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| jki | hello everyone | 13:00 |
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| jki | pick | 13:00 |
| jki | #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting | 13:00 |
| brlogger` | Meeting started Thu Mar 17 13:00:36 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| brlogger` | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| brlogger` | The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' | 13:00 |
| *** brlogger` changes topic to " (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 13:00 | |
| collab-meetbot | Meeting started Thu Mar 17 13:00:36 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| collab-meetbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| collab-meetbot | The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' | 13:00 |
| jki | fatfingering today... | 13:00 |
| uli | hello | 13:00 |
| masami | hi | 13:01 |
| patersonc[m] | Hey | 13:01 |
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| pave1 | Hi! | 13:02 |
| jki | ok, let's go | 13:05 |
| jki | #topic AI review | 13:05 |
| *** brlogger` changes topic to "AI review (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 13:05 | |
| jki | 1. Resolve/filter irrelevant failures of KernelCI for 4.4-cip - patersonc & alicefm | 13:06 |
| jki | I assume no update here, right? | 13:07 |
| patersonc[m] | Nope | 13:08 |
| jki | ok | 13:08 |
| jki | any other AI I missed? | 13:08 |
| jki | 3 | 13:09 |
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| jki | #topic Kernel maintenance updates | 13:09 |
| *** brlogger` changes topic to "Kernel maintenance updates (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 13:10 | |
| pave1 | I was reviewing patches for 5.10.105, 106, 107. | 13:10 |
| uli | reviewed 5.10.104 and 106 | 13:10 |
| masami | This week reported 11 new CVEs and 5 updated CVE. | 13:10 |
| masami | Xen project published 7 CVEs this week. | 13:10 |
| masami | Spectre-BHB patches have been backportinting to 4.x series. | 13:10 |
| pave1 | I am working on 4.4.X branch. -cip is now uptodate with 4.9.299. | 13:11 |
| jki | great | 13:13 |
| jki | anything to discuss here about releasing that? | 13:13 |
| pave1 | I'd preffer to get replies to the email :-). | 13:14 |
| jki | fine, that's why I'm asking :) | 13:15 |
| jki | anything else for this topic? | 13:15 |
| jki | 3 | 13:16 |
| jki | 2 | 13:16 |
| jki | 1 | 13:16 |
| jki | #topic Kernel testing | 13:16 |
| *** brlogger` changes topic to "Kernel testing (Meeting topic: CIP IRC weekly meeting)" | 13:16 | |
| patersonc[m] | I don't have any updates this week | 13:16 |
| pave1 | I have pushed -st tree to https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/cip/linux-cip.git/log/?h=linux-4.4.y-st . | 13:17 |
| pave1 | Could it get same testing we used to do for linux-4.4.y? | 13:17 |
| pave1 | (linux-4.4.y testing can now be stopped/disabled. It is unlikely to see new activity.) | 13:18 |
| patersonc[m] | Will look into it. I'm assuming we're not adding our own gitlab-ci.yaml file? | 13:18 |
| pave1 | This is supposed to be clove to vanilla. I could add yaml but would preffer not to. | 13:19 |
| pave1 | close | 13:19 |
| patersonc[m] | Sure | 13:20 |
| jki | good, anything else? | 13:21 |
| pave1 | Thank you! | 13:21 |
| masami | I found conflict lines in this patch https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/cip/linux-cip.git/commit/?h=linux-4.4.y-st&id=46c33101debfc4226d08933659660a8835b6a0e0 | 13:21 |
| pave1 | Thanks. I'm getting build errors I'll need to investigate. This is one of them. | 13:22 |
| jki | maybe install some auto-checker for such forgotten resolutions somewhere? | 13:23 |
| masami | pavel: I see. thanks. | 13:23 |
| pave1 | jki: Yes, more automation is possible. | 13:24 |
| jki | further topics here? | 13:25 |
| jki | 3 | 13:25 |
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| jki | #topic AOB | 13:25 |
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| jki | do we have specific topics to raise during the extended TSC meeting? | 13:26 |
| jki | are we still on track or do we see growing problems? | 13:26 |
| jki | what's our view on RISC-V (will be a topic there as you heard)? | 13:27 |
| pave1 | We may find out that 4.4-rt is even more fun than 4.4.y, but lets see. | 13:27 |
| jki | did you try it already and have some example(s)? | 13:28 |
