IRC logs for #cip for Thursday, 2021-12-23

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alicef#startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting13:00
brloggerMeeting started Thu Dec 23 13:00:06 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alicef. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
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alicefhello everyone!13:00
iwamatsuhi13:00
patersonc[m]Hello13:00
masamihi13:01
alicefok I think we are everyone13:04
aliceflet's get started13:04
alicef#topic AI review13:04
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alicef1. Combine root filesystem with kselftest binary (finishing) - alicef13:05
alicefI'm just now re writing the cover letter for the isar-cip-core patch. hope to close this action in this week.13:06
alicef2. Propose tweet on KernelCI-CIP collaboration progress - alicef13:06
alicefnot worked on this yet13:06
alicefpatersonc[m]: do you have any suggestion on this topic ?13:07
patersonc[m]Was there a specific feature/topic?13:07
patersonc[m]I think CIP retweeted KernelCI recently13:07
alicefoh nice :)13:07
alicefmy suggestion was to tweet at least about the domain cip.kernelci.org and kernelci.cip.org13:08
alicefand maybe also about the kernelci cip dashboard with the work we are doing13:08
patersonc[m]okay13:09
alicefhttps://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/1113:09
patersonc[m]https://twitter.com/cip_project/status/145887392032981401813:09
alicef:)13:09
alicefany other suggestion on this ?13:10
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alicef3. Clarify with KernelCI whether CIP maintainers can get accounts - alicef13:11
alicefI talked a bit yesterday at the TSC. KernelCI will try to enable it on staging and than depending on the traffic deciding further actions. still not sure about the time schedule that need to take for enabling it.13:12
alicefiwamatsu: can you give me the repositories and branches where this need to be enabled ?13:13
alicefsomething like for-kernelci13:14
iwamatsuOK, I and Pavel will create.13:15
alicefthanks, just send a mail to me with it when you have time :)13:15
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alicef#topic Kernel maintenance updates13:17
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patersonc[m]I'm sorry guys but I'm going to have to go - the office is shutting early :P13:17
patersonc[m]Have a good Christmas etc.13:17
iwamatsuwe need to decide which gcc to support for each kernel.13:17
masamiThis week reported 12 new CVEs. Some of them aren't fixed yet.13:17
alicefpatersonc[m]: i see, merry christmas13:17
iwamatsupatersonc: Happy holiday and new year.13:18
masamipatersonc[m]: happy holidays!13:18
alicefiwamatsu: oh yes I read the mail about gcc, currently kernelci is using gcc 10 afair13:18
iwamatsu4.19.y and 5.10.y can be matched to cip-core (Debian), but 4.4.y will probably be Debian 8 (Jessie) 's gcc.13:19
alicefoh because of debian compatibility, i see13:19
alicefwhat gcc is using cip-core ?13:20
iwamatsumaybe current cip-core is using gcc-813:21
iwamatsuthis based on debian 10.13:21
iwamatsucurrent developing cip-core is using gcc-10.13:21
iwamatsuWe are now using one container and gcc from kernel.org, so we need each container.13:22
iwamatsuBuilding this is not that difficult.13:22
alicefi see13:23
iwamatsuand Debian 8's gcc is gcc-4.913:23
alicefwow13:23
alicefso we will freeze a gcc version for each cip version?13:25
alicefminor version13:25
alicefs/minor/major/13:26
aliceflike 5.10 will have a gcc version and 4.4 will have a different one13:26
iwamatsuprobably, yes.13:26
alicefmaybe just adding revision updates to the freezed gcc version13:27
alicefthat should not break compability i hope13:28
alicefiwamatsu: you will work on this ?13:28
iwamatsuI dont have a plan now, but I can do this13:29
iwamatsu(maybe I will work with patersonc)13:29
alicefsure, thanks :)13:30
iwamatsuSo, I don't make any conclusions now, but I think it's better to decide at IRC meeting that will be held before the next TSC.13:30
alicefright, i agree13:30
alicefbut still nice to know the current situation, thanks13:31
alicefmasami: thanks for the report on the CVE13:31
alicefanything you want to add ?13:31
