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| richard_maw | sorry straycat, no inline chunks yet | 09:53 |
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| * pedroalvarez_ uses virt-manager to spin up a VM in baserock | 09:58 | |
| Kinnison | pedroalvarez_: woot | 09:59 |
| pedroalvarez_ | only thing needed was openbsd-netcat | 09:59 |
| persia | No changes to morph? | 09:59 |
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| pedroalvarez | so I have a PC with the virtualization.morph stratum, and I connected to it with virt-manager to setup a VM | 10:01 |
| pedroalvarez | no, no changes to morph nor to definitions, since I installed `nc` manually just for tetsting | 10:01 |
| Kinnison | pedroalvarez: I take it the issue is that busybox's netcat isn't openbsd cmdline compatible? | 10:03 |
| persia | Ah, so baserock delivering a tested-working libvirt-based hypervisor, rather than baserock deploying to a libvirt-based target. Apologies for my confusion. | 10:03 |
| pedroalvarez | Kinnison: virt-manager needs a netcat version with the '-U' option available | 10:04 |
| Kinnison | aah | 10:04 |
| pedroalvarez | -U: Use UNIX domain socket | 10:04 |
| Kinnison | nod. | 10:04 |
| * Kinnison prefers openbsd-netcat anyway, so perhaps we could make that default | 10:05 | |
| pedroalvarez | Kinnison: I found difficult to find the source, and I just installed a fork of it. Would you help me to find the right one? | 10:06 |
| Kinnison | I'd start from whatever Debian has | 10:06 |
| pedroalvarez | Debian has a fork of the openbsd one | 10:06 |
| Kinnison | aah | 10:07 |
| pedroalvarez | wait, this was more hecky than I normally do. I Copied the `nc` binary from my Debian OS. :) | 10:09 |
| pedroalvarez | s/hecky/hacky/ | 10:09 |
| Kinnison | heh | 10:09 |
| persia | debinject was writted specifically to avoid the need to do that | 10:09 |
| persia | s/writted/written/ | 10:09 |
| pedroalvarez | I think this is the one: http://openbsd-netcat.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ | 10:12 |
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| Kinnison | You might find http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/netcat-openbsd.git of use | 10:13 |
| pedroalvarez | \o/.git! Thanks | 10:15 |
| Kinnison | TTOTD, apt-cache showsrc blahblah | grep Vcs | 10:16 |
| Kinnison | a handy way to find stuff | 10:16 |
| Kinnison | Not always immediately obvious how to get thence to upstream, but it's a good starting point | 10:16 |
| pedroalvarez | I see. | 10:17 |
| pedroalvarez | I only know how to do those things in baserock :) | 10:17 |
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| persia | debian/copyright in that repo claims http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/nc/ as upstream | 10:21 |
| Kinnison | Mmm, but the patches in the debian repo look useful | 10:21 |
| persia | Yes, but they aren't commits, so need a fork repo to be consumed by morph | 10:21 |
| Kinnison | aye, tis awkward | 10:22 |
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| grahamfinney | Hi, doing the initial Baserock quick start I hit a barrier. I have detailed it at http://paste.baserock.org/sawihojofi. Any ideas? | 11:48 |
| paulsherwood | where did the <grahamfinney> problem with: morph init workspace -> /use/bin/morph: line 3: permission denied | 11:50 |
| paulsherwood | typo come from? | 11:50 |
| persia | grahamfinney: Is this with use-latest-morph? | 11:50 |
| tiagogomes_ | `chmod +x /use/bin/morph` ? | 11:51 |
| persia | The problem is "use", should be "usr", not an actual permission issue. | 11:52 |
| persia | I think a symlink or path is broken somewhere | 11:52 |
| persia | grahamfinney: Just to check, what does `which morph` return/ | 11:55 |
| persia | s:/:?: | 11:55 |
| grahamfinney | I uses /usr/bin/morph | 11:57 |
| radiofree | paulsherwood: what's the output of 'cat /usr/bin/morph' | 11:57 |
| persia | How about `ls -l /usr/bin/morph`? | 11:57 |
| radiofree | persia: i think /usr/bin/morph is a script rather than a direct symlink? | 11:58 |
| radiofree | unless the instructions have changed | 11:58 |
| radiofree | sorry, grahamfinney, what's the output of 'cat /usr/bin/morph' | 11:58 |
| grahamfinney | persia: latest morph? I think so, I just pulled it down | 11:59 |
| straycat | it's a script that appends /src/morph to the $PYTHONPATH and runs /src/morph/morph | 11:59 |
| persia | grahamfinney: BY "pulled down", do you mean "downloaded the build system"? | 12:00 |
| radiofree | it sounds like there's a problem inside the /usr/bin/morph script | 12:00 |
