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| palasso | bochecha: I checked the chatlog and noticed your discussion. Do you know project atomic? I don't know exactly what you're trying to do but it seemed to me close to that | 14:50 |
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| bochecha | palasso: I know atomic, and IIUC it's more about the OS | 14:50 |
| bochecha | what I'm doing is closer to what Flatpak does | 14:50 |
| palasso | For server applications? | 14:51 |
| bochecha | yes | 14:51 |
| palasso | So I don't know much about atomic but I think it handles both "system containers" and OCI containers. The first is for updating stuff that runs before a container runs and the second is the standard format. But it's using ostree for the update mechanism I believe. | 14:52 |
| palasso | Also it's using bubblewrap to run the containers | 14:53 |
| bochecha | afaik ostree is used for the system | 14:54 |
| bochecha | whereas for applications it relies on docker or oci, but those don't use ostree themselves | 14:54 |
| palasso | Applications are using the OCI container format. No docker code is run though. Maybe it's not using ostree yet for updates, not sure. | 14:55 |
| bochecha | it's using ostree for updates... of the OS :) | 14:55 |
| palasso | Yeah, I don't remember if it's using ostree for updates of the applications as well | 14:56 |
| palasso | I'll go and check it out | 14:56 |
| palasso | bochecha: yeah it's just for the OS | 15:13 |
| bochecha | that's what I thought | 15:18 |
| bochecha | Atomic is very interesting, though | 15:18 |
| bochecha | Fedora is looking into it as well, so I guess I'll see that coming on my workstation soon :) | 15:18 |
| bochecha | ostree is such an amazing thing, lots of stuff are using it (flatpak, atomic, buildstream, ... and my little experiment :P) | 15:21 |
| palasso | Yeah and Endless OS | 15:23 |
| palasso | https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/ | 15:24 |
| palasso | That's the version of fedora that uses ostree ^ | 15:24 |
| palasso | I think it's the successor to the "fedora cloud" edition | 15:25 |
| bochecha | it is | 15:25 |
| bochecha | but the Fedora Workstation folks are looking into making an "Atomic Workstation" | 15:25 |
| bochecha | should be a tech preview for Fedora 27, and it might become the default eventually | 15:26 |
| bochecha | and yes, Endless as well, how could I forget them :) | 15:26 |
| palasso | Yeah they already have some images | 15:28 |
| palasso | Actually they've had some test images for about a year. I remember a talk in August 2016 someone gave on running fedora on the desktop with just ostree and flatpak | 15:29 |
| palasso | There are some images here: https://pagure.io/workstation-ostree-config | 15:31 |
| bochecha | yup | 15:33 |
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