IRC logs for #buildstream for Tuesday, 2017-12-12

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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: issue #169 ("Documentation improvements") changed state ("opened") https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/issues/16911:29
ltunexus, can you link to the actual docs from the issue? I always find that helpful.11:33
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (master->master: WIP: Documentation improvements) #183 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18311:34
nexusltu: sure no problem11:35
tlaterssam2: I pushed my docker image and some small changes to the x86image plugin in preparation for my tutorial for using that plugin; would you mind having a look at those?11:35
ssam2sure, I can review11:36
ssam2would be useful to see the actual image build too, for context11:36
tlaterRight, I'll link you to my repo11:36
tlaterssam2: https://gitlab.com/tlater/image-test11:37
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* tlater wonders if we should supply two alpine base images, one with glibc and one with musl... Though perhaps that doesn't matter too much.12:23
ssam2do alpine provide glibc based images ?12:24
tlaterThere are definitely spin-off images on dockerhub, not sure if they are official12:27
tlaterNo, doesn't look like there are official images, so probably not a great idea12:29
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (get_workspace_path->master: Implement _get_workspace_path) #184 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18413:31
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ssam2reminder that the buildstream team meeting is about to start in #buildstream-meetings14:01
ltuah, thanks ssam2 !14:01
ssam2all welcome to join14:02
ssam2logs will be posted afterwards to the buildstream-list mailing list14:02
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juergbimeeting imminent in #buildstream-meetings14:03
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adds68ssam2, i've pushed those fixes to the Buildstream-docker repo, build are still ongoing mind14:44
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tlaterAck, my bouncer went down14:51
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nexus /o\14:55
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (debuggable->master: WIP: Make plugins debuggable with pdb etc.) #185 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18515:00
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tlaterlaurenceurhegyi: You're back!15:19
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nexus\o/15:20
ltuwhat an inconvenient time to have a massive network outage15:20
nexusindeed15:20
tlaterltu: We finished the meeting without you, ssam2 attempted to #endmeeting but it seems that you have to do so15:23
ltuyeah, thanks15:24
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tlaterHuh, my alter ego joined15:27
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (fix-git-plugin-nameerror->master: plugins/sources/git.py: Fix potential NameError) #186 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18615:55
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (fix-git-plugin-nameerror->master: plugins/sources/git.py: Fix potential NameError) #186 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18616:01
paulsherwoodfrom the leeting... 15:22 < ltu> #action sstriker to post an initial write up of how to approach distributed builds to the mailing list16:02
paulsherwoodmeeting16:02
paulsherwoodwhat do we mean by 'distributed builds' here?16:02
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (get_workspace_path->master: Implement _get_workspace_path) #184 changed state ("closed"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18416:07
ssam2paulsherwood, probably best to wait for the email; i had an idea in my head of what we were talking about but it turned out to be wrong16:07
paulsherwoodok :)16:07
ssam2the general idea though is making things build faster by adding more machines16:07
paulsherwoodack. my only point is that the 'efficiency' gained by spreading the workload may not be worth the effort and complexity. ybd's approach is 'good enough' imo16:08
paulsherwood(ie just launch the whole job at a set of machines that share a cache, accept some duplication)16:09
ssam2yeah, it'd be worth trying that approach with buildstream16:10
paulsherwoodi'm assuming that bst is smart enough to keep checking caches as it proceeds, not just at the beginning16:10
ssam2actually, at the moment it just checks the cache once16:11
paulsherwoodheh. ybd is better then :)16:11
ssam2ah, we should switch16:11
paulsherwoodno, just fix bst :)16:11
ssam2it would require a bit of rework ... but might be better anyway16:12
ssam2as currently it downloads *every* ref that the remote has16:12
ssam2which actually be MBs of data if the cache has lots of artifacts in16:12
ssam2always tradeoffs with bandwidth vs. latency.. for some folk, a single large fetch will be faster than lots of tiny fetches... for other folks, the inverse will be true16:13
paulsherwoodand this also assumes that cache server handles landing artifacts atomically, so if five clients rock up with the same thing, it accepts one and only one16:13
ssam2i'm pretty sure that is handled, although we should test it16:13
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (makedirsfix->master: _pipeline: fix makedirs exception handling) #187 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18716:41