iwamatsuPerhaps the Jessie-based environment is difficult. This is old so he needs to build a cross environment.....13:31
masamialicef: no problems.13:31
iwamatsuBTW, I am reviewing 5.10.88.13:32
alicefI see, from KernelCI point there should no problem to build with gcc 8 and gcc 10. no idea about gcc-4.9 that's antiquate13:32
iwamatsuhehe13:33
alicefcurrently we are building cip 4.4 also with gcc 10. I'm surprised it works13:33
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pav31hi!13:34
alicefpav31: hi13:34
iwamatsuhi, Pavel.13:34
pav31I was reviewing 5.10.88 and renesas patches.13:34
masamihi!13:34
alicefwe are talking about cip-core using different gcc versions13:34
pav31And .... sorry for being late.13:35
alicefemh cip kernel been build on different gcc versions13:35
alicefpav31: no problem :)13:35
iwamatsusome years ago, I created docker file for Jessie cross compile environment.13:36
iwamatsuhttps://github.com/iwamatsu/docker-jessie-cross-toolchain13:36
pav31Yes. 5.10.87 or so will break gcc 8 plugins in our config.13:36
alicefanything else to add ?13:39
alicefpav31: will break gcc_plugins like been forcibly disabled ?13:40
pav31I'm not sure I understand.13:41
pav31We see broken builds on 5.10.88.13:42
alicefoh yes i see13:42
pav31Likely we could fix it with changes to config or to build environment.13:42
iwamatsuCONFIG_GCC_PLUGINS13:43
pav31Yes, that one.13:44
pav31Could we simply disable it for now?13:44
iwamatsuprobably yes. but we need to confirm.13:45
pav31Do we have separate configs for cip and stable?13:46
iwamatsucurrent cip-kernel-config's config does not have CONFIG_GCC_PLUGINS.13:47
alicefi see, so that is disabled by default ?13:48
iwamatsupav31: some builds use defconfg in kernel.13:49
pav31Ay. Aha....13:50
iwamatsuhttps://gitlab.com/cip-project/cip-kernel/linux-cip/-/jobs/191126734313:51
iwamatsuhttps://gitlab.com/cip-project/cip-kernel/linux-cip/-/jobs/1911267343#L91113:52
alicefwe have something to decide here? or can we move on and move back this to the mailing list ?13:52
iwamatsuThis uses the config of cip-kernel-config, but I'm getting an error.13:53
iwamatsuA little resea13:53
iwamatsuresearch is needed.13:53
pav31So probably better discussed on the list.13:55
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alicefyes, thanks13:55
alicefcan we go on ?13:55
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alicef#topic Kernel testing13:56
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iwamatsuaha, some config included CONFIG_HAVE_GCC_PLUGINS.13:56
iwamatsuThis is the cause.13:56
alicefoh i see, that could cause the problem even without config_gcc_Plugins13:57
alicefabout kernel testing we already discussed this. iwamatsu will send me the list of repo and branch that are for development and each commit will be tested by kernelci13:58
alicefI have nothing more to add, at now13:58
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alicef#topic AOB13:59
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alicefvacations and lockdowns?13:59
alicefany vacation schedule ?13:59
pav31Heh. Our government decided covid is not dangerous...14:00
pav31So likely extended lockdown in january.14:00
alicefi see. we will have a meeting also 30 december ?14:00
iwamatsuPerhaps Japanese will be on vacation next week and next next week.14:01
pav31I believe we decided not to at the last meeting.14:01
alicefright, so next meeting will be 6 january14:01
alicef2022!...14:02
iwamatsus/next next/week after next/14:02
alicefis ok for 6 january ? or is better to move it later ?14:02
masami6th is ok for me14:03
pav316 is ok.14:03
iwamatsume too.14:03
alicefis ok also for me14:03
alicefhave a nice new year!14:03
alicefand let's close the meeting for today14:04
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alicef#endmeeting14:04
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alicefthanks everyone14:04
pav31Happy holidays and stay safe...14:04
masamihappy holidays ! see you next year.14:05
iwamatsuthank you and happy holidays.14:05
alicefp.s. we had a similar problem with gcc_plugins also on gentoo but a bit different14:05
alicefrecently with gcc1114:05
alicefhappy holidays14:05
alicefsee you on 6 January14:06
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