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| paulsherwood | folks, what's the state of play for the qt systems... last time i tried building them something was up with the lua/enlightment bits... | 10:11 |
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| paulsherwood | has rdale or someone else been looking at qt recently? | 10:11 |
| pedroalvarez | can this be caused by the toolchain upgrade? | 10:13 |
| rdale | not since qt5.3.2 | 10:13 |
| rdale | i can fix the lua problem | 10:13 |
| rdale | but systemd doesn't build with enlightenment at the moment | 10:13 |
| paulsherwood | i can fix the lua problem (in fact i did...http://git.baserock.org/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/baserock/baserock/definitions.git/commit/?h=baserock/ps/tidy-non-uniques&id=80e135d6d6945fea210baad41cd6571d026d8cfa) | 10:15 |
| rdale | ok thanks | 10:15 |
| paulsherwood | we should maybe just drop enlightenment from that example. but i'm mainly interested to know if recent qt itself is building/working | 10:16 |
| pedroalvarez | aha, nothing to do with the toolchain, sorry :) | 10:16 |
| rdale | i would expect qt5.3.2 to build, but not enlightenment | 10:16 |
| tiagogomes_ | jjardon, you are stepping in my toes regarding your last patch series, I was planning to update libtool, m4 and pkg-config as well | 10:18 |
| rdale | paulsherwood: there is a problem with building qtcreator that i should fix | 10:19 |
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| jjardon | tiagogomes_: sorry, I didnt see any public work about that on the mailing list. FWIW my branch is already ready to merge so less work for you ;) | 10:35 |
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| paulsherwood | rdale: please do :-) | 10:46 |
| paulsherwood | jjardon: +1 :-) | 10:48 |
| paulsherwood | now would be a great moment to start using gerrit, so everyone knows what's coming ? | 10:49 |
| Kinnison | I think ssam2 has been working on that | 10:49 |
| robtaylor | did anyone see the wikimedia talk on using phabricator? :) | 10:51 |
| paulsherwood | Kinnison: yup - maybe it just needs instructions on the wiki and 'please send to gerrit, not the ml' broadcast? | 10:52 |
| Kinnison | paulsherwood: I don't know if ssam2 finished yet | 10:52 |
| Kinnison | robtaylor: I'd personally argue strongly against using phabricator because we're not equipped to maintain security of PHP applications | 10:52 |
| pedroalvarez | looks unfinished | 10:52 |
| persia | DNS suggests "testgerrit" exists and "gerrit" doesn't, which makes me also think it isn't finished. | 10:54 |
| pedroalvarez | http://gerrit.baserock.org/ does exist | 10:54 |
| persia | Indeed: we prefer gerrit to phabricator for almost precisely the same reasons mediawiki prefers phabricator to gerrit :) | 10:54 |
| persia | pedroalvarez: Good catch. I need to test more frequently :) No registered projects yet, though. | 10:55 |
| paulsherwood | can we start using it? what does it take to change our default way of working at this point? | 10:55 |
| pedroalvarez | I think that ssam2 wanted it host all the baserock/* projects (repos) and make it push to git.baserock.org when a merge happens | 10:56 |
| pedroalvarez | I can be wrong, so I'll let him explain it | 10:57 |
| ssam2 | gerrit is not finished | 10:58 |
| ssam2 | i'm currently looking at some bugs in distbuild instead of looking integrating gerrit.baserock.org with trove.baserock.org, but once that is done I will be back to looking at gerrit | 10:58 |
| franred | who has supercow powers to remove http://git.baserock.org/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/delta/python-packages/psycopg2.git/ and stop its lorry minion to fix it and pointed to a correct repository? (see the mailing list for more info) | 10:58 |
| ssam2 | franred: you... | 10:59 |
| franred | :P - short notice | 10:59 |
| tiagogomes_ | Hi, is it possible to have a VM hosted at Datacentred? | 11:31 |
| pedroalvarez | tiagogomes_: what for? | 11:31 |
