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| paulsherwood | we should update bash... anyone have a view on whether to go for master, or something else? | 12:18 |
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| rjek | If they've not made a new release, I would go for back-porting the patch to fix to whatever is the latest version. | 13:03 |
| rjek | (latest release version) | 13:03 |
| paulsherwood | rjek: i'm not a fan of backporting myself. official current release seems to be 4.3 | 13:05 |
| paulsherwood | i've built with master and am testing that | 13:06 |
| * paulsherwood notices in passing `time /src/cycle.sh` outputs real1192h 5m 38s | 13:07 | |
| pedroalvarez | 1192 hours??: | 13:08 |
| paulsherwood | yup | 13:08 |
| paulsherwood | seems unlikely - only 2 mins passed in my corner of the multiverse :) | 13:08 |
| pedroalvarez | are you running baserock in the same dimension as me? | 13:09 |
| pedroalvarez | :) | 13:09 |
| dutch_ | how fast are you travelling relative to the shell? | 13:09 |
| * pedroalvarez wants to build Android with baserock | 13:09 | |
| * paulsherwood too | 13:09 | |
| paulsherwood | today? :) | 13:09 |
| pedroalvarez | i think the xda community will be very interested | 13:10 |
| paulsherwood | dutch_: very good question | 13:10 |
| paulsherwood | pedroalvarez: i assume you mean the baserock way, not just a hack? | 13:10 |
| dutch_ | pedroalvarez: from the Q&A this morning it seems very relevant to peoples interests | 13:10 |
| paulsherwood | where are you guys? | 13:11 |
| violeta | at xda devcon :-) | 13:11 |
| paulsherwood | aha | 13:11 |
| pedroalvarez | paulsherwood: yeah, baserock way | 13:11 |
| * paulsherwood is in sunny codethink | 13:11 | |
| paulsherwood | do all our builds use busybox shell, or are there some things that actively engage with bash? | 13:12 |
| * paulsherwood seems to be happily using master bash in baserock | 13:13 | |
| pedroalvarez | paulsherwood: did the mariadb trick worked? | 13:14 |
| paulsherwood | pedroalvarez: seems to, yes. i've built it, am going to try it in a while | 13:15 |
| pedroalvarez | great! | 13:15 |
| paulsherwood | pedroalvarez: i'd like to add mariadb to databases stratum, rather than havign its own system/stratumn | 13:15 |
| rjek | paulsherwood: Yes, but master may not be of release quality :) | 13:15 |
| pedroalvarez | yeah, I didn't want to build postgresql when I did it | 13:16 |
| paulsherwood | well neither is the latest release, as of this week, rjek :) | 13:16 |
| pedroalvarez | don't know if they should be in the same stratum, thogh | 13:16 |
| rjek | If they've not made a release with the fix, I'd certainly backport the fix to the latest release. | 13:16 |
| rjek | master everywhere terrifies me :) | 13:16 |
| pedroalvarez | btw, mariadb installation is 500M | 13:16 |
| pedroalvarez | ish | 13:16 |
| rjek | pedroalvarez: ! | 13:16 |
| paulsherwood | pedroalvarez: the databases stratum is already just a collection of databases. if someone wants a specific database my thought is they'd take it from there | 13:17 |
| paulsherwood | i can be wrong, of course | 13:17 |
| rjek | It's been known. | 13:17 |
| * rjek hides. | 13:17 | |
| rjek | I can see situations where you'd want more than one DB installed. I can't think of a situation where you'd want them /all/ installed :) | 13:18 |
| paulsherwood | agreed | 13:18 |
| rjek | for example, on Pepperfish we have both PostgreSQL and MySQL installed. PostgreSQL for the real work, and MySQL for the couple of apps written by people without taste. | 13:18 |
| rjek | ;) | 13:19 |
| paulsherwood | but in our current design we have systems/strata/chunks. what's the point of having a stratum for maria containing only the maria chunk? | 13:19 |
| rjek | Not a lot, AFAICT. | 13:19 |
| rjek | The stratum might contain the admin tools and such, seperate from the DB itself? | 13:19 |
| paulsherwood | agreed. hence... here's databases.morph with some databases in it. feel free to scrap the ones you don't care about | 13:20 |
| paulsherwood | rjek: you may be right | 13:20 |
| rjek | Debian splits MySQL into -client -common -server and -docs sub-packages. | 13:20 |
