13:08:08 #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting 13:08:08 Meeting started Thu Feb 3 13:08:08 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:08:08 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:08:08 The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' 13:08:15 here we go 13:08:23 found the magic spell 13:08:43 who is around? 13:09:08 o/ 13:09:11 hi 13:09:14 hi 13:09:15 Hi 13:09:18 jki: https://gist.github.com/aliceinwire/2e6320fe4cd12a128102ce6ee3d3724d 13:09:23 Hi 13:10:05 alicef: I have this as well, but when you are in hectic... ;) 13:10:05 there is also patersonc but looks he have problems with matrix/element 13:10:10 hi 13:10:15 Joining from another client now 13:10:39 missing pavel 13:10:46 but given that we are late already... 13:10:57 #topic AI review 13:11:15 1. Request private KernelCI branches for CIP maintainers - patersonc 13:11:22 any news on this PR? 13:11:28 Finally made the initial PR 13:11:29 https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-core/pull/1022 13:11:34 Sorry for the delay 13:12:28 alicef: you will review this? 13:12:41 yes 13:13:02 anything else missing for a merge? 13:13:06 I have already reviewed with patersonc in private 13:14:33 the discussion was about enabling rc to be tested for each commit and not only tags 13:15:07 I don't think the PR is completely satisfy the issue request but is a good starting point 13:15:49 Any push to the *-rc branches will be run in KernelCI 13:16:14 Just maybe not instantly 13:16:45 oh nice you could confirm that? 13:17:40 not until it's merged, or manually triggered in staging 13:18:25 ok thanks 13:19:03 I have no other objections 13:19:08 as now 13:20:19 ok - so alicef will ack, and then someone else still needs to merge it, right? 13:20:28 using cip_variants as I said looks good for me 13:21:02 ack, staging test and merge 13:21:19 great 13:21:30 next topic? 13:21:38 we need also gtucker ack 13:21:51 yes next topic 13:22:02 2. Make TSC motion regarding linux-4.4.y branch by CIP - jan 13:22:09 this has been sent 13:22:40 was the wording ok for all? 13:23:11 I think for the v4.4.y branch (non-cip) we should say we'll follow the current stable rules, not CIP's rules 13:24:36 That mean that we do not accept backports about features? 13:24:45 yes, regarding what CIP would additionally accept 13:24:51 that goes into cip only 13:25:24 but what we do not accept - because of out of scope - will also not go into 4.4.y 13:25:38 that was my idea behind referring to CIP rules 13:25:39 v4.4.y = bug/security fixes (like current LTS). v4.4.y-cip = v4.4.y + feature backports (current SLTS rules) 13:25:50 Gotcha 13:26:04 I understood. 13:26:13 Agree that v4.4.y should be CIP scope only, just follow LTS rules 13:26:39 we likely need to craft the announcement email carefully in this regard 13:26:49 if someone send a pull request for out the cip scope will not be accepted? 13:27:02 I'm understanding correctly? 13:27:45 at least we do not commit on accepting that - I would leave us the freedom to do so if there is value for us 13:28:03 ok 13:28:06 it's that thin line we were discussion last week and also in the TSC call 13:28:42 meanwhile, my motion still needs a second in order to start the actual voting 13:28:58 or suggestions to sharping the wording 13:30:35 anything else on this topic? 13:30:46 wording looks ok from what i remember 13:31:39 3. Draft press announcement about 5.10 release and 4.4 self-maintenance - jan 13:31:55 i won this task during the TSC call 13:32:18 didn't have time to look into it yet, though 13:32:53 anything else for AIs? 13:33:10 3 13:33:12 2 13:33:14 1 13:33:17 #topic Kernel maintenance updates 13:33:38 reviewed more 5.10.94 patches 13:34:03 I reivewed 5.10.96. 13:34:04 There was 8 new CVEs this week. also, there were tons of security fix for 4.X series. 13:37:47 I'll more look into security fix for 4.4.y from next week. 13:37:52 maybe, I'll send a patch to cip-dev mailing list if I can backport it. 13:38:25 what will be our criteria to look at backport candidates? 13:38:34 CVE attached? Or more? 13:38:54 I also take a look. 13:39:59 For CVE, if it is related to our reference board, try backport. 13:41:22 and how will we track that? our wiki is not tracking 4.9 and 4.14, only 4.19 regarding commits, thus backport candidates 13:41:47 btw, https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html no longer lists 4.4 - was something sent already? 13:42:37 I think other backports will be the same. 13:42:54 Certainly we need a mechanism to manage patches for 4.4.y. 13:43:05 4.4.302 has been released. 13:43:19 ah, ok 13:43:38 it has EOL mark. 13:43:46 just today 13:43:50 yes 13:44:10 oh, Greg mentioned us 13:44:17 we have the ball in our field 13:44:46 because of "is considering" - we are decided to 13:46:06 I think we should probably move forward with Pavel's proposal soon then, not yet referring to the ongoing 4.4.y continuation thing 13:46:24 that could still be announced later on top, once we have the ok 13:47:31 I can follow up on Pavel's post to cip-dev, suggesting that 13:48:01 How often will CIP add to their own version of 4.4.y? 13:48:14 And will there be "releases"? 13:48:23 4.4.303 etc.? 13:51:34 good questions 13:52:08 it would probably make sense and should be easy to implement tagging releases along the CIP ones 13:52:55 I do not know the release of releases now. if the patch is accumulated, it will be release... 13:56:55 I think this would be about tagging the baseline of 4.4.30X-cip with 4.4.30X, like before 13:57:12 but only in our continuation branch 13:57:37 anyway, we need the general OK to publish and annouce the branch at all first 13:57:49 other topic here? 13:57:53 topics 13:59:17 3 13:59:18 2 13:59:21 1 13:59:26 #topic Kernel testing 14:00:06 Not much news from me 14:01:42 everything's running smoothly then :) 14:01:45 We can not build 5.10.y/-cip tree yet. 14:01:55 ...except for... 14:02:15 what blocks it? 14:02:36 Not much news from me either 14:02:42 gcc 14:03:03 Oh yes, I did an MR, we just need to update cip-pipeilnes to use it 14:03:04 Sorry 14:03:53 gcc of gitlab's kernel build container is not fit 5.10.y. 14:04:06 NOP 14:06:25 anything else here? 14:07:36 3 14:07:37 2 14:07:40 1 14:07:43 #topic AOB 14:07:56 irc bot: we'll get a new one! 14:08:19 ok nice 14:08:20 likely. Neal dug out a hosting at LF, details to be clarified 14:08:25 great! 14:08:25 nice 14:08:35 also if/how to get the archive migrated 14:09:33 any other business? 14:10:23 3 14:10:26 2 14:10:28 1 14:10:31 #endmeeting