| Kinnison | pedroalvarez: ^^ this is to speed up tiago's work on the Moonshot | 11:31 |
| Kinnison | pedroalvarez: currently it costs him 1h of productivity every time he has to upload a bootstrap tarball | 11:31 |
| pedroalvarez | ok, makes sense to me. I;ll spin up a devel vm for him. Anyone disagree? ssam2 franred ? | 11:34 |
| Kinnison | Thanks pedroalvarez | 11:35 |
| paulsherwood | +1 from me | 11:35 |
| Kinnison | thanks paulsherwood | 11:35 |
| ssam2 | go for it | 11:37 |
| pedroalvarez | tiagogomes_: 2cpu 4Gram and 80G disk? | 11:37 |
| tiagogomes_ | pedroalvarez, 4 cpus, 8G ram would be better :) | 11:39 |
| pedroalvarez | on it | 11:41 |
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| pedroalvarez | tiagogomes_: please, msg me your public ssh key | 11:48 |
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| richard_maw | https://asciinema.org/a/16031 may be of interest to people here who haven't already seen it :-) | 12:05 |
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| rjek | Do the reference system morphs for Baserock always include GCC? | 14:16 |
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| richard_maw | The "minimal" systems shouldn't | 14:16 |
| rdale | i can't compile qt5 qtbase because xcb is missing from a stratum that used to have it, which qtbase depended on. are we supposed to be giving up with x11 support, or should the x11 stuff that used to be there be maintained and only removed when there are no dependencies in higher level strata in the baserock master defintions repo? | 14:22 |
| ssam2 | jjardon: ^^ | 14:23 |
| persia | I'd like to keep X11 support if we can. | 14:30 |
| ssam2 | it's easy enough to revert the patch that removed X11 support. I don't have an opinion either way. | 14:31 |
| ssam2 | persia, rdale: jjardon's idea I think was that we can use Xwayland for things that still need X11. how do you feel about that? | 14:32 |
| persia | I mostly only care about two things: 1) client support, and 2) network-transparency in terms of running clients on other hosts that display on my local environment. | 14:33 |
| persia | The other stuff I don't use as much. | 14:33 |
| rdale | i don't know much about xwayland, and so i don't know what using it with qt5 involves. there is an option to build qt5 with its own xcb support, but maybe that wouldn't work if you wanted to build enlightenment to use with qt5 under x11 | 14:36 |
| ssam2 | I think for Qt5 you wouldn't need Xwayland | 14:37 |
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| ssam2 | you'd just build Qt5 with its wayland backend enabled and its X11 backend disabled | 14:38 |
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| ssam2 | I think Xwayland is to run apps that still need X11 under a Wayland compositor | 14:38 |
| persia | My worry there is that I can't necessarily link something against Qt and run it remote via X. I might be wrong about this (and hope I am). | 14:38 |
| rdale | i think qt5 mostly works with wayland, but i don't the webkit does. and webkit is being superceeded in qt5.4, and i don't think blink works with wayland yet either | 14:40 |
| rdale | i don't know what the target audience for qt5 is really | 14:42 |
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| ssam2 | persia: I'd imagine that you'd need to use a lower-level protocol to forward your connection at that point. Something like VNC or SPICE. I really don't know what I'm talking about though at this point :) | 14:51 |
| ssam2 | s/at that point/if Qt5 was built with only its Wayland backend/ | 14:51 |
| jjardon | rdale: is not qtwayland ready yet? there are instructions to compile Qt on wayland here: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/qt5.html | 14:56 |
| jjardon | but I think xcb should not have been removed, let me check | 14:56 |
| rdale | yes, qt wayland works well especially in qt5.4, but i'm not so sure about the chromium and webkit based browser libraries | 14:57 |
| jjardon | rdale: so what is exactly the component that its currently failing? | 14:58 |
