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patersonc | Hello mablabs | 15:57 |
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mablabs | Hello! I joined this IRC as recommended by the CIP talk given at the ELC, as getting involved | 15:58 |
patersonc | Fantastic | 15:59 |
patersonc | Is there anything specifically you're interested in? Or anything you'd like to know more about? | 15:59 |
mablabs | Would like to understand the best way to dive in to make any contributions, even if it's documentation or similar grunt work. I have experience in BSP customization, Linux drivers, u-boot, etc. | 16:01 |
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patersonc | Sounds great. I suggest you ping an email to the cip-dev mailing list (https://lists.cip-project.org/g/cip-dev) to say hi. You'll reach a larger audience | 16:02 |
patersonc | Then I guess pick an area. We do a lot of code reviews on the LTS Kernels for each stable-rc release. We are gradually ramping up our automated testing. We are working on our "cip-core" debian-based reference filesystem. SW updates, Security | 16:04 |
patersonc | Lots to get involved in :) | 16:04 |
patersonc | There are also patches submited to cip-dev from various sources that need reviewing before we add them into the SLTS kernel(s) | 16:06 |
patersonc | These are maininly for adding new platform support (as the usual bug/security fixes go into the stable branches and CIP takes them from there) | 16:06 |
mablabs | Cool. Sounds exciting. Are there an overarching list of requirements that define the acceptance criteria? | 16:08 |
patersonc | Somewhere on the wiki | 16:08 |
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patersonc | mablabs: https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/cipkernelmaintenance | 16:08 |
mablabs | Reviewing platform support sounds appealing | 16:10 |
patersonc | Great. Patches aren't too frequent though. | 16:12 |
patersonc | We have a patchwork site, but tbh I'm not sure how up to date it is: https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/cip-dev/list/ | 16:12 |
mablabs | Is the iWave RZ/G1M Qseven Development Kit necessary for meaningful development? It's a bit pricey, but if there's no way around it for testing, then I might be able to justify the expense. | 16:25 |
patersonc | It's just one of the supported reference platforms | 16:27 |
patersonc | We also support these: https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/ciptesting/cipreferencehardware | 16:27 |
patersonc | The BeagleBone black being fairly affordable | 16:27 |
patersonc | We also have remote testing infrastructure containing all of the reference platforms | 16:28 |
mablabs | Cool, I have a DE1-SoC laying around from previous work. The only difference between that and the Nano are the peripherals. | 16:36 |
mablabs | Also, is there some history as to why Deby was used instead of Yocto? | 16:37 |
patersonc | Mainly because Yocto doesn't (or didn't at the time) have any form of LTS, where as Debian ELTS supports up to 6 years | 16:40 |
mablabs | Yeah, this link is actually a pretty good overview: https://www.yoctoproject.org/learn-items/deby-reproducible-and-maintainable-embedded-linux-environment-with-poky/ | 16:40 |
patersonc | yea | 16:41 |
patersonc | CIP has two 'profiles' for it's reference filesystem. 'tiny' which is based on Deby, and 'generic' which is based on ISAR | 16:42 |
patersonc | ISAR is another approach to build Debian based OS's leveraging bitbake etc. | 16:43 |
tpollard | is the tiny from deby meant as a similar to poky tiny? | 16:45 |
patersonc | No, it's just a small selection of packages that CIP aims to support long term. The bare essentials | 16:46 |
patersonc | The image is about 2MB I think | 16:46 |
mablabs | This issue also looks appealing and is inline with my experience: https://gitlab.com/cip-project/cip-sw-updates/cip-sw-updates-tasks/-/issues/8 | 16:48 |
mablabs | Do I just send an email to the mailing list? | 16:48 |
mablabs | To get started | 16:48 |
patersonc | Sure. I'd recommend it. Just in case plans have changed or in case someone has already started to look into it. Plus everyone would love to say hi etc. :) | 16:49 |
tpollard | patersonc: the last time I checked the rootfs of pony tiny was 3MB, so not far off :) | 16:53 |
tpollard | s/pony/poky | 16:53 |
tpollard | although not as small as it's name would suggest | 16:54 |
patersonc | hehe | 16:54 |
patersonc | The poky FS I normally use is something like 180MB | 16:54 |
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dineshk[m] | Frequent buffering during yoshi talk | 20:58 |
patersonc | I had a lot of audio issues for both of them :) | 20:58 |
dineshk[m] | Same here | 21:58 |
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