| persia | grahamfinney: I wanted to confirm you were not doing http://wiki.baserock.org/using-latest-morph/ | 12:00 |
| SotK | grahamfinney: what happens if you do `export PYTHONPATH="$PYTHONPATH:/src/morph"; /src/morph/morph init workspace`? | 12:00 |
| grahamfinney | persia: cat /usr/bin/morph -> PYTHONPATH="$morphpath" "$morph" "$@" | 12:02 |
| persia | grahamfinney: Check the values of those variables in your environment | 12:03 |
| radiofree | grahamfinney: that looks wrong | 12:03 |
| grahamfinney | No I downloaded the binary | 12:03 |
| persia | What binary? | 12:03 |
| radiofree | grahamfinney: http://wiki.baserock.org/using-latest-morph/ | 12:03 |
| persia | Except don't do that unless you are hacking morph: for most folk, it's better to just upgrade morph in the development system | 12:04 |
| radiofree | grahamfinney: if that's all that's in your /usr/bin/morph file, you're not setting "$morphpath" | 12:04 |
| grahamfinney | I doanloaded the binary pointed to by the quick start tut | 12:05 |
| radiofree | edit /usr/bin/morph and add "morphpath=/src/morph" above the PYTHONPATH=... line | 12:05 |
| grahamfinney | I'll give that a go radiofree | 12:05 |
| persia | grahamfinney: http://wiki.baserock.org/guides/vm-setup/#index2h2 ? | 12:06 |
| grahamfinney | I can't keep up with the flood...... | 12:06 |
| grahamfinney | that's alde | 12:07 |
| grahamfinney | that's already in there radiofree | 12:08 |
| radiofree | are you sure you git cloned morph into /src/morph? | 12:09 |
| grahamfinney | i.e. morphpath is set | 12:09 |
| * persia continues to believe that putting morph in /src/morph is generally to be avoided | 12:09 | |
| grahamfinney | not sure at all radiofree. I'll look over it ... | 12:10 |
| radiofree | persia: why? | 12:11 |
| persia | radiofree: Because 1) there are better ways to install/upgrade software in devel systems, and 2) it increases the potential to cause issues working only in /src to run software from /src | 12:12 |
| persia | Obviously, if folk are hacking morph, it is critical to be able to use /src/morph, but I think most end users should not be doing that. | 12:12 |
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| straycat | tbf, the wiki does say "If you want to use 'bleeding edge morph'" I was hoping the term "bleeding edge" might suggest most users don't want this | 12:22 |
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| persia | straycat: I think it should. The bits that worry me are 1) the presence of "use" instead of "usr" somewhere: I'd like to understand where that comes from, and 2) telling folk to set /src/morph for morphpath before we understand the current values. | 12:25 |
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| straycat | persia, i'll update the wiki to make the clearer then | 12:32 |
| persia | If you think it is necessary. I think that new readers of the old text will not try it without prompting, and that folk who have been using /src/morph for a long time will continue to recommend it if not reminded (but are unlikely to read the relevant page). | 12:33 |
| tiagogomes_ | I didn't find any "use/" on the documentation. I don't think that the instructions for using the last morph should be on "Using Baserock", they could be moved to Guides perhaps | 12:34 |
| grahamfinney | Turns out the problem is that PYTHONPATH wasn't quite right. it was set to "$morphpath" "$morph" "$@", but "$morph" should have been "$morphpath/morph". Thanks ripsum. | 12:38 |
| persia | tiagogomes_: Moving it sounds sane. | 12:38 |
| persia | I think the "use" is a typo somewhere, but I don't know where. | 12:38 |
| persia | From the investigation so far, I suspect the environment variables that morph is consuming. | 12:38 |
| persia | But it worries me that "/src/morph" was already in /usr/bin/morph | 12:39 |
| tiagogomes_ | persia, I am pretty sure that it doesn't come configured to look at /src/morph from factory | 12:40 |
| persia | tiagogomes_: That's why I'm worried. I think grahamfinney's environment differs from default in odd ways, and want to understand how so it can be repaired. | 12:41 |
| * SotK assumed that "use/" was a typo in the original error description on friday since it wasn't in the pastebin that grahamfinney sent today, but could be wrong. | 12:46 | |
| persia | That would be a sensible explanation. grahamfinney ^^ ? | 12:47 |
| grahamfinney | I appeared made an error in copying over the commands (from "Using the latest version of morph") | 13:23 |
| persia | I'd start again, as it probably will be easier than untangling that. | 13:24 |