| rdale | the error that terminated the qt5 qtbase config was this one: fatal error: xcb/xcb_icccm.h: No such file or directory | 14:58 |
| jjardon | yeah, seems qt5 depends on xcb-util, will send a patch shortly | 15:04 |
| rdale | ok thanks | 15:05 |
| jjardon | (sorry, I though it was a utilility, not a library when I removed it) | 15:05 |
| persia | ssam2: That's precisely what I want to avoid. With X bindings, I can easily tunnel stuff with ssh's X support. | 15:05 |
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| jjardon | rdale: you have a patch in baserock/jjardon/xcb-util , mind to check if that fixes the problem for you? | 15:11 |
| rdale | ok, i'll try that | 15:12 |
| jjardon | persia: modern X is not network transparent: DRI, for example, is not network transparent | 15:13 |
| persia | jjardon: Yes, but there are *lots* of programs that don't use DRI :) | 15:13 |
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| radiofree | what is a "subsystem" in a cluster? | 15:21 |
| Kinnison | allows for deploying one system inside another | 15:22 |
| Kinnison | e.g. for sysroots, initramfsen etc | 15:22 |
| radiofree | ah, ok | 15:23 |
| rdale | jjardon: it looks like xcb-util has git submodules: You have uninitialized git submodules. | 15:27 |
| jjardon | rdale: oh, true. One minute | 15:29 |
| jjardon | rdale: can you try again? | 15:32 |
| rdale | ok | 15:32 |
| jjardon | rdale: Ive just push another fix | 15:38 |
| rdale | oh ok | 15:38 |
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| jjardon | rdale: it compiles fine here now | 15:51 |
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| franred | ssam2, Im creating the lorry file for apache to add httpd, apr and apr-util, should I called apache-projects.lorry or just apache.lorry ? | 15:54 |
| ssam2 | apache.lorry makes sense | 15:55 |
| ssam2 | or apache-projects.lorry | 15:55 |
| ssam2 | i don't know. I guess the 2nd so we know it's not just for httpd | 15:55 |
| ssam2 | so apache-projects | 15:55 |
| persia | I like "apache-httpd" or some such. | 15:55 |
| persia | Apache has become really huge: they do Zookeeper, for example. | 15:55 |
| ssam2 | exactly. So apache-projects.lorry | 15:56 |
| ssam2 | which (ignoring the fact that Zookeeper is probably already lorried elsewhere) could reasonably contain Zookeeper as well as httpd | 15:56 |
| persia | https://projects.apache.org/indexes/quick.html | 15:56 |
| pedroalvarez | franred: then apr-util is 100% needed? | 15:56 |
| franred | pedroalvarez, to compile httpd for sure | 15:56 |
| pedroalvarez | but, apr-util repo is empty nowadays | 15:57 |
| franred | it is not | 15:57 |
| pedroalvarez | franred: try to clone git://git.apache.org/apr-util.git | 15:58 |
| pedroalvarez | and check its contents | 15:58 |
| franred | http://paste.baserock.org/fewoxuyuze | 15:58 |
| pedroalvarez | franred: and check its contents please | 15:58 |
| franred | pedroalvarez, oh, I see | 15:59 |
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| franred | pedroalvarez, ok, no apr-utils | 16:00 |
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| pedroalvarez | franred: I just asked if it was needed. It might be, I don't know | 16:01 |
| franred | pedroalvarez, I will need to compile httpd once again from scratch to know | 16:02 |
| rdale | jjardon: xcb-util has built for me too from your branch | 16:03 |
| pedroalvarez | franred: ok, I just don't like the idea of lorrying an already-deprecated repo | 16:04 |
| franred | pedroalvarez, agreed, sorry for the noise - I need to test the new repo before create the patch in any case | 16:05 |
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| jjardon | rdale: great! can I have a +1 to the patch I sent to the mailing list then? ;) | 16:07 |
| rdale | yes ok | 16:07 |
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| radiofree | upgrading from a rawdisk image file works! | 16:11 |
| radiofree | although i forgot to change the cleanup code so it wiped the contents of the image file... | 16:12 |