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (optional-yaml-for-source-plugins->master: plugincontext: Let plugins not have YAML defaults) #180 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18016:59
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (project-name->master: project: Export the name as a variable) #182 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18217:03
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (scripterror->master: plugins/.../script.py: fix ElementError ref) #188 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18817:07
bochechacoming back to the conversation from yesterday on a --quiet option, I just discovered the --no-verbose option17:08
bochechait does remove a few lines from the output already17:08
bochechaso would it be better to make this option really turn off buildstream's output? or add a --quiet option?17:09
tlaterWhat was --no-verbose supposed to do? Suppress things marked as 'detail' in messages?17:14
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (cache_workspace_key->master: Cache the workspace key) #189 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18917:22
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (164-minimise-overlaps-by-having-overlaps-raise-exceptions-unless-configured-not-to->master: WIP: Resolve "Minimise overlaps by having overlaps raise exceptions unless configured not to") #181 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18117:33
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (164-minimise-overlaps-by-having-overlaps-raise-exceptions-unless-configured-not-to->master: Resolve "Minimise overlaps by having overlaps raise exceptions unless configured not to") #181 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18117:48
ssam2bochecha, --no-verbose is the default already17:51
ssam2it just turns off --verbose17:51
bochechahuh17:51
ssam2click by default adds --no- variants for each flag option17:51
bochechaI get less output with --no-verbose than with no option17:51
ssam2weird, ok17:51
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bochechafor example, status messages "Running command" with the command being run doesn't appear with --no-verbose17:52
ssam2i really can't see how this happens, from the code17:52
ssam2unless you have verbosity enabled in your user config ?17:52
bochechano user config here17:53
ssam2but context.log_verbose is a boolean17:54
ssam2i don't see how it could have 3 states17:54
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bochechaseems I have the verbose output by default :-/17:57
bochechabut nothing in my userconfig or project config specifies this17:57
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (fix-git-plugin-nameerror->master: plugins/sources/git.py: Fix potential NameError) #186 changed state ("closed"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18619:41
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (makedirsfix->master: _pipeline: fix makedirs exception handling) #187 changed state ("closed"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18719:53
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (jjardon/out-of-tree->master: WIP: buildstream/plugins/elements/autotools.yaml: Make builds out of tree by default) #175 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/17520:08
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: issue #170 ("[Feature Request] Support rpm deployment") changed state ("opened") https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/issues/17020:12
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (jjardon/out-of-tree->master: WIP: buildstream/plugins/elements/autotools.yaml: Make builds out of tree by default) #175 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/17520:13
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (jjardon/out-of-tree->master: WIP: buildstream/plugins/elements/autotools.yaml: Make builds out of tree by default) #175 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/17520:23
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (jjardon/out-of-tree->master: WIP: buildstream/plugins/elements/autotools.yaml: Make builds out of tree by default) #175 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/17520:33
gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (optional-yaml-for-source-plugins->master: plugincontext: Let plugins not have YAML defaults) #180 changed state ("closed"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18020:37
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jjardon[m]Hi, Trying to build I see this message in when I execute my configure-commands:20:43
jjardon[m]"Message contains 6 additional lines"20:43
jjardon[m]How can I tell bst to show me the complete output?20:43
jjardon[m]--verbose doesnt seem to work20:43
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (project-name->master: project: Export the name as a variable) #182 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/18221:21
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (quiet-output->master: frontend/main: Add a --quiet option) #190 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/19022:36
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gitlab-br-botbuildstream: merge request (quiet-output->master: frontend/main: Add a --quiet option) #190 changed state ("opened"): https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/merge_requests/19023:18
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