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waltminer | AlisonChaiken No Xilinx, but we were never Renesas only. Intel Minnowboard and Upsquare, TI Vayu, Raspberry Pi and Dragonboard available. | 00:35 |
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waltminer | https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro/release-notes#latest_stable_release | 00:36 |
AlisonChaiken | Thanks, waltminer, I must have looked at the wrong web page. | 00:40 |
waltminer | Where did you look? I'm always trying to fix/scrub obsolete references? | 00:41 |
AlisonChaiken | Not sure at this point, sorry. | 01:47 |
AlisonChaiken | Is AGL still running aktualizr? It hasn't been mentioned recently in release notes. | 01:49 |
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leon-anavi | hi | 09:08 |
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dm7h | Hi, i'm currently evaluating SMACK vs TOMOYO for an embedded linux project .. any specific reasons why AGL uses SMACK and not TOMOYO? | 09:21 |
dm7h | On paper TOMOYO kinda seems better suited and well-featured to me (so far) .. but in comparison to SMACK i can't find any projects actively using it x) | 09:24 |
jobol | dm7h, we came from tizen that uses SMACK | 09:25 |
dm7h | oh, so it's mostly "historical reasons"? | 09:25 |
jobol | dm7h I'm interested by some result of the evaluation you do | 09:25 |
dm7h | It's a bit early to say, but on of the bigger downsides of SMACK seems to be that it doesn't have a "learn mode" (as far as i can see) | 09:29 |
dm7h | one* | 09:29 |
jobol | there is one "learn mode" possible. Its name is "Bringup Mode". But it is perhaps different of what you expect. | 09:31 |
dm7h | and then there is a list of stuff that i have investigate further: relies havily on xattr's (might be a problem with NFS root or similar), i read about MASSIVELY decreasid IO throuput with SMACK, but have to check , it may or may not require modification of existing binaries (in comparison to TOMOYO) .. and the TOMOYO site says that it doesn't have "busybox support" (whatever that means in detail) (: | 09:32 |
dm7h | oh, interesting | 09:33 |
jobol | it probably means: id -Z, ls -Z, ps -Z | 09:34 |
dm7h | ok, bringup mode looks rather cumbersome (enabling a kernel flag, then creating a policy by hand from the logs) | 09:35 |
* dm7h will investigate further .. let me know if anything specific about SMACK comes to mind | 09:38 | |
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dl9pf | Good morning, good day. Todays AGL meetings: CIAT call in ~30, weekly developer call in ~1:30 . | 11:34 |
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Tartarus | dl9pf: dev call still gotomeeting? | 13:00 |
Tartarus | There's the chimes :) | 13:01 |
leon-anavi | wow, 31 participants in the weekly dev call - is this the new record? :) | 13:17 |
fury | This party is bananas :D | 13:20 |
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