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| rdale | jjardon: i'm still getting the same error in the qtbase config: xcb/xcb_icccm.h: No such file or directory | 16:25 |
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| bashrc | I know this is a classic, but does anyone know what "Only chunks built in 'bootstrap' mode can be cross-compiled" means? | 16:28 |
| radiofree | bashrc: the arch in your systems morph doesn't match the arch you're building on? | 16:31 |
| bashrc | ok | 16:31 |
| jjardon | rdale: ah, what you need is xcb/util-wm, let me prepare another patch. will check and report back | 16:35 |
| rdale | ok - i assume i added these chunks in the first place to build qt5 | 16:36 |
| pedroalvarez | oh, just remembered that last thursday I tried an upgrade to systemd 218. Gitano doesn't look happy with it :/ | 16:38 |
| Kinnison | pedroalvarez: Oh? | 16:38 |
| Kinnison | pedroalvarez: did you talk with Gitano upstream? | 16:38 |
| pedroalvarez | I was going to after verifying that it wasn't a baserock-related problem | 16:39 |
| * persia thinks that asking usptream first is often the best strategy | 16:39 | |
| Kinnison | pedroalvarez: do you have a log of the failure mode? | 16:40 |
| * pedroalvarez moves the discussion to #gitano | 16:41 | |
| jjardon | rdale: what system are you using to test this? qt5-devel-system-x86_64-generic doesnt compile: "chunk efl references its dependency luajit2 before it is defined" | 16:49 |
| pedroalvarez | given that is not #gitano related, I'll post the error here too: http://paste.baserock.org/ezusuqezeg | 16:49 |
| Kinnison | what does the system think its hostname is? | 16:50 |
| richard_maw | nss-myhostname comes from systemd | 16:50 |
| Kinnison | And does it have a loopback interface working? | 16:50 |
| richard_maw | see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87634 | 16:52 |
| richard_maw | fixed in commit 3fdcecc87eb381ef300719e419d5863dd8a64a97 | 16:53 |
| pedroalvarez | there is a 'lo' interface, localhost resolves | 16:53 |
| pedroalvarez | great | 16:53 |
| pedroalvarez | although I was upgrading to fix a bug, and I found another bigger :/ | 16:53 |
| pedroalvarez | richard_maw: thanks for helping :) | 16:54 |
| richard_maw | pedroalvarez: no problem, I'm currently digging through systemd's codebase anyway | 16:54 |
| jjardon | rdale: seems 604ce30fd8f0a40164ede05c5fb365fa382387d5 broke the enlightenment strata | 16:54 |
| pedroalvarez | Kinnison: thank you too :) | 16:55 |
| Kinnison | :) | 16:56 |
| rdale | jjardon: yes the i moved the luajit chunk to the lua morph but forgot to remove the chunk from the enlightenment stratum. but the systemd pkgconfig change is harder to fix | 17:06 |
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| tiagogomes_ | ssam2, any change in speeding up file and lzo lorrying :) ? | 17:30 |
| ssam2 | you'd like me to promote those two jobs? I can do that | 17:30 |
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| ssam2 | i promoted delta/file and delta/lzo | 17:32 |
| tiagogomes_ | ssam2 ta! | 17:33 |
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| ssam2 | tiagogomes_: your baserock/tiagogomes/armv8 caused ./check to fail in morph | 17:38 |
| ssam2 | I've fixed it, but please be sure to run './check' before merging branches in future | 17:39 |
| tiagogomes_ | ssam2 noted. | 17:39 |
| tiagogomes_ | ah, copyright years | 17:41 |
| ssam2 | coverage as well | 17:43 |
| jjardon | rdale: configuration phase of qtbase passed with the patches I sent to the list. Building for more than 40 min now (any idea how much normally takes?) | 17:46 |
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| rdale | quite a long time - several hours and qtwebkit takes forever | 17:51 |
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| rdale | jjardon: i don't understand why it doesn't build for me if it builds for you. doesn't in need an xcb-icccm chunk? | 18:05 |
| jjardon | rdale: I sent new patches | 18:06 |
| rdale | ah ok | 18:06 |
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