| persia | And not go through "Using the latest version of morph" next time, unless you really need to hack on morph. | 13:24 |
| persia | If you do need to hack on morph, then troubleshooting your current installation will probably be educational in a way that assists your hacking on morph. | 13:25 |
| grahamfinney | I don't recall if I did that, but I remmeber having a loook at it, so I may have, | 13:26 |
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| jjardon | Hi, anyone knows how big is the minimal baserock system? | 16:05 |
| ssam2 | a few hundred MB | 16:05 |
| rjek | ISTR ~150MB, but this number is out of date | 16:05 |
| pedroalvarez | jjardon: is a bit big right now, but there was a patch to strip more the gcc chunk | 16:06 |
| pedroalvarez | making it smaller than 30M (I believe) | 16:06 |
| jjardon | oh, thats nice, thanks! | 16:07 |
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| mauricemoss_ | I can't make libstdc++ available to stage2-gcc when cross-bootstrapping for mips64 http://paste.baserock.org/iyuqaxovor does anyone have an idea how to solve this? | 16:38 |
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| tiagogomes | mauricemoss_ where that came from? /src/moph.log? I never saw exceptions on build failures | 17:06 |
| mauricemoss_ | tiagogomes, yep that's from morph.log | 17:07 |
| tiagogomes | mauricemoss_, where is libstdc++ installed? | 17:07 |
| mauricemoss_ | I found it in ../tools/lib32/libstdc++.a | 17:10 |
| mauricemoss_ | actually that makes me wondering, what gcc excpects for mips64. probably not /lib32 | 17:11 |
| tiagogomes | argh, it should go to /tools/lib | 17:12 |
| mauricemoss_ | let me check.. | 17:13 |
| tiagogomes | what `./tools/bin/mips-baserock-linux-gnu-ld --verbose | grep SEARCH` shows, if executed from the failed staging area | 17:13 |
| tiagogomes | I don't expect that the executable name is named `./tools/bin/mips-baserock-linux-gnu-ld` exactly | 17:13 |
| mauricemoss_ | SEARCH_DIR("=/tools/mips64-bootstrap-linux-gnu/lib32"); SEARCH_DIR("=/tools/lib"); SEARCH_DIR("=/tools/lib64"); SEARCH_DIR("=/tools/mips64-bootstrap-linux-gnu/lib"); | 17:15 |
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| mauricemoss_ | oh I forget to mention I'm not using your v2 branch yet, because I figured out there was no change in this area. | 17:16 |
| tiagogomes | mauricemoss_ there you go, /tools/lib32 is not on the ld path | 17:16 |
| tiagogomes | mauricemoss_, did you pass --with-lib=/tools/lib to gcc configure's script? | 17:17 |
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| mauricemoss_ | I didn't, will add it :) | 17:20 |
| tiagogomes | mauricemoss_, unfortunately, I don't think that is going to do any difference, gcc seems to ignore that flag. | 17:21 |
| * ssam2 starts a build of a system based off latest master and watches freshly built artifacts get downloaded from cache.baserock.org | 17:21 | |
| ssam2 | the system works! | 17:22 |
| tiagogomes | ssam2, I just realized that I forgot to update the unpetrify-refs, I'm cooking a patch | 17:22 |
| ssam2 | cool | 17:25 |
| ssam2 | doh, it's got to stage2-gcc and started building | 17:25 |
| ssam2 | I guess my laptop caught up with mason-x86-64.baserock.org :) | 17:26 |
| mauricemoss_ | tiagogomes, if gcc is ignoring the flag, how can I make the libstdc++ know to gcc? | 17:27 |
| ssam2 | it might help to look at the configure script to see why gcc is ignoring the flag | 17:30 |
| tiagogomes | mauricemoss_, did you disabled multilib as well? | 17:30 |
| mauricemoss_ | I did. | 17:30 |
| ssam2 | running 'grep '/tools/lib32' *' in a failed staging area might give you some useful info | 17:30 |
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| straycat | ahh, i think some of the requirement processing must have changed between the setuptools version we're using in baserock and current, cause i get different dependencies for python-glanceclient | 18:16 |
| straycat | 12.0.5 was released pretty recently, we could probably move to that and our delta against setuptools would reduce to one line | 18:18 |
| persia | Upgrades that reduce delta are good. | 18:22 |
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| straycat | yeah sadly that's not actually the problem here >.> | 18:27 |
| pedroalvarez | I wonder if cross-bootstrap is broken in general or only for the new architecture that mauricemoss_ is trying to use | 18:35 |
| persia | pedroalvarez: Do you still have ppc64 hardware? Maybe run a test there? | 18:52 |
| pedroalvarez | I'll make a note to do it. | 18:53 |
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