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| donbrown | toscalix: diagram created and emailed - please let me know your feedback | 03:17 |
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| patersonc | Mornin everyone | 08:49 |
| patersonc | What version of u-boot is currently being used with the BBB? | 08:51 |
| toscalix | rajm: ? | 09:04 |
| * rajm inspects | 09:05 | |
| rajm | patersonc I get U-Boot SPL 2014.04-00014-g47880f5 | 09:10 |
| patersonc | rajm: Thanks. Is this what came with the board? Or have you updated? | 09:41 |
| rajm | it came with the board | 09:42 |
| patersonc | Okay. Is this the same case for everyone using BBB? Should everyone be making sure we're using the same version for the CIP testing/verification? | 09:44 |
| rajm | good question - donbrown ? | 09:48 |
| toscalix | patersonc: since we will have different platforms for testing purposes, we will need to separate what is "SLTS" and what is is not but agreed for testing the platform | 09:50 |
| toscalix | sorry, testing with the platfomr | 09:50 |
| toscalix | platform | 09:50 |
| toscalix | I assume renesas will use a different U-Boot version | 09:51 |
| toscalix | we will need to agree on a version to support but I see us using others for testing on the platform. Otherwise we will need to assume a "one system fits all platforms" which is not realistic today | 09:53 |
| patersonc | I agree, and this is why I'm starting the conversation. | 09:53 |
| patersonc | Renesas are indeed using a different version, I'm trying to decide if we should try and upstream support for our board, or just continue using our version. | 09:54 |
| patersonc | I suspect that each vendor will likely just want to use their own (tested) version of u-boot. | 09:54 |
| patersonc | Upstream support in u-boot seems limited. | 09:54 |
| toscalix | It would make our life easier if it is upstreammed. But we need to assume the limitations | 09:55 |
| toscalix | For the kernel we have defined Black&white policies, but for other components the situation is not that easy | 09:56 |
| toscalix | we will need to "adapt" knowing that "upstream first" is a strong policy | 09:56 |
| patersonc | Indeed | 09:57 |
| patersonc | Taking the u-boot case for an example, it seems that the peer-review process isn't as strong as the Kernel, and often patches are accepted that may brake support for legacy devices | 09:58 |
| patersonc | (So I've been told) | 09:58 |
| toscalix | that is my understanding | 09:59 |
| toscalix | some projects maintain a u-boot version with limited functionality as the minimum common denominator | 09:59 |
| patersonc | So perhaps CIP could pick a particular version of u-boot (per CIP Kernel version?), and use that for all of their testing/verification on the project's reference platforms? | 10:01 |
| toscalix | that would be ideal | 10:01 |
| toscalix | if we can do that.... | 10:01 |
| toscalix | right now we have two platforms BBB and renesas, right? If we can use one for both....great | 10:02 |
| patersonc | It would make the most sense to me, but getting to that common version could be difficult. | 10:02 |
| toscalix | agree | 10:02 |
| patersonc | I think the version on the Renesas board is 2013.01.01 at the moment | 10:03 |
| toscalix | This is the kind of topic I would like to see in the cip-dev ML I need to investigate a little both versions and the state of them upstream | 10:05 |
| toscalix | I would also like to hear the consumers (Siemens, Toshiba and Hitachi) | 10:05 |
| toscalix | and also U-Boot maintainers | 10:05 |
| patersonc | Yep. I'll put some comments into an email on cip-dev. Perhaps we can also discuss in next week's call? | 10:07 |
| toscalix | agree | 10:16 |
| toscalix | I will answer your mail with some links | 10:35 |
| patersonc | Thanks | 10:36 |
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| patersonc | toscalix: Hopefully my ramblings on cip-dev make some sort of sense! | 12:15 |
| toscalix | it does | 13:17 |
| toscalix | patersonc: I need to think a little my answer. I will do it tomorrow | 14:16 |
| patersonc | toscalix: No rush. Thanks! | 14:16 |
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