IRC logs for #automotive for Tuesday, 2019-04-02

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waltminerAlisonChaiken No Xilinx, but we were never Renesas only.  Intel Minnowboard and Upsquare, TI Vayu, Raspberry Pi and Dragonboard available.00:35
waltminerhttps://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro/release-notes#latest_stable_release00:36
AlisonChaikenThanks, waltminer, I must have looked at the wrong web page.00:40
waltminerWhere did you look?  I'm always trying to fix/scrub obsolete references?00:41
AlisonChaikenNot sure at this point, sorry.01:47
AlisonChaikenIs AGL still running aktualizr?   It hasn't been mentioned recently in release notes.01:49
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leon-anavihi09:08
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dm7hHi, i'm currently evaluating SMACK vs TOMOYO for an embedded linux project .. any specific reasons why AGL uses SMACK and not TOMOYO?09:21
dm7hOn paper TOMOYO kinda seems better suited and well-featured to me (so far) .. but in comparison to SMACK i can't find any projects actively using it x)09:24
joboldm7h, we came from tizen that uses SMACK09:25
dm7hoh, so it's mostly "historical reasons"?09:25
joboldm7h I'm interested by some result of the evaluation you do09:25
dm7hIt's a bit early to say, but on of the bigger downsides of SMACK seems to be that it doesn't have a "learn mode" (as far as i can see)09:29
dm7hone*09:29
jobolthere is one "learn mode" possible. Its name is "Bringup Mode". But it is perhaps different of what you expect.09:31
dm7hand then there is a list of stuff that i have investigate further: relies havily on xattr's (might be a problem with NFS root or similar), i read about MASSIVELY decreasid IO throuput with SMACK, but have to check , it may or may not require modification of existing binaries (in comparison to TOMOYO) .. and the TOMOYO site says that it doesn't have "busybox support" (whatever that means in detail) (:09:32
dm7hoh, interesting09:33
jobolit probably means: id -Z, ls -Z, ps -Z09:34
dm7hok, bringup mode looks rather cumbersome (enabling a kernel flag, then creating a policy by hand from the logs)09:35
* dm7h will investigate further .. let me know if anything specific about SMACK comes to mind09:38
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dl9pfGood morning, good day. Todays AGL meetings: CIAT call in ~30, weekly developer call in ~1:30 .11:34
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Tartarusdl9pf: dev call still gotomeeting?13:00
TartarusThere's the chimes :)13:01
leon-anaviwow, 31 participants in the weekly dev call - is this the new record? :)13:17
furyThis party is bananas :D13:20
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