IRC logs for #trustable for Monday, 2017-02-06

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paulsherwood"" there is a... reality gap between the formal verification people, who tend to be hard-core mathematicians, and the grimy, bitter husks of human beings (such as you and me) that do automotive software. "09:48
persiaSadly true.  The former say things like "Side-effects are not supported in these languages for reasons of logical consistency. Though some previous work, including our own, suggests how to lift this constraint, the proof obligations from these approaches make programming very hard.", which is not usually conducive to solving real-world problems.09:59
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