| rjek | A worker in a cluster won't be needed docs and clients. | 13:20 |
| rjek | Front end or developer VM probably will. | 13:21 |
| rjek | Hmm; wouldn't somebody create a stratum /for their app/ which would include the database they wanted? | 13:21 |
| * rjek can't quite see the value in a databases.morph stratum | 13:22 | |
| paulsherwood | yes, they would | 13:22 |
| paulsherwood | the main value is that it has a set of known buildable database definitions in it | 13:22 |
| rjek | It would be like having a webservers.morph that gave you Apache, lighty, nginx... | 13:22 |
| rjek | Hmm; as a reference of what you can pick-and-mix, rather than something you'd actually use or include? | 13:23 |
| paulsherwood | yes. and although you think that's weird, i believe that may be the best approach for us | 13:23 |
| paulsherwood | rjek: yes | 13:23 |
| rjek | I'd rather see some sort of catalogue of googies you can cherry-pick, otherwise you know people are going to end up including databases.morph just for SQLite. | 13:23 |
| paulsherwood | i've not persuaded folks to change the organisation of definitions yet, but i think there's some agreement that we have 'infrastructure' and 'examples' | 13:24 |
| rjek | doogies | 13:24 |
| rjek | goodies | 13:24 |
| * rjek 's typing is awful today. | 13:24 | |
| paulsherwood | databases.morph contains some examples | 13:24 |
| * rjek still aches. | 13:24 | |
| rjek | Perhaps we could have a morph kind "examples" that causes morph to emit a warning that it's not really meant to be included in a system wholesale. | 13:24 |
| paulsherwood | as does webtools.morph | 13:24 |
| pedroalvarez | databases.morph for now seems ok to me | 13:25 |
| paulsherwood | rjek: interesting idea. but i'm generally against most of the situations where morph says 'not for you' | 13:25 |
| ratmice_______ | paulsherwood: wow bash master, wasn't aware that bash had joined the world of version controlled software finally | 13:25 |
| rjek | Housework beckons. | 13:26 |
| paulsherwood | ratmice_______: maybe only on git.baserock.org :) | 13:26 |
| paulsherwood | ratmice_______: that's a very long tail you have there... | 13:26 |
| ratmice_______ | no, there apparently is one on savannah | 13:26 |
| pedroalvarez | is a rat :) | 13:26 |
| ratmice_______ | yeah, i'm waiting until it wraps around to _________r or something, wonder how long the maximum nickname length is :D | 13:27 |
| * paulsherwood is looking at http://git.baserock.org/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/delta/bash.git/commit/?id=836a17be08ee0696b89367ab1aa27d0be87169ed | 13:27 | |
| paulsherwood | which claims to be Bash-4.3 patch 26 | 13:27 |
| paulsherwood | so actually, i'm tempted to say, it should satisfy rjek | 13:28 |
| paulsherwood | since that looks like an official release kind of commit to me | 13:28 |
| ratmice_______ | well, the one i'd found was http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/bash.git/tree/ | 13:28 |
| pedroalvarez | ooi, we lorry bash from git://git.savannah.gnu.org/bash.git | 13:28 |
| ratmice_______ | it was there last time i looked for it apparently, but i'd missed it somehow | 13:29 |
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| * paulsherwood sees that `bash --version` reports GNU bash, version 4.3.26(1)-release (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) | 13:32 | |
| paulsherwood | so i think that's a release | 13:33 |
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| * paulsherwood wonders why his jetson gets bounced by gbo these days.... | 14:31 | |
| paulsherwood | probably down to my choice of network | 14:31 |
| paulsherwood | http://fpaste.org/136996/ | 14:33 |
| paulsherwood | it claims 'network unreachable' but i can ping g.b.o from the jetson | 14:33 |
| pedroalvarez | I believe that the ip of gbo is not 10.24.2.161 | 14:43 |
| pedroalvarez | Something odd is happening, but I think you are not connecting to gbo | 14:44 |
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| paulsherwood | yup... something to do with office network | 16:25 |
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