek | paulsher1ood: As it'll have been "over the wall"; who knows how much development occured before they opened it? | 22:35 |
| rjek | ratmice___: Real cider is raw fermented apple juice, rather than fizzy stuff that is simply apple-flavored. | 22:36 |
| rjek | (in the UK, commonly Strongbow, Blackthorn, Aspel's are the fizzy stuff. The real stuff is normally >6% and looks like a bladder infection. Some people apparently like this.) | 22:37 |
| rjek | paulsher1ood: Bazel looks like it's trying to solve some of the same problems, but is even more complicated for reasons that aren't obvious to me. | 22:39 |
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| paulsher1ood | rjek, ratmice___ : noted. my comment was half-ironical. ybd has a full 125 git-days, and I *know* what went into that. if bazel has genuinely 100, and started a few months ago, they may have learned some things that i'm still working out. | 23:11 |
| paulsher1ood | if this is what google has been learning over the last few years, then i'm less intrigued | 23:12 |
| paulsher1ood | rjek: i like your shortening to gitdays. i'll use that from now on | 23:13 |
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| * paulsher1ood googles 'git active days and chicken' and is *extremely* disappointed that http://www.devcurmudgeon.com/the-worst-metric.html comes EIGHTH.... wtf? :-) | 23:15 | |
| paulsher1ood | so, now a couple of years after that cryptic comment... here's my algorithm: | 23:16 |
| paulsher1ood | engineering effort on project is approximately equal to gitdays on project. | 23:16 |
| paulsher1ood | the chicken entrails are crucial to the calculation, as you can see :-) | 23:18 |
| * paulsher1ood notices he needs to fix some links on dc.com since the switch to pelican | 23:23 | |
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