| pave1 | I believe risc-v is going to be important rather soon, and we should start working with it. | 13:28 |
| pave1 | No time for -rt, yet. Enough fun with 4.4.y for now. But -rt is subtle and we are doing very little testing. | 13:29 |
| jki | understood | 13:29 |
| jki | suggestions how to improve? | 13:29 |
| pave1 | Not at the moment. | 13:32 |
| jki | regarding RISC-V: what would be preconditions for us to pick this topic up? | 13:33 |
| jki | one of my concerns is still the missing official Debian support | 13:33 |
| jki | but we can work around that for the kernel, to some degree I suppose, right? | 13:34 |
| pave1 | I guess first step would be getting risc-v/qemu to work, and starting 5.10.X testing with that. | 13:34 |
| pave1 | I don't think we should do 4.4/4.19 risc-v. | 13:35 |
| jki | nope, surely not | 13:35 |
| pave1 | I would not mind risc-v board to play with if they are cheap enough for that. | 13:35 |
| jki | I hope Renesas will help out here ;) | 13:36 |
| jki | but QEMU is a good start in any case | 13:36 |
| pave1 | Debian is likely quite conservative with marking things "official", so I'd expect unofficial support to work well enough. | 13:36 |
| patersonc[m] | I'm sure Renesas will provide boards to the CIP maintainers, but may not be for a couple of months, then export control... | 13:36 |
| jki | we are using Debian on RISC-V for a while | 13:36 |
| jki | problem is that never have stable versions | 13:37 |
| pave1 | I mean.. likely there are problems on complex stuff like Firefox, but we are really using basic stuff. | 13:37 |
| jki | need to use snapshots of days that worked | 13:37 |
| jki | but snapshot.debian.org is not a good source for CI (throttling...) | 13:38 |
| pave1 | Yes, that may be problematic. But it is other level than kernel. | 13:38 |
| pave1 | patersonc: If Renesas boards take months before being available, we may consider some easy-to-get devel board, too. | 13:39 |
| patersonc[m] | Agreed | 13:40 |
| pave1 | I know there are some that are a bit expensive ($2000 IIRC), but something like beagleV could be available soon and not that pricey. | 13:40 |
| jki | there is no easy-to-get right now - IIRC | 13:40 |
| jki | better start with QEMU, that will be one target anyway | 13:41 |
| pave1 | I believe these are available: https://www.sifive.com/boards/hifive-unmatched (but expensive). | 13:41 |
| jki | "Stock: Not Available" | 13:42 |
| pave1 | Ok, let me ask around. | 13:43 |
| jki | The BeagleV was a hope - for a while... | 13:43 |
| jki | ok... | 13:44 |
| jki | anything else, for ext-TSC or in general? | 13:44 |
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| jki | #endmeeting | 13:46 |
| brlogger` | Meeting ended Thu Mar 17 13:46:06 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:46 |
| brlogger` | Minutes: https://irclogs.baserock.org/meetings/cip/2022/03/cip.2022-03-17-13.00.html | 13:46 |
| brlogger` | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.baserock.org/meetings/cip/2022/03/cip.2022-03-17-13.00.txt | 13:46 |
| brlogger` | Log: https://irclogs.baserock.org/meetings/cip/2022/03/cip.2022-03-17-13.00.log.html | 13:46 |
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| collab-meetbot | Meeting ended Thu Mar 17 13:46:06 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:46 |
| collab-meetbot | Minutes: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2022/03/cip.2022-03-17-13.00.html | 13:46 |
| collab-meetbot | Minutes (text): http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2022/03/cip.2022-03-17-13.00.txt | 13:46 |
| collab-meetbot | Log: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/cip/2022/03/cip.2022-03-17-13.00.log.html | 13:46 |
| pave1 | Thank you! | 13:46 |
| jki | thank you all! | 13:46 |
| uli | thanks | 13:46 |
| patersonc[m] | jki: What happened to beagleV? | 13:46 |
| masami | thank you | 13:46 |
| jki | there were some disputes about its direction and openess IIUC | 13:46 |
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| patersonc[m] | Okay | 13:51 |
| jki | a pity... | 13:52 |
| jki | still waiting for raspi-v... | 13:52 |
| patersonc[m] | :) | 13:53 |
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| arnd | patersonc[m]: beagleV turned into https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/11/27/visionfive-v1-risc-v-linux-sbc-resurrects-beaglev-single-board-computer/ | 14:33 |
| patersonc[m] | arnd: Thanks | 14:38 |
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